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Topic: Spot the deliberate mistake
Posted By: kedwardsleisure
Subject: Spot the deliberate mistake
Date Posted: 18 April 2013 at 2:37pm
2 x celestions in a Vox AC30.

First person to spot the mistake gets a picture of a slice of my dad's birthday cake



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Posted By: mk2_ginger_biscuit69
Date Posted: 18 April 2013 at 2:47pm
looks like they are wired in series, but for some reason one seems to have been wired to the right driver chassis to 'earth' it, and judging by the size of the tabs, they are wired out of phase [+ / - / - / +]?


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Posted By: all bass
Date Posted: 18 April 2013 at 2:49pm
Lovely wiring technique, how would you call it?   


Posted By: Steve_B
Date Posted: 18 April 2013 at 2:56pm
It should have been at least 2.4mm cable?


Posted By: Elliot Thompson
Date Posted: 18 April 2013 at 3:09pm

Originally posted by kedwardsleisure kedwardsleisure wrote:

2 x celestions in a Vox AC30.

First person to spot the mistake gets a picture of a slice of my dad's birthday cake



The Jumper cable is wired negative (-) to negative (-) instead of positive (+) to negative (-).

Best Regrads,

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Posted By: Joe-Trojan
Date Posted: 18 April 2013 at 3:13pm
nice escher picture!


Posted By: Creative
Date Posted: 18 April 2013 at 3:36pm
they are wired in series and are 16ohms giving 32ohms. The AC30 is a valve amp and would not have a 32ohm tap on the output transformer.


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Posted By: GEB
Date Posted: 18 April 2013 at 4:09pm
Should be wired like this in parallel?
  


Posted By: jbl_man
Date Posted: 18 April 2013 at 4:57pm
Yup,i have seen this sort of thing a few times,especially in 2x12's,are the drivers wired out of phase with each other? and they wonder why the cabinet doesnt sound quite right? Tongue


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Posted By: funkyparrot
Date Posted: 18 April 2013 at 5:13pm
Are they really out of phase? The solder tags are facing one another, therefore top becomes bottom.....Impedance will be too high, and why is one lead grounded to chassis?


Posted By: Creative
Date Posted: 18 April 2013 at 5:22pm
No they are not out of phase but they are wired in series when it should be parallel. Once upon a time it was considered good practice to earth speaker chassis as a safety precaution. However earthing only one is a bit pointless. The only other thing is that the speakers are G12M. If this is an original vintage amp it would have been fitted with Celestion Blue speakers. They are still available. However they cost an arm and a leg and usually get replaced with something cheaper.

Edit. Having had another look at the photo I think both speakers are earthed.


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Posted By: TONY.A.S.S.
Date Posted: 18 April 2013 at 5:34pm
Anyone getting the cake yet?

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Posted By: login4
Date Posted: 18 April 2013 at 6:08pm
its a dead short?

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Posted By: kedwardsleisure
Date Posted: 18 April 2013 at 6:27pm
Creative gets the cake, there's no 32R tap on an AC30. They should either be 2 x 8 ohm drivers in series on the 16 ohm tap or 2 16ohm drivers in parallel across the 8R tap.

Bear with me while I photoshop a slice of cake as dad hasn't cut into it yet

This is the tip of an iceberg of a cock up after the amp visited a local 'vintage amp' specialist. Other faux-pas include two ECC82's where there should be two ECC83's, and an ECC83 where there should be an ECC82. The HT feed resistor should be 22R 10W on this version and it had been replaced with a 220R 6W resistor that had melted all its solder and burnt nearby wiring. The mains transformer tapping was set to 220V instead of 240V and I suspect he must've worked for Behringer as various components had been coated with hot melt glue.

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Posted By: Creative
Date Posted: 18 April 2013 at 6:43pm
But besides that it was ok? I hope my photo of a slice of cake also will have a photo of a dollop of cream on top!


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Posted By: ceharden
Date Posted: 18 April 2013 at 11:23pm
Hot melt glue in a valve amp, D'OH! LOL


Posted By: Dub Specialist
Date Posted: 18 April 2013 at 11:25pm
haha celestion green backs ? 
i used to have a pair my mate give them me years ago in very old cab you know the ones with that alli silver trim stuff Smile used to use them as mids over some 15" scoops only for partys house garden ect

used to drive them with a warrior xs2500w amp not hammer them just enuff to keep up with the scoops ect

to this day still dont know have i never blown them LOL at only around 25w-30w wow

thay were still in perfect working order and i sold them on ebay to some overs seas nut brought them and got a fair bit for them too

amazing LOL




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Posted By: Nitz V1505
Date Posted: 19 April 2013 at 8:20am
The picture did make me chuckle.

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Posted By: Earplug
Date Posted: 19 April 2013 at 11:36am
Originally posted by kedwardsleisure kedwardsleisure wrote:

Creative gets the cake, there's no 32R tap on an AC30. They should either be 2 x 8 ohm drivers in series on the 16 ohm tap or 2 16ohm drivers in parallel across the 8R tap.


Would that matter since they were wired out of phase anyway?  LOL




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Posted By: audiomik
Date Posted: 19 April 2013 at 11:42am
Re: "Would that matter since they were wired out of phase anyway?"

yes!

Mik

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Posted By: Pasi
Date Posted: 19 April 2013 at 11:58am
But they are not on opposite polarity. Left hand connector is the + and if you turn both drivers so that connectors are at 12 o'clock, you can clearly see that + in to left driver, - out from the left driver goes to + on right driver and then - goes out to amp, and the grounding for the right hand driver is connected to this -.




Posted By: Earplug
Date Posted: 19 April 2013 at 1:14pm
Yup, the angle of the speaker does make it look wrong.

I´ve got this waiting for me in the workshop:



The speakers are wired similarly - but have a nice red spot on them for the visually challenged:



Smile




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Posted By: kedwardsleisure
Date Posted: 19 April 2013 at 3:02pm
well I hope the client appreciates the difference in sound quality.



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Posted By: kedwardsleisure
Date Posted: 03 June 2013 at 8:44am
Spot the deliberate mistake(s).

a venerable Cloud VTX1500




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North Staffordshire



Posted By: Centauri
Date Posted: 03 June 2013 at 10:48am
Spade terminals not fully inserted into the board?


Posted By: mini-mad
Date Posted: 03 June 2013 at 10:57am
Originally posted by kedwardsleisure kedwardsleisure wrote:

Spot the deliberate mistake(s).

a venerable Cloud VTX1500



should L1 be a feck off large wire wound resistor?

...AND the relay under specc'd?



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Posted By: studio45
Date Posted: 03 June 2013 at 12:59pm
thats not a resistor, its an inductor. relay in backwards?

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Posted By: Peter Jan
Date Posted: 03 June 2013 at 1:12pm
Shouldn't that be a 10-16A SINGLE contact relay ?

The board says LTX instead of VTX ? Don't know if that's a mistake or not...


Posted By: Earplug
Date Posted: 03 June 2013 at 1:52pm
The inductor has been put in the wrong way around?  LOL

"The board says LTX instead of VTX"

That?




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Posted By: service dept Steve
Date Posted: 03 June 2013 at 2:18pm
What's the prize?
Is it obvious and staring us in the face? or is it something subtle?
It doesn't look like the relay is wrong, Yes it is only 8A but it is double pole so 16A which is correct, 24vdc coil, also correct, resistors and diode looks right, is the relay supposed to be a push away rather than a pull towards, thereby only letting the amp run in fault mode?


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Posted By: Peter Jan
Date Posted: 03 June 2013 at 3:44pm
Originally posted by service dept Steve service dept Steve wrote:


It doesn't look like the relay is wrong, Yes it is only 8A but it is double pole so 16A which is correct

Wouldn't make much difference in making contact, close but still not the full 16A capacity though, no problem if the amp is in normal working order. It's not okay for breaking in a faulty situation (full rail DC for instance).  Relay contacts are never 100% in "sync". The one lagging contact will almost take the full capacity the PSU can deliver into the connected speaker(s), arc itself into a solid contact and take the speaker(s) out with it. The lower the connected impedance, the easier the contacts will arc. DC rail fuses are usually roughly calculated to blow in case of a short or near short, but they hardly ever blow in a case like that. If they do, it's usually because the speakercoils have already burned into total destruction/near short-circuit.
I know it's somewhat common practice to use double contact relays, on first sight it makes sense and nobody will ever notice a thing... till the amp fails.


Posted By: slaz
Date Posted: 03 June 2013 at 3:48pm
Magnetic field - relay and inductor could influence each other ?




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Posted By: kedwardsleisure
Date Posted: 03 June 2013 at 8:40pm
There are 3 seperate faults and they're all to do with the relay.

The prize is my undying admiration   

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North Staffordshire



Posted By: service dept Steve
Date Posted: 03 June 2013 at 8:53pm
48 volt relay, pass on the others though


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Posted By: Peter Jan
Date Posted: 03 June 2013 at 8:54pm
1) as said earlier, must be single contact.
2) is it the wrong relay maybe, as in : NC instead of NO contacts for instance ?
3) should it be another coil.. 12V, 48V or something, not 24V ?


Posted By: kedwardsleisure
Date Posted: 03 June 2013 at 9:06pm


24V relay fitted - should be 48V

DPDT 8A fitted - should be SPDT 16A. On Cloud amps this age, the relay is configured to short the DC bus to ground if the amp goes DC. The DC is backed up by T15A fuses in this model. I have seen otherwise healthy amps like this used on bass duty actually melt the relay covers with the heat from imperfect contacts.

Quench Magnet missing. There should be a strong magnet glued to the relay to quench any DC arc before it gets established. I assume Cloud fitted these based on experience.






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Posted By: kedwardsleisure
Date Posted: 17 July 2013 at 5:14pm
Spot the deliberate mistake.

Mains adapter for DJ laser



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Kevin

North Staffordshire



Posted By: audiomik
Date Posted: 17 July 2013 at 5:16pm
is there a fuse in that moulded 13A plug?
Mik

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Posted By: Peter Jan
Date Posted: 17 July 2013 at 5:22pm
Hmmm ...nop ... can't see the mistake... Confused

And what exactly is tested ?


Posted By: njw
Date Posted: 17 July 2013 at 6:27pm
Originally posted by audiomik audiomik wrote:

is there a fuse in that moulded 13A plug?
Mik
  
 
  What he said ^^ ?


Posted By: M4trix
Date Posted: 17 July 2013 at 7:14pm
The sticker is covering the adapters specs? or the adapter should have been made in Japan not China? LOL 


Posted By: GAZ.
Date Posted: 17 July 2013 at 8:26pm
Its the plug. Its not made to british standard and has no fuse in it.
And the fact it has actually passed a PAT test like that! probably just had a sticker stuck on by any old numpty.

I've come across those at work I cut em off and replace with proper plug, or just change completely if a fig 8 lead.

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Posted By: M4trix
Date Posted: 17 July 2013 at 8:59pm
Originally posted by GAZ. GAZ. wrote:

Its the plug. Its not made to british standard and has no fuse in it.
And the fact it has actually passed a PAT test like that! probably just had a sticker stuck on by any old numpty.

I've come across those at work I cut em off and replace with proper plug, or just change completely if a fig 8 lead.

in other words... the adapter was assembled in China! LOL


Posted By: kedwardsleisure
Date Posted: 17 July 2013 at 11:56pm
Indeed. Not PAT tested by any old numpty but by a commercial testing company, the name of which I;ve obliterated on the pic. No fuse, small cable, fake CE marking. Very nasty.

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Posted By: burningbush
Date Posted: 20 July 2013 at 1:40pm
Is this the end Kevin?
All this time getting standards and enforcing them, now gone.  Trust whats written?  Trust the supply chain? Trust its safe?  Maybe if everything becomes faked or substandard, manufacturing might come home.


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Posted By: kedwardsleisure
Date Posted: 21 July 2013 at 11:31pm
This is almost certainly an ebay purchase. A proper UK (european) business has a legal obligation to sell goods fit for purpose, safe to use and complying with legislation. This item was none of those and I don't suppose the supplier cared...the rules dont apply to private individual sales where it's 'buyer beware'. The PAT test company was also IMHO, negligent to pass it.
If I get time, I'll crack the adapter open and check for double-insulation clearance & creepage since it's marked as such.

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Posted By: kedwardsleisure
Date Posted: 25 October 2013 at 3:32pm
Spot the deliberate mistake

Mackie SRM450 V1



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Posted By: service dept Steve
Date Posted: 25 October 2013 at 3:40pm
Oh No, A decent sounding Mackie, what is the world coming to!
Probably nearer the correct wattage as well.


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Posted By: kedwardsleisure
Date Posted: 25 October 2013 at 5:56pm
This is for a DJ monitor, loud and brash is the way!

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Posted By: service dept Steve
Date Posted: 25 October 2013 at 5:59pm
Originally posted by kedwardsleisure kedwardsleisure wrote:

This is for a DJ monitor, loud and brash is the way!


Like my Missus you mean?


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Posted By: Earplug
Date Posted: 25 October 2013 at 6:46pm
Mistake, or upgrade?

Smile




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Posted By: mini-mad
Date Posted: 25 October 2013 at 7:57pm
Originally posted by Earplug Earplug wrote:

Mistake, or UPGRADE?

Smile




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Posted By: kedwardsleisure
Date Posted: 25 October 2013 at 9:44pm
You're all very disparaging and cynical!

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Posted By: GAZ.
Date Posted: 25 October 2013 at 11:00pm
Hmm a guitar speaker... maybe even a 16 ohm one? What did it come in for, not sounding quite right?

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Posted By: kedwardsleisure
Date Posted: 25 October 2013 at 11:24pm
Mm, yes 15ohm actually. It had been 'for repair' to another place before it arrived here, the owner had no idea it didn't have its original driver in. The proper driver of course should be a cast chassis 8R 300W

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Posted By: kedwardsleisure
Date Posted: 31 October 2013 at 2:53pm
Crown MA5000VZ

output module
The first correct guess will get a look at my halloween fairy cake



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Posted By: burningbush
Date Posted: 31 October 2013 at 3:47pm
Originally posted by kedwardsleisure kedwardsleisure wrote:

get a look at my halloween fairy cake


Is that a euphamism? I think it needs "couple more caps and diodes" in there, should make it better sounding, right????


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Posted By: kedwardsleisure
Date Posted: 31 October 2013 at 4:16pm


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Posted By: RobinMatrix
Date Posted: 31 October 2013 at 4:21pm
Missing screws in the heatsink so the whole thing is wobbling about?

Something off going on with that ribbon cable ... looks like it is plugged into fresh air?


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Posted By: kedwardsleisure
Date Posted: 31 October 2013 at 5:03pm


One for you and three for Andy

S'pose it was obvious in hindsight but since the heatsink screws connect the module to its busbars, the effect was profound, at least when one screw became jammed under the pcb....

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Posted By: RobinMatrix
Date Posted: 31 October 2013 at 5:09pm
Yep, I was looking at that nice expanse of copper PCB track disappearing under the left hand end and going "hmm ... I bet that isn't just there for decoration" :)

I'll make sure Andy gets his ... don't want him wasting away through malnutrition :)


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Posted By: kedwardsleisure
Date Posted: 17 December 2013 at 4:21pm
A recent christmas shopping trip to Amazon turned this up on the end of a wall-wart...




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Posted By: burningbush
Date Posted: 17 December 2013 at 4:32pm
Unfused? Normally the earth pin doesn't need a shield, does it?

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Posted By: mini-mad
Date Posted: 17 December 2013 at 4:33pm
is it me or is the EC printed backwards??

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Posted By: burningbush
Date Posted: 17 December 2013 at 4:41pm
Yeah, CE Mark is mirrored.

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Posted By: oldskool
Date Posted: 17 December 2013 at 6:13pm
The earth pin should be solid plastic if the device being powered is not earthed. If an earth is needed then the earth pin must be solid brass and not sleeved. In fact they have made all the **** ups at once, stupid lady flaps Angry . It is illegal to sell anything with a sleeved earth pin in the UK, it doesn't comply with the relevant standards yet there it is. Be warned Amazon marketplace bastards are a very common source of this counterfeit crap. Manufacturer/importer/retailer/all of them/whoever should be taken out, clubbed, stabbed and then shot in the knee cap, the process then being repeated with the other knee cap and then the elbows.
 
 
 
 
Please note this reply does not represent the views of the moderators or forum owners, merely one guy totally pissed off with the flood of dangerous shite to which we are constantly subjected.

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Posted By: cravings
Date Posted: 17 December 2013 at 6:49pm
does it actually say 12A?


Posted By: kedwardsleisure
Date Posted: 17 December 2013 at 7:56pm
All of the above. There's another flaw that no-ones mentioned yet that is hopefully visible.

I should just say that this came from an address within the UK. An amazon marketplace message highlighting the legal situation brought me a free replacement product which, after stripping down, I found to be more acceptable.

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Posted By: RobinMatrix
Date Posted: 17 December 2013 at 10:04pm
The L and N pins are not solid brass but either folded shite, or, quite possibly, gold-effect plastic ... theres something odd about that crease/flashing on the side of the pins that just does not look right, but I can't really tell from the photo.

But go on, stuff it, I'll hazard a way out guess, are the pins made from gold effect plastic sh1tite?



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Posted By: kedwardsleisure
Date Posted: 17 December 2013 at 10:22pm
The pins are folded brass, but I've seen that before, my Mum's Creda tumble dryer had a moulded plug like that.

The other issue that I can see is the lack of finger guard either side the live pins, a BS1363 plug has to be a certain width in the vicinity of the pins as an aid against accidental contact.

The wall-wart charger innards (it was part of a Cree LED cycle lamp kit) was also a matter of concern. The smpsu board was connected directly to the back of the plug pins; there was no overcurrent protection, and the pcb tracks between primary and secondary didn't have enough clearance for a SELV supply. A short circuit in the psu could have 'gone plasma' and backed up only by a 30A ring mcb (or, in some cases a rewireable fuse) easily have exploded..I'm sure we've all seen the video clips!





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Posted By: RobinMatrix
Date Posted: 17 December 2013 at 11:06pm
Ah yes, you're right.  I think I have got used to seeing so many of these crappy adaptors that I'd forgotten that requirement even existed.

I bought a fairly expensive training aid once, (that goes by the name Scatt if you must know ) that came with a 2 pin wall-wart and a crappy adaptor ... first time I unplugged the thing from the wall socket, the shield in the adaptor caught a lip on the pin, pulled the pin clean out of the wall-wart ... leaving a nice exposed pin and a length of enamelled wire dangling out.

I complained to the distributor, who got a bit shirty ... and somewhat offended when I suggested that a decent UK spec one might be nice on a grands worth of kit ... hey ho.



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Posted By: Earplug
Date Posted: 18 December 2013 at 11:40am
Just the reversed CE mark is enough to get the warning bells ringing. There are piss-takes and then there are those that could kill you. How did that thing ever get into the country?




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Posted By: kedwardsleisure
Date Posted: 19 December 2013 at 6:18pm
I don't think its actually illegal to import something like that, but it would be illegal to sell it either retail or wholesale.

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Posted By: Earplug
Date Posted: 20 December 2013 at 3:18pm
And Amazon sold it to you? Have you reported them? Aren´t they one of the happy bunch who trade in the UK, but pay their taxes in some off-shore paradise? If so, it would be good to fook ´em a bit.  Evil Smile




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Posted By: lost eden
Date Posted: 20 December 2013 at 4:03pm
I recently bought some battery chargers on Amazon that had similar looking adapters - my immediate concern was that they looked to be unfused & 30 seconds later with a screwdriver my suspicion was proven correct. Straight in the bin with them!


Posted By: kedwardsleisure
Date Posted: 20 December 2013 at 4:27pm
Direct imports, sold by people who either don't know about or don't care about meeting approvals. I can't imagine how many tons of this stuff arrive at the docks every day; I do know we're in a worse position than ever before with dangerous goods being sold...and sold easily and freely and in such huge numbers. If Curry's had mistakenly sold a single item found to be a fire or shock hazard, there'd be recalls in the national press. They're the retailer and the buck stops with them. But sole traders with no premises, assets or address?

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Posted By: Earplug
Date Posted: 20 December 2013 at 6:08pm
Ok, understood, but can´t anything be done to stop Amazon listing these idiots? I´m sure ebay have been pressured to shut down some sellers with fakes of some well known brands, etc. I guess someone will have to die before they wake up.  :/






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Posted By: kedwardsleisure
Date Posted: 20 December 2013 at 9:01pm
Until Amazon opens their own quality checks department I can't see how they can police it. The law is already clear and the responsibility lies with the seller. This sort of dangerous goods have been offered for sale on the Tesco website as well..the net's full of holes.

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Posted By: njw
Date Posted: 24 December 2013 at 10:01pm
 
  Reminds me of this thing I got supplied with a smoke machine, obviously the machine needed an earth and I'm sure it had a 15A fuse in it, not to mention the lack of sleeving on the pins.
 
 
 


Posted By: kedwardsleisure
Date Posted: 31 July 2014 at 9:10pm
Martin light fixture which failed its earth bond test



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Posted By: mini-mad
Date Posted: 31 July 2014 at 11:45pm
I see the mistake!!!!! There is a dirty finger under those three cables!!!
I found it! I found it!



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Posted By: jbinks-v2
Date Posted: 01 August 2014 at 10:30am
The twisted cores should have been anti-clockwise?


Posted By: mini-mad
Date Posted: 01 August 2014 at 4:35pm
table top is a laminate pine and it should be more of an oak colour...?




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If it sounds like a gorilla is trying to escape, turn it down.


Posted By: burningbush
Date Posted: 01 August 2014 at 5:14pm
You forgot the toilet paper?


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Posted By: TONY.A.S.S.
Date Posted: 01 August 2014 at 8:25pm
Originally posted by jbinks-v2 jbinks-v2 wrote:

The twisted cores should have been anti-clockwise?
This reminded me of a funny situation a long time ago. I was with someone on a very big job, who can be quite Anal. Anyway I was soldering some ends and the other guy was as well, I had twisted the cable in the usual manner and handed it to him to solder, he just laughed nervously and twisted them back the other way and then carried on soldering. Not a word was mentioned. He is a very clever guy, so perhaps he knows something I don't.


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Posted By: mini-mad
Date Posted: 01 August 2014 at 10:40pm
Originally posted by TONY.A.S.S. TONY.A.S.S. wrote:

Originally posted by jbinks-v2 jbinks-v2 wrote:

The twisted cores should have been anti-clockwise?

This reminded me of a funny situation a long time ago. I was with someone on a very big job, who can be quite Anal. Anyway I was soldering some ends and the other guy was as well, I had twisted the cable in the usual manner and handed it to him to solder, he just laughed nervously and twisted them back the other way and then carried on soldering. Not a word was mentioned. He is a very clever guy, so perhaps he knows something I don't.

Everyone knows the universe travels in an anti-clockwise rotation.... geee's Tony!! You should have known better.lol


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Posted By: TONY.A.S.S.
Date Posted: 02 August 2014 at 12:26am
This wasn't as bad as the Guy who insisted I cut 7 strands from a cable before I connected, but he was Hi Fi.

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Posted By: mini-mad
Date Posted: 02 August 2014 at 12:34am
...bloody hi-fi nuts... if it was an 8 strand cable it would be funnier lol



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If it sounds like a gorilla is trying to escape, turn it down.


Posted By: kedwardsleisure
Date Posted: 13 August 2014 at 12:42pm
QTX QA1600, took me ages to track this one down




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Kevin

North Staffordshire



Posted By: Earplug
Date Posted: 13 August 2014 at 1:17pm
Never mind the amp - what´s up with your trousers? Two-tone denims - or did you spill something on them?  Smile




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Earplugs Are For Wimps!


Posted By: mini-mad
Date Posted: 13 August 2014 at 2:35pm
No fair!!... show us the undersized tranny and lack of power transisters on the 1.6 jigger-watt monster!!



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If it sounds like a gorilla is trying to escape, turn it down.


Posted By: kedwardsleisure
Date Posted: 13 August 2014 at 2:41pm
Jeans are fine, must be a trick of the light, will put proper pic in amp internals when (amp) all cleaned up, got 2 new fans and a set of o/p transistors to fit after someone fitted a fake transistor and an undersized fan on one channel

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Kevin

North Staffordshire



Posted By: njw
Date Posted: 13 August 2014 at 8:06pm
  Had that cap just fallen off? Shocked


Posted By: Earplug
Date Posted: 14 August 2014 at 11:56am
"Had that cap just fallen off?"

That would explain the buzz. Hot glue is our friend.


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Earplugs Are For Wimps!


Posted By: kedwardsleisure
Date Posted: 14 August 2014 at 1:35pm
Shan't use hotmelt glue, it will fracture, prefer contact adhesive.
I suspect the lead-free solder failed.



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Kevin

North Staffordshire



Posted By: Earplug
Date Posted: 14 August 2014 at 4:32pm
"Shan't use hotmelt glue, it will fracture"

Not if you use enough of it!   Smile

Contact is good as well, but I don´t like the smell.  Reminds me too much of some of the horrible squat venues I worked years ago in the UK.   Embarrassed




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Earplugs Are For Wimps!


Posted By: kedwardsleisure
Date Posted: 14 August 2014 at 8:13pm
I see! That will be the teen spirit

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Kevin

North Staffordshire



Posted By: VentureSound
Date Posted: 15 August 2014 at 12:11pm
For a moment there I thought someone had bodged and extra smoothing cap or two in there, now I realise one had ripped out!


Posted By: Earplug
Date Posted: 15 August 2014 at 2:10pm
"That will be the teen spirit"

Yes, I often wonder if they still make squat gigs (in the UK) like they used to in the good old days...  Ermm





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Earplugs Are For Wimps!


Posted By: kedwardsleisure
Date Posted: 15 August 2014 at 8:25pm
I wouldn't know, not my scene! The closest I can come to that sort of thing is when another dealer asked me if I wanted to repair a Wurlitzer 200 piano with the caveat 'I should warn you - it's been pissed in'.





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Kevin

North Staffordshire




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