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Wanting to start building 2 Hd15's

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Topic: Wanting to start building 2 Hd15's
Posted By: jack lane
Subject: Wanting to start building 2 Hd15's
Date Posted: 21 May 2013 at 12:18am
Iv got next to no knowledge of building a sound system but have some carpentry experience so the woodwork shouldn't be a problem! The things that worry me are crossovers? Drivers? Amps? Would just like some general help as I'm not sure where to look! thanks jack



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Posted By: Monkeys
Date Posted: 21 May 2013 at 1:15am
What's your purpose for this project?

Are you planning to add the HD15's to other speakers? If so, what are they?

If not, you will also need to think about what top boxes to use with the HD's.

A pair of HD15's on their own isn't going to be of much use to anyone..


Posted By: jack lane
Date Posted: 21 May 2013 at 4:38pm
Purpose is starting a free party rig which I hope to expand over time! No other speaker at present but later on will be used maybe with 1850's? And for tops I was considering mt130's? Or maybe for ease buy some for now?


Posted By: b grade
Date Posted: 21 May 2013 at 5:20pm
For your long term plan, I don't think HD15s will be the best combo with 1850s.  Neither drops very low without a stack of them.  The 1850 is an all around bass enclosure, and would be a good replacement upgrade for an HD15.  If you want more bass below the HD15s you could do a band pass subwoofer or else some scoops.  If you are only going to build a pair, I would go with some Tapped horns or Bass Reflex for bass duty.  HD15s and MT130s for that matter will sound much better if you have a bunch of them in each stack.


Posted By: jack lane
Date Posted: 21 May 2013 at 6:09pm
Okay thanks for that! also say I had two subs with 800w drivers in each with 2 mid tops about 200w each what ampage would I need? And what else would I need just too run the speakers


Posted By: mini-mad
Date Posted: 21 May 2013 at 6:23pm
providing the subs are 8ohm... i'd go for an amp with 1000/1000 @8ohm. the little bit of head room will stop you trying to run the amp into clip and making it sound nasty.

matrix do a MF3000... its well worth the money as i have a few matrix amps now and i love them to bits!

..plus it'll weigh about 10kg at a push.


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Posted By: jack lane
Date Posted: 21 May 2013 at 7:00pm
Okay! would I need an external crossover or anything like that?


Posted By: b grade
Date Posted: 21 May 2013 at 9:54pm
Definitely.  External crossover is pretty much required.  You could try to make passive crossovers in the enclosures, but the components needed to make them capable of handling high powers won't save you any money and then you have 0 adjustment capabilities.


Posted By: jack lane
Date Posted: 21 May 2013 at 10:03pm
the connecting up sounds soo confusing !


Posted By: Monkeys
Date Posted: 21 May 2013 at 11:36pm
Originally posted by jack lane jack lane wrote:

the connecting up sounds soo confusing !


It's really not that difficult. You just need to think about breaking it down to your signal chain. It should run something like this.

Source - Mixer - Active crossover - Amps - Speakers

If you're starting from scratch with building your system. I would reccomend the Punisher & Xtro combo. I've got 4 Punishers and they pump. Haven't heard the xtro but apparently it's one of the best sounding tops available.


Posted By: Monkeys
Date Posted: 21 May 2013 at 11:38pm
Also it make things much easier and faster to connect everything up if you label the ends of your cables with where they are supposed to go!


Posted By: bitSmasher
Date Posted: 21 May 2013 at 11:57pm
Originally posted by Monkeys Monkeys wrote:

A pair of HD15's on their own isn't going to be of much use to anyone..
would be a wicked techno rig LOL


Posted By: Baron Greenback
Date Posted: 22 May 2013 at 7:38am
Jack are you in Leighton Shropshire? As I am based in Shrewsbury, just asking as we have a combination of HD15 speakers with MS18 cabs, there is a free party this weekend if you are interested and want to have a listen? BTW I love our HD15 cabs, we have 8 and in clusters of 4 stacked above subs they belt it out, it is like being slapped in the face! Here is a pic of half or our rig:  







Due to electricity limitations, we only take 2 subs, 2 kicks, 2 tops, and a monitor to our free partys, although you will be impressed by the amount of sound that those 6 speakers can produce front of house!


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Posted By: jack lane
Date Posted: 22 May 2013 at 10:20am
No I'm based in Leighton buzzard think your about 2 hours away!!! what's the rig name? looking impressive exactly what I'd like to have in a few years!! Just need to get started


Posted By: Baron Greenback
Date Posted: 22 May 2013 at 10:52am
Cheers Jack, the rig is called "The Goblin System" it is a name which has been with it from the early days and has kinda stuck, post your build pics matey so we can see how you are getting on.

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Posted By: jack lane
Date Posted: 22 May 2013 at 11:32am
Yeh will do! maybe even link ups in the future, not that you need it!!!


Posted By: jack lane
Date Posted: 23 May 2013 at 7:24pm
What would the best option with regards to, i think they're called binding posts? at the back of the speaker. Speakon plates? 


Posted By: b grade
Date Posted: 23 May 2013 at 7:30pm
Personally, I prefer the circular flange speakon jacks rebated into the wood.  The plate will work too, but whatever you do, make sure its airtight.


Posted By: jack lane
Date Posted: 23 May 2013 at 7:41pm
Okay thanks! and I'd only need one per cab right?


Posted By: b grade
Date Posted: 23 May 2013 at 8:18pm
You only need 1, but I would suggest 2 so you can daisy chain later when you build more.


Posted By: infrasound
Date Posted: 23 May 2013 at 8:39pm
Originally posted by b grade b grade wrote:

You only need 1, but I would suggest 2 so you can daisy chain later when you build more.

I like the "when you build more", not "if"

Tongue


Posted By: jack lane
Date Posted: 23 May 2013 at 8:43pm
I can already tell its going to be hard to stop building!!!


Posted By: Edd Jordan
Date Posted: 24 May 2013 at 12:04am
What type of music are you going to be playing? 

Ps This might help 



 


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Posted By: bitSmasher
Date Posted: 24 May 2013 at 12:32am
That stick figure needs a scowl on its face


Posted By: Edd Jordan
Date Posted: 24 May 2013 at 2:58pm
LOL

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Posted By: jack lane
Date Posted: 24 May 2013 at 3:30pm
A variety! alot of bass!, d & b, prog, Hard trance, 


Posted By: Edd Jordan
Date Posted: 24 May 2013 at 11:42pm
any idea what kind of budget?

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Posted By: jack lane
Date Posted: 26 May 2013 at 7:05pm
Not much really!


Posted By: Edd Jordan
Date Posted: 26 May 2013 at 11:57pm
well bear n mind you will need all that stuff on page 2. i know a few people who have built great speakers and had to run it it with crap amps and xovers and cabling (run out of funds) build with in your means. if you have friends who have a system why not build stuff that you can in the mean time link into there systems and slowly keep adding to yours? i built 2 hds last week and they came to £450 loaded with 154s, nl8 connections, 18mm birch ply, and paint. 

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