Trap Scoops
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Topic: Trap Scoops
Posted By: Dub Specialist
Subject: Trap Scoops
Date Posted: 30 May 2013 at 2:13pm
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just seen these on e-bay what's with the Trap Scoop tell me more please who's build these? what the idea/science behind them array?  just dug this pic out too from my achive of pics...   so ovisly these is the sound thay belong too, anyone know the sound name? thanks ------------- treat all creation with respect. For music is sound...sound is vibration...vibration is energy... and energy begets life. Therein lies my passion! MUSIC IS LIFE 
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Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 30 May 2013 at 2:16pm
| Built by Noise Control Audio. |
Posted By: CETUS A
Date Posted: 30 May 2013 at 2:47pm
| Ligwa has them up in the for sale section |
Posted By: Autograff
Date Posted: 30 May 2013 at 3:21pm
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Where? ------------- Liquid_Steel_Sessions R8 Records |
Posted By: CETUS A
Date Posted: 30 May 2013 at 7:43pm
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@ Autograff - For Sale section - 18'' Green Scoop Bins @ Dub Specialist - Good detective work there  +1 would also like to know what is going on with these bins ... ... science wize
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Posted By: studio45
Date Posted: 30 May 2013 at 7:48pm
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I made four trap bandpass 15 horns once and it was a GIANT PAIN IN THE ARSE. And they only had three "difficult" panels in them. A trap scoop scares me; the mitres...the endless compound mitres...arrrgh! For people with Autocad, CNC and masochistic tendencies only, IMO. ------------- Studio45 - Repairs & Building Commotion Soundsystem -Mobile PA |
Posted By: Goodvibetribe
Date Posted: 30 May 2013 at 7:55pm
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I don't know for sure, but at a guess it may help make it a bit more directional when grouped. Or it could just be that its for aesthetic purposes and to help arraying them, so they would have a specific kick/top combination of the same shape. They are certainly discontinued now anyway. ------------- George c - www.gorilla-audio.co.uk facebook.com/gorillaaudiohire |
Posted By: Heathrow_B_line
Date Posted: 30 May 2013 at 8:57pm
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trap scoops are rubbish they contract when they should be expanding ------------- Produce a killer sound. Take no prisoners. |
Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 30 May 2013 at 9:45pm
+1 ------------- Global Depopulation - Alive and Killing. |
Heathrow_B_line wrote:Posted By: Heathrow_B_line
Date Posted: 30 May 2013 at 11:16pm
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/18-Bass-Scoop-bins-/181149583076?pt=UK_Sound_Vision_Speakers_Monitor&hash=item2a2d5b46e4" rel="nofollow - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/18-Bass-Scoop-bins-/181149583076?pt=UK_Sound_Vision_Speakers_Monitor&hash=item2a2d5b46e4 ------------- Produce a killer sound. Take no prisoners. |
Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 30 May 2013 at 11:33pm
Bit of a castor fetish! |
Posted By: TRE4U2NV
Date Posted: 30 May 2013 at 11:45pm
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cecil matrix boxes built by noise control before they were noise control in france ------------- IM SO SECRETIVE BUT I CANT TELL YOU WHY |
Posted By: Dub Specialist
Date Posted: 30 May 2013 at 11:48pm
 i was thinking the same thing.....------------- treat all creation with respect. For music is sound...sound is vibration...vibration is energy... and energy begets life. Therein lies my passion! MUSIC IS LIFE
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Posted By: Dub Specialist
Date Posted: 30 May 2013 at 11:52pm
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what is going on too with the description..the bidding is only for 1x scoop that what is says  ------------- treat all creation with respect. For music is sound...sound is vibration...vibration is energy... and energy begets life. Therein lies my passion! MUSIC IS LIFE
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Posted By: TONY.A.S.S.
Date Posted: 31 May 2013 at 9:02pm
I've done a 21 trap scoop, it's the bottom end of the Reflekta system. and you don't need any of those things you mentioned. ( apart from the Masochistic tendencies.) ------------- http://www.facebook.com/tony.rossell.3" rel="nofollow - http://www.facebook.com/tony.rossell.3 |
Posted By: lickweed
Date Posted: 15 June 2013 at 2:37pm
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So how trap scoop sounds? Any info?,i never saw trap scoops before ------------- http://www.liquidsound.co.uk/ |
Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 15 June 2013 at 3:16pm
Good luck building hornloaded kick cabs, that stack neatly above. ------------- Global Depopulation - Alive and Killing. |
Posted By: lickweed
Date Posted: 15 June 2013 at 3:30pm
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Thanks for reply,but any info on actual sound,i presume that they are no good ------------- http://www.liquidsound.co.uk/ |
Posted By: TONY.A.S.S.
Date Posted: 15 June 2013 at 4:19pm
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There is no reason why a Trap Scoop will sound any worse than a standard cab. It's all in the design and structure, The expansion works out well. You just have to get your starting point worked out. Trap boxes are more horn like than rectangular boxes. I've only done 21's which were much smaller than my previous 21" standard Scoop, and these were compromised to fit in with the box size of the Reflekta system. Being able to do this gave me Sub, Bass and `Mid/Hi cabs which were all identical sizes. No one, to my knowledge complained about the cabs. There was ten of them in the Astoria for many years until it closed. All sorts of Music was covered in that Venue. It needs to be a heavy box though.
------------- http://www.facebook.com/tony.rossell.3" rel="nofollow - http://www.facebook.com/tony.rossell.3 |
Posted By: lickweed
Date Posted: 15 June 2013 at 6:13pm
So thats dosn't have affect? ------------- http://www.liquidsound.co.uk/ |
Posted By: Goodvibetribe
Date Posted: 15 June 2013 at 10:12pm
Well this was my earlier point about them, They may only be shaped this way so they would match up with a specific Kick/Top combination also produced by the manufacturer. ------------- George c - www.gorilla-audio.co.uk facebook.com/gorillaaudiohire |
Posted By: b grade
Date Posted: 15 June 2013 at 10:51pm
| Geometrically, you could design them to have proper expansion throughout the horn, but it would definitely be harder to design them and you certainly would not want to take an existing rectangle box and taper the back or you would have poor or negative expansion until the fold made the turn at the back wall. Expansion from that back corner toward the mouth could work out well though. Really though I think if you wanted to torture yourself doing a trap folded horn, I would do something that plays higher than a scoop, like a FLH so you could take advantage of the higher frequencies' wider dispersion. Sub frequencies are omnidirectional anyhow which is really where a scoop shines, so not worth the bother having splayed scoops unless (as mentioned above) it is to have a matching splay for the kicks. |
Posted By: TONY.A.S.S.
Date Posted: 16 June 2013 at 6:51am
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From the throat, it's all expansion. After the throat part you only have to make sure that the space at the top is bigger than the space at the throat by using a certain Angle, and by doing this you end up with the correct board for the last bit of the Horn before the mouth part happens. If you start to draw these things out full size on a Board as I do, it will fall into place. ------------- http://www.facebook.com/tony.rossell.3" rel="nofollow - http://www.facebook.com/tony.rossell.3 |
Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 16 June 2013 at 8:47am
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Posted By: greenmachine
Date Posted: 08 July 2013 at 12:11pm
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got 8 and play above most scoops ------------- some will love some will not round deep solid bassline clean clear mid tops.pre amp oh yes. |