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Topic: Glastonbury
Posted By: jacethebase
Subject: Glastonbury
Date Posted: 01 July 2013 at 6:33pm


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Date Posted: 01 July 2013 at 6:34pm


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Date Posted: 01 July 2013 at 6:36pm


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Date Posted: 01 July 2013 at 6:36pm


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Posted By: nuclearbass
Date Posted: 01 July 2013 at 6:43pm
Originally posted by jacethebase jacethebase wrote:




Now that's more like it, what was on this stage

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Posted By: jacethebase
Date Posted: 01 July 2013 at 6:54pm


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Date Posted: 01 July 2013 at 6:54pm


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Posted By: Grubbah
Date Posted: 01 July 2013 at 6:56pm
Originally posted by nuclearbass nuclearbass wrote:

Originally posted by jacethebase jacethebase wrote:




Now that's more like it, what was on this stage


Arcadia




Posted By: jacethebase
Date Posted: 01 July 2013 at 6:56pm
Originally posted by nuclearbass nuclearbass wrote:

Originally posted by jacethebase jacethebase wrote:




Now that's more like it, what was on this stage


Was a Funktion One Res 5 / 221 system I will upload a pic in a sec of it :)


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Posted By: jacethebase
Date Posted: 01 July 2013 at 6:58pm


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Posted By: Edd Jordan
Date Posted: 01 July 2013 at 7:45pm
wish id been there! next year.

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Posted By: Grubbah
Date Posted: 01 July 2013 at 8:22pm


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Date Posted: 01 July 2013 at 8:25pm


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Date Posted: 01 July 2013 at 8:32pm


Posted By: nuclearbass
Date Posted: 01 July 2013 at 9:16pm
Originally posted by Grubbah Grubbah wrote:




What's the trench for?
Cables?

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Posted By: dlyxover
Date Posted: 01 July 2013 at 9:19pm
indeed it is

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Posted By: Grubbah
Date Posted: 01 July 2013 at 9:37pm
Originally posted by nuclearbass nuclearbass wrote:

Originally posted by Grubbah Grubbah wrote:




What's the trench for?
Cables?


Yeah this was Wednesday during the day at the West Holts stage. Trench is for all mult-core lines etc.

EV line array I think.


Posted By: mk2_ginger_biscuit69
Date Posted: 01 July 2013 at 10:04pm
got no pictures unfortunately....

pyramid was the usual... great sound in sweet spots, but when 100,000 people are in the way, you cannot get to those sweet spots, just quiet areas with the wind blowing the sound all over the place. Stones was 120k peoples, just broadcast as 100k as that's ''capacity'' haha. Either way i left after two songs as the sound up the back where i was [too tired to go fighting through people] was crap.

west holt for Chic, again, nice sound, but far too quiet. These sound limits are getting silly,

Other stage: chase & status - blatantly a lot of prerecorded material and miming. I was there 30mins before show, watching the setup... decks on tables with no plugging in/testing, string group coming out and start playing with no sound then like magic a perfectly balanced/mixed string chord starts perfectly timed to the synth noise coming out - not impressed. Did i mention the crowd of teenage gurners? Rig wise D&B Jseries, nice and loud and sounding good as usual.

spirit of 71: what an awesome venue, cool lighting, and surprisingly good sound from the arrays, plenty of punchy bass etc, and proper volume. My favorite hangout of the weekend.

arcadia: bit 'samey', is awesome, but very quiet, some terribad dj's/live vocalists, bring back the first year of it before it became a victim of its own success.

the blues [mungo hifi i think?], suitably wobbly bassline, but a bit of class A-void lacking sound in the lower mid.

avalon [lucy rose], really nice sound, noticed the house lampie was pretty spot on with the cues etc, generally a nice little venue

Gstage: powered by opusjody if i am not mistaken, on the whole the sound was very good, but on certain songs the upper bass was slightly overpowering - but i dont know if that was down to geo-dome acoustics, dj fingers etc...

Sensation: [wheel of fourtunes] - bloody mental lads from my hometown started at my local, highly entertaining, pretty poor sound but thats all part of the fun of the show i think!

that's about it really, was working long hours so only got out a few hours a day!!!



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Posted By: mk2_ginger_biscuit69
Date Posted: 01 July 2013 at 10:32pm
oh, and john peel: Tom odell: cracking sound, and real talent - will go far


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Posted By: Grubbah
Date Posted: 02 July 2013 at 11:39am
Originally posted by mk2_ginger_biscuit69 mk2_ginger_biscuit69 wrote:

oh, and john peel: Tom odell: cracking sound, and real talent - will go far


+1 for Tom Odell. Great sound, really good set.

What was the line array in the john peel? i thought the sound was pretty consistent in there when i was in.


Posted By: mk2_ginger_biscuit69
Date Posted: 02 July 2013 at 11:43am
not a clue, i was chilling up near FOH for a few songs until it got too busy then went got a cider and collapsed down on the grass in the sun!


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Posted By: jacethebase
Date Posted: 02 July 2013 at 1:01pm
Originally posted by Grubbah Grubbah wrote:

Originally posted by mk2_ginger_biscuit69 mk2_ginger_biscuit69 wrote:

oh, and john peel: Tom odell: cracking sound, and real talent - will go far


+1 for Tom Odell. Great sound, really good set.

What was the line array in the john peel? i thought the sound was pretty consistent in there when i was in.


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Posted By: Keen
Date Posted: 02 July 2013 at 1:09pm
just spent last hour browsing pictures, reading stories. so intriguing to see a mix of everthing in the one place. what a trip< id="ext_msg_elm" ="">


Posted By: 4D
Date Posted: 02 July 2013 at 1:57pm
[Croak].. 

Glastonbury,  the premier event in the music and performing arts, be there or be square. 

Stones from just in front of the mix position were totally radio rental. 100k plus people singing along at the top of their voices was seriously uplifting. 

"You can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, well you might find you get what you need... "

Audio quality over the whole site was pretty deplorable with a few purple green or blue exceptions most places sounded low bit rate mp3.   The stage with the waterfall had some fat bass lines.  

Unbelievable amount of gratuitous cellulite wobbling around. 

Shout out to BM's Jody, Tom + Dan from Production Hire.

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Posted By: mk2_ginger_biscuit69
Date Posted: 02 July 2013 at 2:50pm
Originally posted by 4D 4D wrote:

[Croak].. 
Audio quality over the whole site was pretty deplorable with a few purple green or blue exceptions most places sounded low bit rate mp3.  
[/Croak]   


certainly true for a lot of the bigger stages i must say - especially the stones, i had to leave after three songs. Sounded like a mobile phone playing it on a bus!



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Posted By: 4D
Date Posted: 02 July 2013 at 4:07pm

Even with them being etched into my primary neural pathways (Hyde park 1969 at the age of 14) the Stones set was pretty hard to engage with. 

Walking down from the top, the first thing to overcome was the time lag on the video screens, it made it all seem like gibberish.  

Then the audio was so poor it was hard to tell who was playing which lick on which guitar.   

It was only having forced ones way round the mix booth where you could get eye to eye with the band that it came together.  

Even then it seemed pretty flat till midway through when the vibe picked up a bit and really tbh, it was only on the way back to camp that I found myself totally buzzing, playing air guitar and leaping around to the tunes still reverberating round in my head.  

Still am so it must have been good :)




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Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 02 July 2013 at 7:47pm
Originally posted by 4D 4D wrote:

The stage with the waterfall had some fat bass lines.


System by NCA, desk operation by one of our guys with a Drawmer SP2120 in tow he's absolutely sold on the event now, don't think I'll be getting him back on that weekend again!


Posted By: bwilbee
Date Posted: 05 July 2013 at 1:18am
Originally posted by jacethebase jacethebase wrote:

Originally posted by nuclearbass nuclearbass wrote:

Originally posted by jacethebase jacethebase wrote:




Now that's more like it, what was on this stage


Was a Funktion One Res 5 / 221 system I will upload a pic in a sec of it :)


30 x Res 5 and 18 x 221's forming the outer 6 stacks, 6 x Res 4 hung from the structures legs as delays with 6 x 218 below. 4 x res2 sh and 2 x AX88 as outfills, then 4 stacks of D&B C on the fire tornado and lords of lightning.

I had ambisonics set up across the outer 6 stacks and the system was sounding great in the sound field, however the crowd was much larger than expected and the noise control team were the most 'on it' i have ever experienced.


Posted By: James Tengo
Date Posted: 05 July 2013 at 1:30am
Originally posted by mk2_ginger_biscuit69 mk2_ginger_biscuit69 wrote:


avalon [lucy rose], really nice sound, noticed the house lampie was pretty spot on with the cues etc, generally a nice little venue


Will Thomas (Coldcut, Bonobo, Seasick Steve, etc) or J.C. (Laura Marling) on lighting duties in Avalon, two of my favourite people in the entire world. I spent a fair bit of time in their FOH, as sofa and fridge, gin and tonic, good friends and conversation were the order of the day


Posted By: James Tengo
Date Posted: 05 July 2013 at 1:35am
Was nice to meet you Ben, it's such a shame you were so heavily limited.


Posted By: mk2_ginger_biscuit69
Date Posted: 05 July 2013 at 11:13am
arcadia had so much potential, but seems a victim of its own success, i remember years ago with the large stage that actually had a band stage in the middle too, still had the flames, lots more smoke, enough volume to stop you having a casual conversation with the person next to you, tesla people were on the stage itself etc etc. Not to mention the music being way better in days gone by!!

I didn't like this year, it all seemed smaller, with far too many people [most of which were there stand still making videos for youtube/facebook], and having the lightning show and flame show in separate areas killed the atmosphere.

Biggest letdown overall was the general site limits, very few stages on site were at what i call an acceptable party volume [spirit 71, glade lounge, inside john peel, avalon, were the few consistent ones].

I just can't get into gigs unless the sound is suitably loud, which rules out most the main stages Thumbs Down.

sorry Arcadia, but i liked the old you when all the yuppies had gone home/to bed.



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Posted By: jacethebase
Date Posted: 05 July 2013 at 11:38am
I thought the sound on Arcadia was perfectly loud enough when I went to watch Andy C. I'm more interested in detail than quantity myself these days.

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Posted By: Grubbah
Date Posted: 05 July 2013 at 1:08pm
Originally posted by jacethebase jacethebase wrote:

I thought the sound on Arcadia was perfectly loud enough when I went to watch Andy C. I'm more interested in detail than quantity myself these days.


Hardly accommodated for the amount people that tried to get there though when a daft punk rumor went about. That being said half the crowd disappeared when chase and status turned up LOL


Posted By: jacethebase
Date Posted: 05 July 2013 at 1:16pm
I see your point but I see it as a if your not in the circle your going to get shit sound. So get in the circle. I do think they should have made the circle bigger but that's not the sound systems fault.

I was a bit amazed how people were still expecting daft punk! It had wrote on the side of Arcadia "Fat Boy Slim" Chase & Status" in massive capitals letters projected on.


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Posted By: bwilbee
Date Posted: 05 July 2013 at 1:27pm
Nice to meet you too James, hope Hyde Park is treating you well! The problems came when we had mcs on stage, it's the vocals that carry and where the mcs monitor off the 'rig' there is no option to just turn up their monitors! 

I won't comment too much on what you're saying Pat, but get to boomtown if you can to see Arcadia how it's intended ;)


Posted By: bwilbee
Date Posted: 05 July 2013 at 1:32pm
Originally posted by jacethebase jacethebase wrote:

I do think they should have made the circle bigger but that's not the sound systems fault.


Unfortunately the soundfield won't work if it is any bigger. There is talk of running 3 hexagons coming from each leg at some point in the future.


Posted By: wangbag
Date Posted: 05 July 2013 at 1:54pm
pyramid was total shit, could hear the crowd over the rig 90% of the time unless you got a gust of wind in your direction. spirit of 71 and Gstage were both consistent in good sound, nice atmosphere, and enough room to hold your pint.. unlike most of silver hayse, Wow! was utter shite considering the rig and line-up over the weekend, too many gurned up uni lads grinding eachother..
i spent most of my time there above the railway line Bez' Acid House was a favourite, rig wasn't amazing (NCA) but sounded balanced and the music was good (most of the time) and not too packed.

Does anyone know what rig they were using for The Park stage? saw a few amazing acts there Buttons was incredible and the rig was singing full tilt, pretty sure it was Martin, something point source.. put out amazing crystal clear mids/tops and super tight punchy bass, was incrediblyloud for 6/bins and 6/8 tops a side.


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Posted By: mk2_ginger_biscuit69
Date Posted: 05 July 2013 at 3:29pm
i would love to do boomtown, but unfortunately the various contractors i work for have nothing to do with it so i have no paid way in [and i never intend to buy a ticket for an event, just seems wrong to me!]!

does look good though, and sorry i didn't mean to slate you guys, all the potential is there, not your fault - could just use a better location with more volume and more space. And possibly give the crane op's a beer tap each, poor lads were up there for hours every night, probably with scorched back hair!



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Posted By: Goodvibetribe
Date Posted: 05 July 2013 at 7:05pm
Hopefully the production manager will approve MLA for the main stages next year. That way they it could hopefully be a bit louder if your in the crowd, and quieter outside so as not to be affected by the limits so much.

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Posted By: mk2_ginger_biscuit69
Date Posted: 05 July 2013 at 7:22pm
think the pyramid stage is beyond help, you maybe able to channel the sounds direction, but ultimately it will go somewhere, and that somewhere is straight down the valley towards the minority of moaning c##ts in Pylle [and beyond]. Might be no bleed onsite, but that noise is still traveling offsite regardless of how many £millions of tech you threw at it, short of having cancellation stacks out at the far reaches of the arena itself.

Personally i think the best year was with the FK1 point source, but that suffered heavily from noise complaints on the windless sunday when sound was traveling everywhere miles and the whole site was crippled.




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Posted By: jacethebase
Date Posted: 05 July 2013 at 9:51pm
Originally posted by bwilbee bwilbee wrote:

Originally posted by jacethebase jacethebase wrote:

I do think they should have made the circle bigger but that's not the sound systems fault.


Unfortunately the soundfield won't work if it is any bigger. There is talk of running 3 hexagons coming from each leg at some point in the future.


Why not?


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Posted By: bwilbee
Date Posted: 06 July 2013 at 12:29am
http://www.funktion-one.com/dl/files/1602.pdf is a white paper written by Tony Andrews and John Newsham and contains lots of information gathered from their experiments with ambisonics, it's well worth a read alongside the Haas Effect http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precedence_effect.

They found that in circles with a diameter greater than 50m when ambisonic panning if you were close to one stack you would get the impression of the speakers switching on and off, not the sound moving around the soundfield.

There are other considerations when just playing stereo program music as well, as the distance between stacks increases the delay of the different speakers becomes greater and your brain begins to recognise the opposite stack as an echo, not a single sound. This same delay effects the amount of cancellation achieved outside the sound field. 


Posted By: infrasound
Date Posted: 06 July 2013 at 4:09am
Boomtown is supposedly the same FK1 on main stages as last year, hopefully they do a better job this time Ermm. (Aside from (Audio X? Res 9s + 21s) the DnB tent)

Anyway, I digress. Have heard praise for the smaller stages at Glasto, not so good for the larger. (And the crowds were more 'impenetrable' than ever !)


Posted By: studio45
Date Posted: 06 July 2013 at 9:46am
Originally posted by mk2_ginger_biscuit69 mk2_ginger_biscuit69 wrote:

the minority of moaning c##ts in Pylle [and beyond]. 
Eavis should send em off on a cruise for a week, and then turn it up so loud it knocks their garden gnomes over LOL


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Posted By: jacethebase
Date Posted: 06 July 2013 at 10:14am
Surely once the "Arcadia show" is over ambisonics is out of the window anyway? As all the music has to be converted in to an ambisonics format anyway?


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Posted By: mk2_ginger_biscuit69
Date Posted: 06 July 2013 at 7:30pm
Originally posted by studio45 studio45 wrote:

Originally posted by mk2_ginger_biscuit69 mk2_ginger_biscuit69 wrote:

the minority of moaning c##ts in Pylle [and beyond]. 
Eavis should send em off on a cruise for a week, and then turn it up so loud it knocks their garden gnomes over LOL


he already gives free tickets to Pilton and Pylle folks, sends those who hate the festival off for a weeks holiday, posts security in peoples gardens while they are away, closes the roads to festival traffic, pays local shops and pubs loss of earnings to close during 'party days' [to limit loitering hippies and unwanted through-traffic], etc etc all to appease the licensing gods.

Doesn't work when stubborn commuting Londoners, with country retreats [bought well after the festival established], decide to complain 'just because'.

The license is available online [i read the 2010 license out of curiosity], and although a hard slog, you find out some really interesting things you wouldn't otherwise know, which ultimately does put a lot of the festival into perspective.



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Posted By: Timebomb
Date Posted: 07 July 2013 at 12:54am
I read a glastonbury license years ago and got the impression that the police and counsel would always let the application go through, as they make loads of money from it.  They let it happen for many years when he completely failed to control numbers, i think it was his own decesion after Roskilde to put up the fence and stop over crowding, not the counsels.  I kind of think Eavis could play it harder and get more workable noise limits. 

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Posted By: studio45
Date Posted: 07 July 2013 at 3:17pm
Originally posted by mk2_ginger_biscuit69 mk2_ginger_biscuit69 wrote:



he already gives free tickets to Pilton and Pylle folks, sends those who hate the festival off for a weeks holiday, posts security in peoples gardens while they are away, closes the roads to festival traffic, pays local shops and pubs loss of earnings to close during 'party days' [to limit loitering hippies and unwanted through-traffic], etc etc all to appease the licensing gods. 
Blimey! Didn't know he went to those lengths. You'd have to be a proper sociopath to complain given all that!


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Posted By: jwdrain
Date Posted: 07 July 2013 at 9:15pm
Originally posted by studio45 studio45 wrote:

Originally posted by mk2_ginger_biscuit69 mk2_ginger_biscuit69 wrote:



he already gives free tickets to Pilton and Pylle folks, sends those who hate the festival off for a weeks holiday, posts security in peoples gardens while they are away, closes the roads to festival traffic, pays local shops and pubs loss of earnings to close during 'party days' [to limit loitering hippies and unwanted through-traffic], etc etc all to appease the licensing gods. 

Blimey! Didn't know he went to those lengths. You'd have to be a proper sociopath to complain given all that!


Some people just love complaining more than free money & holidays... :/


Posted By: mk2_ginger_biscuit69
Date Posted: 07 July 2013 at 9:39pm
a certain gentleman in Pylle is a massive pain in the arse, he moved in 1998 to his rather expensive listed farmhouse complex, and has since complained every year refusing to work with the festival, and is the main offsite noise pollution measurement point in regards to the pyramid stage. Without this one gentleman, things would be very very different!! 

That and the old codger who lives by the dairy up on 'concrete road', is in the middle of the festival, by the main sewage plant, who has to have a 24hour 4man security detail outside his home to listen to his ranting and moaning, and give a vehicle escort on and off site whenever he wants to move to avoid any form of queing or 'inconvenience'.

oh well, if people want to play games, glasto have the budget to play along!!



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Posted By: chilli
Date Posted: 07 July 2013 at 10:11pm
Park stage. Eaw.

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