Zoot horn.
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Topic: Zoot horn.
Posted By: jbl_man
Subject: Zoot horn.
Date Posted: 12 July 2013 at 7:21pm
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Not seen a pair of these for 35 years. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VINTAGE-ZOOT-HORN-SPEAKERS-/271235862647?pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudioHiFi_HiFiSpeakers&hash=item3f26ead077" rel="nofollow - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VINTAGE-ZOOT-HORN-SPEAKERS-/271235862647?pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudioHiFi_HiFiSpeakers&hash=item3f26ead077  ------------- Be seeing you. |
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Posted By: VECTORDJ
Date Posted: 12 July 2013 at 8:39pm
| Altec A7 design type but with two ports???? Should be a good midbass box. VECTORDJ |
Posted By: jbl_man
Date Posted: 12 July 2013 at 8:46pm
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Yup,Altec A7/JBL 4560 type of affair,but enormous,4foot x 3 foot x 3 foot. ------------- Be seeing you. |
Posted By: Nachural
Date Posted: 12 July 2013 at 9:28pm
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Now there's a blast from the past! I was demoed a Zoot Horn system some years ago by Alan Cheetham in Manchester (sold mostly studio kit and some PA stuff - anyone remember him?). Well made and very punchy but felt like it had been bolted to the ground! ------------- it's all just cardboard and magnets really |
Posted By: TONY.A.S.S.
Date Posted: 12 July 2013 at 10:25pm
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Definitely a name from the past, Anyone know any history. I only knew them from their ad's in Beat Instrumental ------------- http://www.facebook.com/tony.rossell.3" rel="nofollow - http://www.facebook.com/tony.rossell.3 |
Posted By: Nachural
Date Posted: 13 July 2013 at 12:01am
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Just noticed that they have the matching 2x12 mids up for sale too. Goodmans loaded apparently. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VINTAGE-ZOOT-HORN-SPEAKERS/271235866922?rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D16353%26meid%3D9030202765181316909%26pid%3D100005%26prg%3D7784%26rk%3D3%26sd%3D271235862647%26" rel="nofollow - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VINTAGE-ZOOT-HORN-SPEAKERS/271235866922?rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D16353%26meid%3D9030202765181316909%26pid%3D100005%26prg%3D7784%26rk%3D3%26sd%3D271235862647%26 ------------- it's all just cardboard and magnets really |
Posted By: colint
Date Posted: 13 July 2013 at 4:58am
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The seller also has some awesome vintage Hi-Fi stuff. ------------- Never criticise another man until you've walked a mile in his shoes. Once you have, call him what you like, you're a mile away and you've got his shoes! |
Posted By: jazomir
Date Posted: 13 July 2013 at 9:54am
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There is this on FacelessBook: https://www.facebook.com/ZootHornGear" rel="nofollow - https://www.facebook.com/ZootHornGea r - there are some scans of their brochures/catalogue here. Will keep looking for more stuff.
------------- For sidefills, can we have two enormous things of a type that might be venerated as Gods by the inhabitants of Easter Island, capable of reaching volumes that would make Beelzebub soil his pants. |
Posted By: colint
Date Posted: 13 July 2013 at 10:36am
Interesting reading some of the spec sheets, the B4 system was rated at 1500 watts only but I bet it was as loud as hell, nice post ------------- Never criticise another man until you've walked a mile in his shoes. Once you have, call him what you like, you're a mile away and you've got his shoes! |
jazomir wrote:Posted By: jbl_man
Date Posted: 13 July 2013 at 10:54am
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Nice post Trevor. As Colin says above,i bet that would rip your ears off at 30 feet. Some nice components in there too,4xJBL 2405's on VHF...2 inch radials,ATC on mids,Gauss bass,it didnt come much better than that in the 70's.   ------------- Be seeing you. |
Posted By: colint
Date Posted: 13 July 2013 at 11:05am
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I get the feeling they might have underrated the system power wise I would have thought the bass alone would be 800watts per cab with the Gauss in them but then again that sort of power was almost unheard of back then. I like the smaller A4 system too, this looks almost 4560 based and very similar to a system I had back then except mine was 4560 with Gauss, RCF mid, RCF 1" on a JBL horn and RCF TW105 bullets, sounded great and was the envy of more than a few local Dj's.
------------- Never criticise another man until you've walked a mile in his shoes. Once you have, call him what you like, you're a mile away and you've got his shoes! |
Posted By: jazomir
Date Posted: 13 July 2013 at 11:55am
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Just found these: http://www.desch-audio.de/drop.shop/details.php?id=1174&kategorie=52" rel="nofollow - http://www.desch-audio.de/drop.shop/details.php?id=1174&kategorie=52 and http://www.desch-audio.de/drop.shop/details.php?id=137&kategorie=24" rel="nofollow - http://www.desch-audio.de/drop.shop/details.php?id=137&kategorie=24 . There isn't a lot of info about Zoot Horn - the seach is made more difficult because there is/was an American amplifier manufacturer called Zoot Horn and someone who posts a lot on audio forums who uses the tag Zoot Horn. But I shall continue my search. Remember Google is your friend but you need Boolean logic to use it properly. Edit: I have just read that Hatfield and the North used a Zoot Horn PA system (at least in their early days) so I probably did see & hear a system at one of their gigs. I have also tracked down someone who has more info on Zoot Horn and I am awaiting a response to a post on a forum he hangs out on.
------------- For sidefills, can we have two enormous things of a type that might be venerated as Gods by the inhabitants of Easter Island, capable of reaching volumes that would make Beelzebub soil his pants. |
Posted By: Nachural
Date Posted: 13 July 2013 at 2:04pm
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Fantastic work and much appreciated. Zoot Horn used some nice components by the looks of it. ------------- it's all just cardboard and magnets really |
Posted By: TONY.A.S.S.
Date Posted: 14 July 2013 at 3:03pm
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I've been responsible for more cabs in the past than I care to remember, but that catalogue picture reminds me of one of my bigger moments in the business. It was the design and production of the TRF570 horn. It was my first one in '75 and I'm pleased to say played a fairly important role in transforming the PA business. Today, we are spoilt for choice but back then, there was very little. There was always the 2345, but in those days a Mortgage was needed to purchase them, so their use was limited to the big boys only. The others available were the Celestion horns which I used originally and the RCF4823 which I also used. However, there were box makers who could do stuff but were limited because of the expense of horns. Along comes me with a horn with accurate reproduction that could be bought for £18.50. I used to sell around 60 per week. Everyone seemed to want to use them and it was a good intro into some of the biggest PA companies at the time. Sorry Ifthis seemed like a Hi Jack but that picture brought back memories of exciting times in the business for me. I'm sure many people still use these horns without realizing they are ASS horns. ------------- http://www.facebook.com/tony.rossell.3" rel="nofollow - http://www.facebook.com/tony.rossell.3 |
Posted By: jbl_man
Date Posted: 14 July 2013 at 4:17pm
I agree with you Tony,if it wasnt for your early fibre-glass horns,many of the big sound systems in the 70's and 80's simply wouldn't have existed,as there was no way most of us could afford the 2345 or 2350 imported JBL stuff,you took the 2350,made a fibre glass version that actually sounded better than the original,plonk a Gauss HF4000 on the end,and bingo,better performance than the 2350/2441 combination,at under half the cost.  ------------- Be seeing you. |
Posted By: 4D
Date Posted: 17 October 2017 at 4:30pm
Just found this post, took me wayback to the first real band I worked with called Zzebra when they signed to Polydor ? the advance paid for four stacks of Zoot horn A4 c/w dc300a's on bass and some HH on the rest. Must have been 1973. We had a trusty Ford 7.5t D series and rattled that rig in and out of venues all over the UK and Europe non stop for a good few years. I was backline & monitor boy then and though we all helped on the build it was my oppo Marty Haynes who ran the system. P.A was in its infancy we all learnt by the seat of our pants and watching our peers, afaik the system sounded fine & was reliable enough. It wasn't until much later I got into sound systems as such.. Just thinking about it has me reeling, holy macaroni 40 years back life on the road was different , Blue boar Watford sticks out. Golden diamond club, Newcastle ballroom, Aberystwyth uni, funny the odd names that pop out in ones memories. It's all dissipated into the mists of time, for some reason I think Edwin took it in the end against storage fee's, after the demise I went off and toured with Thunders and the Heartbreakers and that was another whole bunch of munkey business..
------------- DMZ. "The bass was intense. Girls were literally running up to stand next to the subs" |