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Topic: New old quad box.
Posted By: Axis
Subject: New old quad box.
Date Posted: 21 July 2013 at 10:33pm
This is my new quad 18" to match my new valve amps. New production series called Valv-a-tron.



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Reggae music inna velvet earthquake style.



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Posted By: all bass
Date Posted: 21 July 2013 at 10:40pm
I assume this beauty is not build for the road. Lovely looking piece of furniture...


Posted By: Dub Specialist
Date Posted: 21 July 2013 at 10:41pm
Very Very nice, loving the look of Quad box! love to hear it

what drivers is it loaded with? Old Celestions, Goodmans? by any chanceSmile

Valv-a-tron badge nice little touch too 

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treat all creation with respect. For music is sound...sound is vibration...vibration is energy... and energy begets life. Therein lies my passion! MUSIC IS LIFE


Posted By: Axis
Date Posted: 21 July 2013 at 10:44pm


Top amp - my new VALV-A-TRON Tradition 500 valve amp.
Below - original late 70's 600.

Both will be in production to buy soon after full testing/tweaking.


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Posted By: Axis
Date Posted: 21 July 2013 at 10:55pm
The quad is intended for 'road use'. It is heavy, but now has chrome lift handles. It will be supplied with matching low level dolly (plywood with casters under it). You just have to lift the box onto the dolly and push up ramps or onto tail lift, or just do it the old fashioned way if there are steps.
 Its loaded with Fane Crescendo 18"s, original re coned ones from the late 70s, but I am having my own drivers manufactured for further ones.
 Sounds fantastic with matching valve amp, but cannot test to the full as one of the drivers is a Fane Classic and cannot keep up with the Crescendo's. (anybody got a spare Crescendo they want to sell? preferably blown, as will be re coned anyway).
 It wired series parallel (8 ohms) but amp has 8 ohms output and a 4 ohms output (in case you want to link 2 quads.


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Reggae music inna velvet earthquake style.


Posted By: Axis
Date Posted: 21 July 2013 at 11:03pm


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Reggae music inna velvet earthquake style.


Posted By: Dub Specialist
Date Posted: 21 July 2013 at 11:17pm
Very nice! Big smile

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treat all creation with respect. For music is sound...sound is vibration...vibration is energy... and energy begets life. Therein lies my passion! MUSIC IS LIFE


Posted By: Dub Specialist
Date Posted: 22 July 2013 at 12:00am
Fane Crescendo 18"s, 70s originals rare man never seen one let alone get hold of one, had the 12s grey cast hammerite many years ago used to love um

there was a geezer on e-bay (barginsmole) that had a Fane Crescendo 18 Original in some old cabinets
Ended: 29 Jun, 2013 with no bids from your ends as well Sheffield. Maybe yu could get in touch with him you never know worth a try

just to let yu know, good luck with your search for one.


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treat all creation with respect. For music is sound...sound is vibration...vibration is energy... and energy begets life. Therein lies my passion! MUSIC IS LIFE


Posted By: Axis
Date Posted: 22 July 2013 at 8:01am
Thanks for your lead, I will try and chase it up. Yes, its the Hammerite grey ones Im after.

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Reggae music inna velvet earthquake style.


Posted By: Robbo
Date Posted: 22 July 2013 at 8:53am
I have a pair of the old Fane Crescendo Colossus 18" drivers here with grey hammerited chassis and both in perfect working order with good cones in them.


Posted By: Axis
Date Posted: 22 July 2013 at 9:03am
Hi Robbo. I have just messaged you.



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Posted By: CETUS A
Date Posted: 22 July 2013 at 9:39am
Quality work  Clap


Posted By: TONY.A.S.S.
Date Posted: 22 July 2013 at 10:26am
Great stuff here, Is the rest of the system going to match the Bass cabs?

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Posted By: burningbush
Date Posted: 22 July 2013 at 11:53am
Lovely gear. Clap


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Posted By: Axis
Date Posted: 22 July 2013 at 11:58am
Yes Tony. It will all match. When the sound system is completed it will tour nationally and internationally and any component will be available to buy. 

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Reggae music inna velvet earthquake style.


Posted By: Tshu
Date Posted: 22 July 2013 at 3:20pm
Lovely looking box and amps! Can I ask what kind of finish you used? It's very neat :)




Posted By: jbl_man
Date Posted: 22 July 2013 at 3:51pm
What sort of Mid-hi would be used with something like this? I assume an old sectorial type horn,Altec or similar?

But yes,lovely project,well done Sir.


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Posted By: studio45
Date Posted: 22 July 2013 at 4:11pm
Looks great :) Do let me know if it's coming to Sheffield. You're the guy who made the flat pack Supers for Sequoia aren't you?

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Posted By: TONY.A.S.S.
Date Posted: 22 July 2013 at 5:13pm
As a matter of interest, what valves will you use? The top box looks like it has KT88's and your one looks like EL34's or similar.

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Posted By: Axis
Date Posted: 22 July 2013 at 5:42pm
Tony, valves for both amps are KT88s. The amp on the top (my new one) has Russian valves currently available and the amp on the bottom has original GECs. I am still trying out all the currently available valves to find which is best for tone/reliabilty/power.
 My Valv-a-tron Tradition 500 amp is a new circuit design designed for me by my engineer, it is more suitable for modern valves than the standard old GEC circuit used by most big amp builders from back in the day and it has a lot of innovations in it which will be published when prototypes have had good testing over time and I am ready for production.
 I will be building the mid/high box for it soon and developing a stereo version of the Tradition 500 amp to drive mid/top. Your right, Im playing around with Altec multicell horns at the moment (I have a friend who reproduces them), but I have not made my mind up yet. I have another cunning plan up my sleeve.


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Reggae music inna velvet earthquake style.


Posted By: Axis
Date Posted: 22 July 2013 at 5:43pm
Studio - no, Im not that man.



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Posted By: colint
Date Posted: 22 July 2013 at 6:50pm
Awesome looking kit and really nice to see someone doing something that is now original as opposed to the same old boxes which tends to  be a bit boring after a while.
I wish you luck with your project not that I think your going to need it.


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Posted By: Axis
Date Posted: 22 July 2013 at 7:34pm
Thanks Colint. I suppose Im moving forward in going backwards. Im trying to capture the the different kind of sound of my youth, the sound that can only be copied by valve amps/sensitive drivers and big boxes. 
 This project is not strictly about power, its about great old Jamaican music played on great sounding equipment and creating that synergy between operator/dj/selector and their equipment.
 It looks pretty too !. There are more pics of my stuff on my Face Book page 'Paul Axis' in my different photo albums.


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Reggae music inna velvet earthquake style.


Posted By: Sheggy
Date Posted: 22 July 2013 at 7:44pm


Posted By: colint
Date Posted: 22 July 2013 at 7:45pm
Your welcome credit where credit is due and all that.
I too have a love of how thing were done back in the day which is why all our new stuff is done on old principals and strictly all analogue (and hand built) and to be really honest I do think it sounds so much better without all the digital fuss.
I to would love to hear you system when it's finished maybe you should do a Speakerplans member night so we can come along Big smile


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Never criticise another man until you've walked a mile in his shoes. Once you have, call him what you like, you're a mile away and you've got his shoes!


Posted By: Sheggy
Date Posted: 22 July 2013 at 8:01pm
Original piece of six there too!


Posted By: Axis
Date Posted: 22 July 2013 at 8:35pm
Got a piece o' 12 here in my workshop Sheggy, yes you heard me right 1200w valve (24 x Kt88s), in for a service at the moment.
 I have never used anything digital, never appealed to me. My number 1 set (Axis Sound System) is all analogue and will remain so.
 A speakerplans members night, gosh - the friction from all that chin scratching could cause a fire. I suggest Speakerplans members come to my regular nights in Huddersfield, which will be featuring the Valv-a-tron system regularly when it is finished, or catch it on the road sometime.
 Of course, if anyone wants to book the Valv-a-tron sound complete with myself + music, that can arranged too.
 


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Posted By: Dub Specialist
Date Posted: 23 July 2013 at 1:58pm
So Paul, yu  not retiring your Dreadnought set bcus off the new addition?

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treat all creation with respect. For music is sound...sound is vibration...vibration is energy... and energy begets life. Therein lies my passion! MUSIC IS LIFE


Posted By: Axis
Date Posted: 23 July 2013 at 2:08pm
The Dreadnought system will remain, as its been with me for a long time, especially the Orange amps. The TVM amps are being incorporated into a workshop HiFi. A few things may sell off though, not really made my mind up yet.
 


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Reggae music inna velvet earthquake style.


Posted By: Dub Specialist
Date Posted: 23 July 2013 at 2:15pm
Nice!

i seriously love to hear your new Valv-a-tron set when its complete will travel near n far to reach

want to hear some nice ska, rocksteady, boss reggae tune ...

keep up the goods works....ExcellentClap


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treat all creation with respect. For music is sound...sound is vibration...vibration is energy... and energy begets life. Therein lies my passion! MUSIC IS LIFE


Posted By: CETUS A
Date Posted: 23 July 2013 at 6:11pm
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Posted By: Sheggy
Date Posted: 25 July 2013 at 12:48pm
Peeked your FB page and I loved the old gear pics. You are truly deep in this! Massive respects and I will make a point of seeing you sound play one day.

Re. quad boxes, are do these generally have tuned ports or just a hole in the baffle? I've never heard a four face on its own, always seems to be mixed with scoops and such but then there must be variations depending on the builder.

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Posted By: Dub Specialist
Date Posted: 25 July 2013 at 1:33pm
check this out too, wkd pics

http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=axis%20sound%20system" rel="nofollow - http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=axis%20sound%20system
http://www.flickr.com/photos/axissound/page1/" rel="nofollow - http://www.flickr.com/photos/axissound/page1/


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treat all creation with respect. For music is sound...sound is vibration...vibration is energy... and energy begets life. Therein lies my passion! MUSIC IS LIFE


Posted By: Axis
Date Posted: 25 July 2013 at 2:25pm
Sheggy, In the old days, the four faces were not really tuned, just guesswork, but mine is tuned - the volume of the box is exactly right and the port is the right size and depth. So it gives a better output, but keeping the look the same. It also retains the sound that was characteristic of the quad, which is also enhanced by keeping the proper drivers too. 

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Reggae music inna velvet earthquake style.


Posted By: burningbush
Date Posted: 25 July 2013 at 3:23pm
Nice amps in those pics.  Loving the RSD 800b's. 


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Posted By: Dub Specialist
Date Posted: 31 August 2013 at 6:53pm
So Paul , just spotted this on Soundsystem culture so when did you build this is it to go with your Valve-A-Tron, or yu built it for someone else.

buitfull man just love the Vintage look n' style




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treat all creation with respect. For music is sound...sound is vibration...vibration is energy... and energy begets life. Therein lies my passion! MUSIC IS LIFE


Posted By: Axis
Date Posted: 31 August 2013 at 7:26pm
That double 15" mid range has been built for a customer in Italy, to go with his bass boxes, which I have already built. Hi mid/tops boxes next, then export. The tree is his logo.
 The Valv-a- tron mid will be similar, but with some innovation.


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Reggae music inna velvet earthquake style.


Posted By: BigSoundNorthWest
Date Posted: 08 February 2021 at 8:14pm
Originally posted by Axis Axis wrote:

The Dreadnought system will remain, as its been with me for a long time, especially the Orange amps. The TVM amps are being incorporated into a workshop HiFi. A few things may sell off though, not really made my mind up yet.
 

Is the Dreadnought the one the guy from Burnley bought??



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