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Topic: ~30 hz Folded horn
Posted By: polomex
Subject: ~30 hz Folded horn
Date Posted: 26 July 2013 at 9:28pm
Hi guys! I'm quite new to all that DIY game so I come here to ask some help. So me and a friend plan to build folded horn subs to throw some raves here in Montreal. Most of the time, we'll play some heavy dark techno and also drum and bass so we need something that can go in the 30 hz flat. Quality is more important to us than power and i'm not scared to try new things! I see alots of 12" drivers of 2000W+ rms made for cars. I don't know if it's possible, but can we build a folded horn with 2 of theses in it, so we can have a sub of like 4000w+ on its own?



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Posted By: colint
Date Posted: 26 July 2013 at 9:39pm
If that were possible everyone would be doing it forget car speakers unless your putting them in a car.
spend some time and have a read through the various forum posts to get some idea of which direction you want to go and see what drivers are available to you over there. 

Edit: Oh by the way welcome to the forum! Big smile


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Posted By: polomex
Date Posted: 26 July 2013 at 10:23pm
Thanks! :) All-right I'll forget it then. lol I was looking at something like the Super Bass Horn, but it doesn't go low enough. Do you have any recommendations on a plan that go lower? or maybe an extension would do it too?


Posted By: djeddie
Date Posted: 26 July 2013 at 10:55pm
To get 30Hz you'll either need a very, very large cabinet with a very decent driver or use several horn cabinets together.
How many people are you planning on playing to?
What's your budget as well?
Does it have to be folded horn? And if so, why?


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Posted By: MarjanM
Date Posted: 26 July 2013 at 11:50pm
A stack od 6 Labsubs can go to 28Hz.

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Posted By: all bass
Date Posted: 27 July 2013 at 12:42am
Tuba 60 can go to 25hz, not flat though... But being 30x30x60 inch with the mouth on 30x30 side might be impractical in smaller venues.


Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 27 July 2013 at 2:58am
Originally posted by polomex polomex wrote:

Thanks! :) All-right I'll forget it then. lol I was looking at something like the Super Bass Horn, but it doesn't go low enough. Do you have any recommendations on a plan that go lower? or maybe an extension would do it too?


I don't think you need a horn to go down to 30hz for what you want to do. You will be surprised how low 40hz sounds, when you know what you are listening to. Listen to some 'low bass tracks' that you would normally play at these raves while looking at an RTA so you can actually see what frequency these notes are. You probably won't find much under 40hz.


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Posted By: jeff generik
Date Posted: 27 July 2013 at 4:26am
Originally posted by RealitySound RealitySound wrote:

Originally posted by polomex polomex wrote:

Thanks! :) All-right I'll forget it then. lol I was looking at something like the Super Bass Horn, but it doesn't go low enough. Do you have any recommendations on a plan that go lower? or maybe an extension would do it too?


I don't think you need a horn to go down to 30hz for what you want to do. You will be surprised how low 40hz sounds, when you know what you are listening to. Listen to some 'low bass tracks' that you would normally play at these raves while looking at an RTA so you can actually see what frequency these notes are. You probably won't find much under 40hz.

What he said!


Posted By: polomex
Date Posted: 27 July 2013 at 5:05am
Originally posted by MarjanM MarjanM wrote:

A stack od 6 Labsubs can go to 28Hz.
yes theses look great! Except for the little lost of 3db at 40hz :/ but they are very interesting! 

Originally posted by djeddie djeddie wrote:

To get 30Hz you'll either need a very, very large cabinet with a very decent driver or use several horn cabinets together. 
How many people are you planning on playing to? 
What's your budget as well? 
Does it have to be folded horn? And if so, why?
About 200 to 1000 people. Money isn't going to influence greatly here and well i really like the feeling from a folded horn vs a front loaded. So it's just a preferance.

Originally posted by all bass all bass wrote:

Tuba 60 can go to 25hz, not flat though... But being 30x30x60 inch with the mouth on 30x30 side might be impractical in smaller venues.
Ya thoses are HUGE haha! maybe too much but thanks for the share!

Originally posted by RealitySound RealitySound wrote:

I don't think you need a horn to go down to 30hz for what you want to do. You will be surprised how low 40hz sounds, when you know what you are listening to. Listen to some 'low bass tracks' that you would normally play at these raves while looking at an RTA so you can actually see what frequency these notes are. You probably won't find much under 40hz.
mmh i agree for dnb we don't need that low, but for techno (even more with dark techno) there's definitely some tracks that go down to 30hz.


Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 27 July 2013 at 12:17pm
Please post (via youtube links) a couple of these dark techno tracks for me so I can see what you are talking about......Thumbs Up


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Posted By: VECTORDJ
Date Posted: 29 July 2013 at 9:05pm
Bertha(EAW880/882) with the add on flare. Any horn that goes to 30 Hz flat is going to be HUGE. I am still trying to sell my Bertha (one only) . VECTORSONICS  


Posted By: lgosdset
Date Posted: 30 July 2013 at 12:39am
You want a few of these.

http://forum.speakerplans.com/ex-mos-rig-restoration-project_topic74926_page2.html" rel="nofollow - http://forum.speakerplans.com/ex-mos-rig-restoration-project_topic74926_page2.html


Posted By: Sypa
Date Posted: 30 July 2013 at 2:58am
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mmh i agree for dnb we don't need that low, but for techno (even more with dark techno) there's definitely some tracks that go down to 30hz.
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You mean the other way around,techno is kicky above all.Also i realized that lots of new drum&bass production lacks the "real" sub like more oldschool stuff.But its all really relative and quite complicated actually,the actual frequencies of the sub that is.
Build 12 es18bphs lol.


Posted By: michaelb
Date Posted: 19 January 2014 at 4:19am
i'll buy ya bertha...email me


Posted By: michaelb
Date Posted: 19 January 2014 at 4:20am
Originally posted by VECTORDJ VECTORDJ wrote:

Bertha(EAW880/882) with the add on flare. Any horn that goes to 30 Hz flat is going to be HUGE. I am still trying to sell my Bertha (one only) . VECTORSONICS  

email me


Posted By: KidCreole
Date Posted: 19 January 2014 at 10:14am
Originally posted by colint colint wrote:

If that were possible everyone would be doing it forget car speakers unless your putting them in a car.
I have had superb results with car speakers used as PA. Designs were BP and TH


Posted By: Geigertron
Date Posted: 29 January 2014 at 10:25pm
Something like the jth-18 might work ok

I'm quite into tapped horns atm


Posted By: Geigertron
Date Posted: 29 January 2014 at 10:26pm
Or maybe the tham15


Posted By: VECTORDJ
Date Posted: 06 March 2026 at 6:52pm
BERTHA I HAD IS SOLD....



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