lighting software
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Forum Name: Lighting Talk
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Topic: lighting software
Posted By: nuclearbass
Subject: lighting software
Date Posted: 08 August 2013 at 4:12pm
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Hi guys, ive just been looking about on avolites facebook page and noticed they have some software that is basically a computerized screen for when they are pre programming fixtures. any idea if its just their software or is something similar available for most software? cheers rich ------------- one life - have fun! Force fusion pro audio |
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Posted By: norty303
Date Posted: 08 August 2013 at 6:01pm
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Are you referring to a visualiser, or something else? If so, look at Capture Polar or WYSIWYG, but be prepared for a shock on the price. Chamsys has it's own visualiser built in now  Not sure if Avo do too.------------- My laser stuff: http://www.facebook.com/SubsonicSystems" rel="nofollow - Frikkin Lasers |
Posted By: nuclearbass
Date Posted: 08 August 2013 at 6:16pm
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ah, it may well be called a visualizer, from what i could see, it was just a piece of software that was re creating what the lights would be doing, but on a screen... i only use limelight so just wondered if any program would work with that, or each software had its own dedicated "visualizer" ------------- one life - have fun! Force fusion pro audio |
Posted By: nuclearbass
Date Posted: 08 August 2013 at 6:24pm
 i want to be able to do this at home, so i dont have to have the fittings up to program them properly...
Is this just software? or do i need hardware, im only using limlight verse, but would be nice to program my shows like this ------------- one life - have fun! Force fusion pro audio |
Posted By: jacethebase
Date Posted: 09 August 2013 at 12:00am
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That is the avolites visualizer only works with the avolites software. You can program it at home with the free pearl, D4 etc simulator but it will save it in to a format that can only be read by an avo desk. Avolites do various laptop control options but they are professional money. ------------- www.wedding-production.co.uk www.stage2sound.com |
Posted By: nuclearbass
Date Posted: 09 August 2013 at 12:03am
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That's the words I was looking for "professional money" So what's my options for amature money that I can use With limelight? Cheers ------------- one life - have fun! Force fusion pro audio |
Posted By: James Tengo
Date Posted: 09 August 2013 at 2:11am
| Older cracked versions of wyg are out there to be found... |
Posted By: nuclearbass
Date Posted: 09 August 2013 at 9:15am
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I have one. Do I not need hardware ------------- one life - have fun! Force fusion pro audio |
Posted By: jacethebase
Date Posted: 09 August 2013 at 9:18am
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I believe Chamsys does a pretty good visualizer. James? Chamsys PC Dongle is only about £70 ------------- www.wedding-production.co.uk www.stage2sound.com |
Posted By: James Tengo
Date Posted: 09 August 2013 at 9:30am
| I've not used the chamsys visualiser, we pay for (wysi)wyg and capture, it's all about the renders for clients rather than preprogramming, but then I'm old school in my ways, a busk page at festivals is about as far as I get with a desk. It's not the purchase price with wyg that gets you, it's the constant paying for upgrades to the latest version. If you just want to preprogram some bits and dont need all the latest bells and whistles then release 20 is easily found. Regarding the avo visualiser, at Glastonbury on the Arcadia stage Jaz was using capture, not sure of that is an indicator as to which is better. |
Posted By: nuclearbass
Date Posted: 09 August 2013 at 9:40am
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I'd like to stick with limelight if possible as I've only just got my head round it. Will wyg work with limelight? ------------- one life - have fun! Force fusion pro audio |
Posted By: AM55
Date Posted: 09 August 2013 at 10:18am
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Yes I think it will but you will need the DX2 interface at the cost of £400. ------------- https://diy-disco.co" rel="nofollow - Audio Visual Equipment Hire Service |
Posted By: nuclearbass
Date Posted: 09 August 2013 at 11:01am
this is what i was afraid of when i looked at limelights page....... damn expensive ------------- one life - have fun! Force fusion pro audio |
AM55 wrote:Posted By: mini-mad
Date Posted: 09 August 2013 at 11:08am
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400 notes isnt TOO bad... surely you'd pay 300-500 for a single moving head... 4 of those... 250+ for good lasers... PARcans (for wash's & the like) can be 400 for a set of 4-6. for a rig that has cost 1000+ a 400 investment may be worth it. ..you wouldnt put cheap remolds on the van you drive would ya? ------------- If it sounds like a gorilla is trying to escape, turn it down. |
Posted By: nuclearbass
Date Posted: 09 August 2013 at 11:14am
non of my lights cost anywhere near that, i dont think ive taken a job yet where id need somthing that good to seal the deal..... Systems the main thing for me, lightings a little added extra, its just a ball ache having to have the scanners and moving head s out to program them properly, led battons are easily done, but the rest not so ------------- one life - have fun! Force fusion pro audio |
Posted By: supremesoundz
Date Posted: 09 August 2013 at 11:33am
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I think differently in that lighting and visuals are very very important (for me anyway). For the little work I do around my full time job, my clients are more interested in the lighting, led dance floors, projection etc. Recently its beam lighting! Not to say my sound isn't good. It is, however the average Joe wouldn't know the difference between the stuff I have upgraded or changed over the years as it's all been reasonably good quality. With lighting they see the change immediately, literally! |
Posted By: mini-mad
Date Posted: 09 August 2013 at 11:35am
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iv just bought 2x moving head and a single par35 (10mm LED jobbie for testing) and had already bought the Chamsys PC Dongle @ about >>£10<< + software that comes with it but if needs must i will end up paying a little more for good software if needed as i want what im doing to go with a BANG so to speak. the point i, some where in there, was trying to make was if you have spent moneys on a lot of nice lights and that dont use the cheapest soultion you can to control it all. i bought the Chamsys PC Dongle to learn, i'll prob end up with something bigger and better knowing me.... lol all this for my daughters 18th next year.... what we wont do for our kids!!! +1 supremesoundz.. most people want to be dazzled and thats down to what they SEE hence me buying the moving heads.  ------------- If it sounds like a gorilla is trying to escape, turn it down. |
Posted By: nuclearbass
Date Posted: 09 August 2013 at 11:41am
for the jobs i have its the other way around, sound is by far the most important, if thats not of a decent quality then it spoils the night.... my lightong is of an "ok" quality, i did up grade a few bits and it just went un noticed by most, unlike when i added more to the rig that was quite clear.... Any how this is going way off topic as per usual.. Not being happy with my lights isnt my question here it was simply about visualizers etc and how to go about getting one. If its a fact of shelling out a hell of a lot of money then im not interested as its only saving me a pain in the back side and that money could be spent on improving the sound which in my case is the main source of income rig wise ------------- one life - have fun! Force fusion pro audio |
Posted By: norty303
Date Posted: 09 August 2013 at 12:47pm
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You would be better off getting a desk that you can program easily at the gig. For most dance type events, you really don't need to be pre-preparing stuff (or it will already be on the desk from the last job) I can program some worthwhile stuff with movers and pars inside the first record or 2 on Chamsys if need be("quick, power's on, get something playing and lets have some light in here!") ------------- My laser stuff: http://www.facebook.com/SubsonicSystems" rel="nofollow - Frikkin Lasers |
Posted By: supremesoundz
Date Posted: 09 August 2013 at 1:03pm
| Norty, you should hold tutorials for forum members! I'll attend! |
Posted By: nuclearbass
Date Posted: 09 August 2013 at 1:04pm
when i take my lighting out 99.9% of the time its set up the same, so it would just be nice for when i have some spare time to be able to sit and see what I'm programming, give me chance to try new things and see how they look without having to have the lights actually set up... I suppose my programming isnt that quick yet, im still learning alot so as mentioned would be nice to do it at home, but i dont think ill ever be willing to pay £400+ for the novelty ------------- one life - have fun! Force fusion pro audio |
Posted By: mini-mad
Date Posted: 09 August 2013 at 1:29pm
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heres a noval idea..... why not have a lighting "trellis" set up in a room in the house. hang all your lights on it kinda a wall with bars across it just to hang lighting off it. with your laptop/pc you can sit in the room with the rig set up so once its the way you like it all you have to do is box the lights up leaving all the bars on the wall permanetly and the dmx cables left cable tied there. so your only putting the lights in and taking them down wen you need to use them. in fact keep it all in the same room as your rig/gear and the leg/back work it minimal. at least that way you can turn the lights out in the room and see what it looks like from a real perspective as apose to a costly vertual one. ..its what im thinking of doing... +2 on Norty tutorials. i'd even pay ya back with a bit of leg work on a gig some time.. or any of my other skills i have to offer. now theres an idea for a swap shop. swap skills for skillz. no money involved and we all learn something new... just a thought mind. ------------- If it sounds like a gorilla is trying to escape, turn it down. |
Posted By: nuclearbass
Date Posted: 09 August 2013 at 1:35pm
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if i had a lock up big enough i would, im down to a small box room for the office so theres literally no space for that, but it is a good idea.. I'd deffo be up for some lessons of some discript, everything i have in my knowledge box is read of here or self taught ------------- one life - have fun! Force fusion pro audio |
Posted By: mini-mad
Date Posted: 09 August 2013 at 1:43pm
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mine too.... what about two bars hanging from the ceiling? im tring to think of a nice cheap route to being able to set up a few scenes and see what they do using little space but all/most of the lighting rig. im lucky i have nice concrete walls, might look for an old scaffold bar and big ass brackets and bolt the bar to the wall and hang all the lights off it.. well.. all four of them anyway. i know you want to do it all on pc but i think that way is gonna be expensive for it to be any good mate. ------------- If it sounds like a gorilla is trying to escape, turn it down. |
Posted By: James Tengo
Date Posted: 09 August 2013 at 3:37pm
Don't be fooled into thinking that just cause they give their software away for peanuts it's not good... Bigger and better? More chamsys desks out there now on major tours than avolites desks it seems, second only to grandMa in terms of prevelance. Pendulum, Chase and Status, Leftfield, Mumford and sons, Underworld, Elbow, Bonobo, Orbital, Nine Inch Nailsl, Inxs, Human League, WWE wrestling, and many, many more tours all run off chamsys desks |
Posted By: mini-mad
Date Posted: 09 August 2013 at 6:18pm
...ooooh, ok cool. i just bought as i thought it was something cheap to learn with. thanks for the info fella ------------- If it sounds like a gorilla is trying to escape, turn it down. |
Posted By: nuclearbass
Date Posted: 10 August 2013 at 10:32am
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seems theres a possibility i will be diving into the world of chamsy soon ------------- one life - have fun! Force fusion pro audio |
Posted By: mini-mad
Date Posted: 10 August 2013 at 10:41am
for the £12 it looked like a good deal to me. its just the software is a little ugly dont get me wrong i bought it and am starting to play with it now so good luck to both of us! lol ------------- If it sounds like a gorilla is trying to escape, turn it down. |
Posted By: nuclearbass
Date Posted: 10 August 2013 at 11:01am
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thats the basic one with limited hours per show? ------------- one life - have fun! Force fusion pro audio |
Posted By: norty303
Date Posted: 10 August 2013 at 11:05am
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I think the software is probably better described as functional rather than ugly. If you want you can change the button icons and colours. Remember, it is not lighting software as such, it is the software that runs the desks. As such, it works more like a dedicated piece of hardware than specific lighting software does. ------------- My laser stuff: http://www.facebook.com/SubsonicSystems" rel="nofollow - Frikkin Lasers |
Posted By: mini-mad
Date Posted: 10 August 2013 at 11:27am
yes. ------------- If it sounds like a gorilla is trying to escape, turn it down. |
Posted By: nuclearbass
Date Posted: 10 August 2013 at 11:38am
i dont follow norty ? ------------- one life - have fun! Force fusion pro audio |
Posted By: James Tengo
Date Posted: 10 August 2013 at 12:08pm
| The chamsys software was designed to run on Linux on their desks, the pc version is an adaptation of that, rather than a piece of software designed specifically to be run on a pc. As such to get the best experience from it you really want to have their hardwear, an actual desk, not just a fader wing or output dongle. If they were designing a piece of software to be run off a pc then the GUI would be very different, as the GUI is designed to look like their desks. |
Posted By: nuclearbass
Date Posted: 10 August 2013 at 12:47pm
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ah right i see, is there anything you cant do on the software that you can do on there desks? ------------- one life - have fun! Force fusion pro audio |
Posted By: James Tengo
Date Posted: 10 August 2013 at 3:33pm
| There is no "dongle" for chamsys as such, but their desk hardwear does unlock some features, such as the remote app for smartphones & tablets, the midi interface unlocks midi and time code, and the audio interface (and i think the new pc wing) unlocks the audio triggering. You can download their software and spit a full 32 (might be 64 now) universes of artnet out of the pc ethernet port without having to buy a single item from them, that is pretty unique for a desk manufacturer! Chris Kenedy knows how to get people hooked on his product |
Posted By: nuclearbass
Date Posted: 10 August 2013 at 4:10pm
sounds complicated ------------- one life - have fun! Force fusion pro audio |
Posted By: James Tengo
Date Posted: 10 August 2013 at 5:16pm
| Not really, 1 DMX universe = 512 ch of control, so with 64 universes you can control 32,768 channels of lights. Art net is a standard for sending DMX data over Ethernet cables. Once you understand the concept of multiplexing... Go google that one |
Posted By: mini-mad
Date Posted: 10 August 2013 at 5:51pm
Nuke, i think for what the bigger boys are talking about a single universe should be quite enuff for us  i only have 2 moving heads at i think 12 channels and 4 par cans at 4 channels each soooooo... 40 channels is all i need. no where near the 512 a single universe will easily handle. so im guessing dont worry about universes till youve got a dozon pars half a dozon scanners another dozon lazers and a haze machine or two running off of one "lighting desk"
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Posted By: James Tengo
Date Posted: 10 August 2013 at 6:26pm
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Tonight's gig at the openair festival just outside of Prague uses 5 universes for the house rig and 12 universes for our "floor package" Ed Warren is by far leading the way with Mumford and Sons, 56 universes at Glastonbury, on that free bit of software you have ;-) http://www.chamsys.co.uk/mumfordsglastonbury2013" rel="nofollow - http://www.chamsys.co.uk/mumfordsglastonbury2013 |
Posted By: nuclearbass
Date Posted: 10 August 2013 at 6:34pm
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all this pre programmed on a visualizer?
and i only use 90 channels myself lol ------------- one life - have fun! Force fusion pro audio |
Posted By: James Tengo
Date Posted: 10 August 2013 at 7:09pm
| Nope, Haydn the ld (owner of coloursound experiment) programs fresh every festival, as each house rig is different. Our "floor package" stays the same, so that is already in the desk. If he's quick he can be programmed in an hour, and the show is "busked" live. 11 universes of the floor package come from a hippo media server pixel mapping 1632 rgb led's, which is controlled from the lighting desk using only 10 DMX channels. Work smarter, not harder! |
Posted By: supremesoundz
Date Posted: 10 August 2013 at 8:09pm
"Work smarter, not harder" I'll remember and use that one! |
Posted By: nuclearbass
Date Posted: 10 August 2013 at 10:14pm
When you was programming your floor package did you use visualiser or have them set out? ------------- one life - have fun! Force fusion pro audio |
Posted By: jacethebase
Date Posted: 10 August 2013 at 11:36pm
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Don't forget guys you can get 20+ high end moving heads on one universe if you need too! I generally run 3 universes. 1 x movers 1 x LED 1 x Dimmers and additional ones for each truss up the room (if inside) Very rarely do I get close to any where near my channel count. Most jobs I do I doubt we are over 512 channels. I have a Chamsys dongle and for the £60-70 it costs it offers a unbeatable level of control. I Just don't like the fact it's not a lighting desk. Feel like an MP3 DJ sat behind a laptop hitting keys. I like to get involved with my light show, faders all over the place, busking live etc etc hence why I'm still on a Pearl. J ------------- www.wedding-production.co.uk www.stage2sound.com |
Posted By: James Tengo
Date Posted: 11 August 2013 at 3:08am
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Set out, at the first gig of the run. Get behind a MQ 300 jace and you'll never want to touch a pearl again! They are really buskable, and if you don't know how to do something on it then give it a try, there are so many ways of using it (many syntax permutations) that whatever you try normally will work. 4am here, was a cracking gig but flight home in 3 hours so time to grab some shut eye Night |
Posted By: nuclearbass
Date Posted: 11 August 2013 at 9:26am
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I wouldn't have time to programme every event as we only do small job really so loa in times are to a minimum, after rigging up and sound checking its normally time to go. Didn't know about the visualiser until I seen avo lights. So I suppose for me now I'm going to go down the bath if the most budget software and dongle that will enable me to use a visualiser. Isit possible to d.l the chamsy software and programme on a visualiser without buying the dongle or having a desk as this will en able me to see if its for me before plunging in head 1st and buying something ------------- one life - have fun! Force fusion pro audio |
Posted By: mini-mad
Date Posted: 11 August 2013 at 11:11am
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you cant download the software til you have bought the dongle fella.... ------------- If it sounds like a gorilla is trying to escape, turn it down. |
Posted By: nuclearbass
Date Posted: 11 August 2013 at 11:26am
ah right i see, its not free then isit? ------------- one life - have fun! Force fusion pro audio |
Posted By: mini-mad
Date Posted: 11 August 2013 at 11:33am
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its "free" wen you pay for the dongle lol ... no its not free... lol ------------- If it sounds like a gorilla is trying to escape, turn it down. |
Posted By: nuclearbass
Date Posted: 11 August 2013 at 11:41am
some one mentioned further back that it was free? sure it was james ------------- one life - have fun! Force fusion pro audio |
Posted By: mini-mad
Date Posted: 11 August 2013 at 11:42am
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... what i think you just have to register, hold on.................... ------------- If it sounds like a gorilla is trying to escape, turn it down. |
Posted By: mini-mad
Date Posted: 11 August 2013 at 11:44am
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yep. just register and away ya go.... what you gonna do with no usb-dmx lead as theres no visuals at all on the software? ------------- If it sounds like a gorilla is trying to escape, turn it down. |
Posted By: nuclearbass
Date Posted: 11 August 2013 at 11:47am
doesnt it have a built it visualiser? ------------- one life - have fun! Force fusion pro audio |
Posted By: mini-mad
Date Posted: 11 August 2013 at 11:56am
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no. its ugly to boot... ------------- If it sounds like a gorilla is trying to escape, turn it down. |
Posted By: nuclearbass
Date Posted: 11 August 2013 at 12:53pm
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oh, i thought it did?? thats why ive been asking about it:/ ------------- one life - have fun! Force fusion pro audio |
Posted By: James Tengo
Date Posted: 11 August 2013 at 7:11pm
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http://www.chamsys.co.uk/magicvis" rel="nofollow - http://www.chamsys.co.uk/magicvis From their manual 5. Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) How much does it cost? Just like MagicQ, MagicVis is FREE. FREE to download and FREE to use. Do I need a MagicQ wing or interface attached? No, you can run the visualisation on your PC or Mac without any MagicQ wings or interfaces. How many fixtures can I visualise? This depends entirely on the power of your graphics card and processor. Our standard demo shows have 500 fixtures and render fine on a mid range graphics card. Can I add custom set pieces, or import via dxf or dwg? This is not currently supported, but we expect to add it in future versions. Can MagicVis be used with any lighting console? Yes, MagicVis can be used with any lighting console that outputs ArtNet. This will enable you to visualise the outputs of that console. Note that the visualisation layout (patching and positioning of heads) must first be set up in MagicQ and the resulting show file loaded into MagicVis. Can MagicQ consoles run visualisation on the console? No, it is not practical to run lighting visualisation on lighting consoles as the graphics and processor power required would interfere with the normal lighting operation. |
Posted By: nuclearbass
Date Posted: 11 August 2013 at 7:31pm
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Thanks james So the answer to my question is yes? I can d.l, programme some lights and use the visualiser without buying a dongle or having a desk? Once I'm happy it's what I want I'll then buy a dongle. ------------- one life - have fun! Force fusion pro audio |
Posted By: azlan
Date Posted: 12 August 2013 at 11:24am
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yes, you can do exactly that, Although, If I were you, I would try and do the programming on a computer with 2 displays, one for the desk and one for the visualizer (it opens its own window) although its not needed, it makes it a bit easier I find ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/azlan121/?chartstyle=basicrt10" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: norty303
Date Posted: 12 August 2013 at 12:47pm
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You can actually run the viz on a completely different machine on the network. P.S. you don't even need to use a Chamsys dongle. However, their 5hr limited one, and even the full functioning one are still the cheapest route of entry (used to be the Enttec Pro, which is probably why chamsys made their own, to ensure they get that market share)
. <-- the point You are here --> . ------------- My laser stuff: http://www.facebook.com/SubsonicSystems" rel="nofollow - Frikkin Lasers |
Posted By: nuclearbass
Date Posted: 12 August 2013 at 12:55pm
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right got the chamsy software up, patched my vixtures, pressed the viz button, it says its open at the bottom on my windows bar, but theres nothing on my screen at all ------------- one life - have fun! Force fusion pro audio |
Posted By: norty303
Date Posted: 12 August 2013 at 1:02pm
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Does the default position of the viz window try to go to a second monitor? I haven't used the viz yet, but have you read the documentation? ------------- My laser stuff: http://www.facebook.com/SubsonicSystems" rel="nofollow - Frikkin Lasers |
Posted By: azlan
Date Posted: 12 August 2013 at 1:04pm
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http://download.magicq.co.uk/download_file.php?file_id=101&type=doc" rel="nofollow - http://download.magicq.co.uk/download_file.php?file_id=101&type=doc have a read of that? its the manual for the visualizer
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Posted By: nuclearbass
Date Posted: 12 August 2013 at 1:15pm
yes had a read throu the vis manual, and set it to just one monitor, still cant see the visualiser ------------- one life - have fun! Force fusion pro audio |
Posted By: nuclearbass
Date Posted: 12 August 2013 at 1:20pm
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restarted software and visualizers come up no, but seems to have a glitch http://s1135.photobucket.com/user/nuclearbass1/media/Fullscreencapture12082013131855_zpsdca3c352.png.html" rel="nofollow">  ------------- one life - have fun! Force fusion pro audio |
Posted By: nuclearbass
Date Posted: 12 August 2013 at 2:10pm
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finally managed to get it working, had to re install it... got the scanners working on there but the led battons and laser are well out programme wise they dont do what they should. Is there a way of moving the fixtures about ? ------------- one life - have fun! Force fusion pro audio |
Posted By: James Tengo
Date Posted: 12 August 2013 at 2:45pm
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Positioning the heads in the visualisation When you patch heads, they automatically become selected, so that in Patch, View Vis, View Selected you will have direct control of the positioning and orientation of the head using the encoder wheels and soft buttons. Encoders X, Y and F are used for X,Y and Z positioning. Pressing the soft buttons X, Y and F increases the position by 1 metre on that axis. Pressing SHIFT + the soft button decreases the position by 1 metre on that axis. Use fan to spread the position apart on the X,Y, or Z position wheels.
Encoders B, C and D are used for rotation around the X, Y and Z axis.
Pressing the soft buttons B, C and D rotates the heads by 90 degrees around that axis. Pressing SHIFT + the soft button rotates the heads by – 90 degrees around that axis. You can also enter values directly into the spreadsheet view of the Patch, View Vis window. You can change multiple values at a time by using SHIFT/CTRL and the cursor keys. Use THRU to enter a spread of values e.g. -5 THRU 5 to spread the X position between -5 and 5 metres. |
Posted By: nuclearbass
Date Posted: 12 August 2013 at 2:57pm
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i could do with a chamsys work shop for a few sessions ------------- one life - have fun! Force fusion pro audio |
Posted By: mini-mad
Date Posted: 12 August 2013 at 4:25pm
...not without me ya' not pal!! i dont get to play with it for another week  ------------- If it sounds like a gorilla is trying to escape, turn it down. |
Posted By: nuclearbass
Date Posted: 12 August 2013 at 4:26pm
ive had a go on the software with the youtube videos, the guy could put a glass eye to sleep lol..... The software like they say just emulates the desk and doesnt seem very user friendly ------------- one life - have fun! Force fusion pro audio |
Posted By: mini-mad
Date Posted: 12 August 2013 at 4:31pm
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as said and pointed out (or off point lol) its UGLY. ... ------------- If it sounds like a gorilla is trying to escape, turn it down. |
Posted By: nuclearbass
Date Posted: 12 August 2013 at 8:28pm
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Currently playing about with mydmx which has a visualiser, seems good, basic bit does what I need so far ------------- one life - have fun! Force fusion pro audio |
Posted By: t0m
Date Posted: 13 August 2013 at 12:00am
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Stick with MagicQ! It may seem hard at the moment, but it gets easier and is by far the MOST powerful tool you can use. If you have the time contact tony @ chamsys.co.uk. He arranges the FREE training days at their offices down in Southampton. They are very helpful and in one day you can get all the skills you need to run a show nicely. In two days you can be pixel mapping and be very confident. Their visualiser takes a little bit to get used to, but it works very well imho. Also as with most of Chamsys it works better if you have some of the hardware, but it works with most USB DMX dongles as well. //t0m ------------- http://www.microrave.biz PA/Sound/Staging/Lighting & Laser Hire for London & the whole of the UK |
Posted By: nuclearbass
Date Posted: 13 August 2013 at 12:28am
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If I lived a little closer I'd jump at the chance for a free workshop ------------- one life - have fun! Force fusion pro audio |
Posted By: nuclearbass
Date Posted: 13 August 2013 at 5:51pm
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Just been reading up on a forum that i can also get lime light to work with a Magic 3D Easy View DMX in dongle But have been un able to find one of these anywhere online, can any one point m ein the right direction? ------------- one life - have fun! Force fusion pro audio |
Posted By: nuclearbass
Date Posted: 13 August 2013 at 6:00pm
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seems ive found it, http://www.bluearan.co.uk/index.php?id=SUNSLMEV" rel="nofollow - http://www.bluearan.co.uk/index.php?id=SUNSLMEV whsy everything so damn expensive! ------------- one life - have fun! Force fusion pro audio |
Posted By: norty303
Date Posted: 13 August 2013 at 6:43pm
Why does everyone expect complex software and some hardware development to come for free! I think we are spoilt these days. Time was that a desk of the functionality you could get from Chamsys with a full dongle (~£60) would cost you £2k+ on the 2nd user market. Hell, I was over the moon to get my Chamsys wing/PC setup for what I paid for it. The alternatives were significantly more scary. It is odd to me that people are happy spending £2k+ on a sound desk to run their expensive speakers, but not happy to spend a similar amount to run their equally expensive lights. ------------- My laser stuff: http://www.facebook.com/SubsonicSystems" rel="nofollow - Frikkin Lasers |
Posted By: nuclearbass
Date Posted: 13 August 2013 at 6:50pm
i don't spend 2k on a desk norty, i don't spend a whole lot of money on much, i've bargained and begged to get my rig where it is, if i was running thousands of pounds worth of lights then maybe id take the plunge. I was willing to buy a chamsys dongle but after spending a day and half with the interface and youtube videos i couldnt get on with it, id go as far as to say it bored the living day lights out of me. so ive decided id rather stick with limelight as its got what i need, i know my way around it and it isn't as complex... It just baffles me of the price i'm going to have to pay for a visualizer, upto £200 then maybe, but £400 for the DX2 when all i want it for is the viz isn't really worth it for me. ------------- one life - have fun! Force fusion pro audio |
Posted By: norty303
Date Posted: 13 August 2013 at 11:08pm
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It's not really that baffling why they are so expensive. The market is small and the development time and skills high. So unit costs are high. IMO you haven't spent enough time with Chamsys to reach enlightenment ;) ------------- My laser stuff: http://www.facebook.com/SubsonicSystems" rel="nofollow - Frikkin Lasers |
Posted By: nuclearbass
Date Posted: 13 August 2013 at 11:27pm
Enlightenment lol. I guess I don't like using a proper desk, got to uses to limelight and how simple and easy to learn it is. After spending a fair few hours 5-6 for 2 days with it I did get massively boated, and it wasn't something I'd be confident in trying to pass on to the guy that helps me ------------- one life - have fun! Force fusion pro audio |
Posted By: nuclearbass
Date Posted: 02 September 2013 at 10:28pm
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Would limelight software work with a mydmx interface ? ------------- one life - have fun! Force fusion pro audio |