186 or USB or ... ?
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Topic: 186 or USB or ... ?
Posted By: alanstar
Subject: 186 or USB or ... ?
Date Posted: 17 September 2013 at 3:15pm
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Hey all, I've got labhorns and I'm looking to build something to go between them and possible res3sh so I would want it do from around 60 to 200hz ... how does the 186 sound in the upper ranges ? On the description its stated as being very musical/hi fidelity, does this hold true for the upper frequencies ? Thanks !
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Posted By: corell
Date Posted: 17 September 2013 at 3:55pm
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No 186 for that range! To big and wont go that high. Also no need to go lower than ~90 Hz, if you got labs underneath. Any 15" BPH should work fine. Try to simulate something in hornresp, search for limmer 115 or ask bee about his new cabs. |
Posted By: Meat
Date Posted: 17 September 2013 at 4:02pm
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USB was designed for exactly this. The dimensions fit so it looks neat and it sounds good when properly set up. ------------- Don't test the champignon sound |
Posted By: alanstar
Date Posted: 17 September 2013 at 4:07pm
| I prefer to cut the labs at around 60hz as they just seem to sound best there, otherwise you have to eq a lot of the upper sub freq out of them, so I'd really prefer to find a design that will go down to 60 or 70. |
Posted By: b grade
Date Posted: 17 September 2013 at 5:05pm
| 186 will certainly go down to 60, but like stated before, use of a 15 for kick would give a faster cleaner sound, and probably a more manageable size too. |
Posted By: alanstar
Date Posted: 17 September 2013 at 5:08pm
| Yes, I was originally thinking about using a 15 or a 12 as well. |
Posted By: corell
Date Posted: 17 September 2013 at 6:42pm
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That was my thought aswell. I dont like the idea to use 18" for that range, if you are not after a one-bass solution and need it to go as low as possible (USB). Tell my a size and a budget (i guess its not that tight, as your after some f1 tops^^) and i´ll sim a 15" bph against a 12" or 2x12" bph. |
Posted By: Mark James
Date Posted: 17 September 2013 at 7:58pm
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Labs 30-80 res 3 low from there id check settings ------------- me so horny me love you long throw horn loaded for her pleasure |
Posted By: corell
Date Posted: 17 September 2013 at 8:11pm
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I tried a 15" BPH, 60 x 57 x 60 cm (i think labs are 57 cm wide?) with PD 158. Would be a really easy build, 106 db/w/m, -3db points are 70 and 200 Hz when you use 4 of them. I will post plan and sim when i know how to do it. |
Posted By: all bass
Date Posted: 17 September 2013 at 8:19pm
Would be very impressive to see a new bph design, with those specs, made up in only 2,5 hours. |
corell wrote:Posted By: corell
Date Posted: 18 September 2013 at 1:24am
http://imageshack.com/i/g4w7wlp" rel="nofollow"> Uploaded with http://imageshack.com" rel="nofollow - ImageShack.com 2 pi simulation is not that impressive, will try to improve it tomorrow. And i am going to sim some other drivers in that. The bracing in the backchamber is not necessary, i added it to decrease displacement, i would juse it for the door. |
Posted By: alanstar
Date Posted: 18 September 2013 at 2:08am
Hi Mark, I'm planning on using the R3SH because I think I would rather have a separate 2x 15" horn than the 1x 18" horn in the R3. A block of 8 labs sounds best cut at around 60hz imo.
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Posted By: corell
Date Posted: 18 September 2013 at 2:14am
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Drivers with a little lower BL factor seem to be smoother: http://imageshack.com/i/npiopqp" rel="nofollow">  Uploaded with http://imageshack.com" rel="nofollow - ImageShack.com |
Posted By: Mark James
Date Posted: 18 September 2013 at 8:55am
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Ahh I missed the h have you looked into the sellenium hb 1505c1? ------------- me so horny me love you long throw horn loaded for her pleasure |
Posted By: T-Bone
Date Posted: 08 January 2014 at 4:33pm
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Hi corell any new development on this build was thinking about the F215 the other day and saw this on speakerplans. Can I use a Faital Pro neo 15" on this design if you have the sims for it?Thanks! ------------- BASS, how low can you go! |
Posted By: Mark James
Date Posted: 09 January 2014 at 10:34pm
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seriously hb1505c1 in this case 80hz upwards absolute winner got a pair of double vrsions ourselves :P epic :-] ------------- me so horny me love you long throw horn loaded for her pleasure |
Posted By: corell
Date Posted: 09 January 2014 at 11:18pm
have you forgotten about that one ? ;) : http://forum.speakerplans.com/another-15-bph_topic82127_page1.html |
Posted By: corell
Date Posted: 09 January 2014 at 11:25pm
of course if you have the space, long straight horns are epic ! :D do you have some pics mark? |