7 x HH V800
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Topic: 7 x HH V800
Posted By: burningbush
Subject: 7 x HH V800
Date Posted: 09 December 2013 at 3:25pm
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Some guy has seven hh v800 for sale on the bay, they have been rebadged but... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/power-amplifiers-7-Metro-Audio-2400-HH-V800-/141134190271?pt=UK_MusicalInstr_Amplifiers_RL&hash=item20dc40d6bf  ------------- music is the message |
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Posted By: Dub Specialist Sound
Date Posted: 09 December 2013 at 4:09pm
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Totaly re-housed and modded more like , nice tho.. anyone knows whats going that orther 3rd pot-knob ------------- Musical Roots Reggae Vibration is Life! for music is sound...sound is vibration...vibration is energy... and energy begets life. Therein lies my passion!...MUSIC IS LIFE... |
Posted By: mini-mad
Date Posted: 09 December 2013 at 4:11pm
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prob a front mounted fused holder..... at a guess ------------- If it sounds like a gorilla is trying to escape, turn it down. |
Posted By: burningbush
Date Posted: 09 December 2013 at 4:13pm
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Fuse. ------------- music is the message |
Posted By: Mhamplification
Date Posted: 09 December 2013 at 4:19pm
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Just up the road from me Think its worth a bid Look more like a M900 than a V800 though No VU meters |
Posted By: burningbush
Date Posted: 09 December 2013 at 4:23pm
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Yeah, defo install m900. Seems to have other stuff so could well be worth a trip to have a rake. ------------- music is the message |
Posted By: Dub Specialist Sound
Date Posted: 09 December 2013 at 5:00pm
Cant be a fuse/holder ect the position of the pot is in different positions, bridge knob that would be cool , saves taken the lid of these bad-boyswould love to have a look inside one... ------------- Musical Roots Reggae Vibration is Life! for music is sound...sound is vibration...vibration is energy... and energy begets life. Therein lies my passion!...MUSIC IS LIFE... |
Posted By: jbl_man
Date Posted: 09 December 2013 at 5:15pm
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Im sorry,but if those are HH v800's then i'm a chinaman. I spotted these a few days ago,look more like a Harrison X900 type affair,or an Avitec install job. ------------- Be seeing you. |
Posted By: oldskool
Date Posted: 09 December 2013 at 5:22pm
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Ian, you beat me to it by 5 minutes. Looks like cinema amps to me but I just cant remember the manufacturer. ------------- Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies |
Posted By: Muckerbarnes1
Date Posted: 09 December 2013 at 10:06pm
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Badged as Metro. Hmm. Agree look more Harrison. Looks like Harrison type LED VU meters above gain pots. In which case what is the 3rd knob?? A proper rack too. BSS OPal, C-Audio SR and a GB series amp. So I'm going for Harrison X series Ian :) ------------- Billy Dawg. |
Posted By: Muckerbarnes1
Date Posted: 09 December 2013 at 10:24pm
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Can you speaky Mandarin meester Ian? Harrisons X series were in a 3U case. Older HH were 4U. Those Metro's look 4U..... Hmm... ------------- Billy Dawg. |
Posted By: jbl_man
Date Posted: 10 December 2013 at 8:54am
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The only way to settle this is for someone to buy them,and open them up.If they go for a tenner each,then no problem,but you certainly wouldn't want to be paying hundreds of pounds for them. ------------- Be seeing you. |
Posted By: Mhamplification
Date Posted: 10 December 2013 at 3:31pm
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Ive put £120 on them If I get them I will post some pics of the insides They must be worth that much only cause its only 20 miles up the road from me |
Posted By: mini-mad
Date Posted: 10 December 2013 at 4:49pm
fair play.... might be worth a bit in "installs" keeping local pubs/bars/civic halls happy. ------------- If it sounds like a gorilla is trying to escape, turn it down. |
Mhamplification wrote:Posted By: burningbush
Date Posted: 10 December 2013 at 5:09pm
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Well the T03 should be worth something as worst case scenario. ------------- music is the message |
Posted By: jbl_man
Date Posted: 10 December 2013 at 5:50pm
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Wonder if they are even MosFet? ------------- Be seeing you. |
Posted By: Pin2Hot
Date Posted: 10 December 2013 at 6:24pm
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Jbl man I think you're on the right track. As I remember it Metro Audio was one of C-Audios brands, they obviously built amps, but were also manufacturing talkback systems and even distributing smoke fluid! Going by the four mounting bolts on the front panel, I'd say they were the same model (CA4?) that was used for the original Avitec Beta 800 and Rauch Powerblock 44, Big laminated transformer with 4 pairs of To3 Hitachi FETs per channel, must be nearly thirty years old, after a cleanout and a recap they'd probably be good for another thirty. |
Posted By: jbl_man
Date Posted: 10 December 2013 at 6:37pm
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Yup,i thought the graphics and layout of the front panel resembled the early Avitec Beta's. Probually good solid amps if that is the case. (C-Audio built?) But clearly not a V800 or HH at all. ------------- Be seeing you. |
Posted By: jbl_man
Date Posted: 10 December 2013 at 6:43pm
Avitec Beta 800 interior.  ------------- Be seeing you. |
Posted By: Muckerbarnes1
Date Posted: 10 December 2013 at 6:58pm
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I have an Avitec Beta which a a C=Audio RA3000 in a 3U case. Also have Avitec Beta 300 which was brown and is more like the above. ------------- Billy Dawg. |
Posted By: SMP
Date Posted: 10 December 2013 at 7:19pm
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I have lots of Rauch even PB44's none to my knowledge used lam trannies or TO3 devices but toroids and J83 K228 Flatpak only DVT 300S used TO3 I even have working yes WORKING!!! ( But SMP'd) DVT500S and they were flatpaks too 16/ch 1400W4R PER CH just another design Phil Rimmer messed up |
Posted By: Pin2Hot
Date Posted: 10 December 2013 at 8:09pm
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Hmm, I crewed on a tour in the mid eighties with an Entec supplied Martin RS1200 system that was powered by racks of powerblock 44's. A couple of weeks later I was shown the new range of amplifiers that Avitec were having manufactured for them, I couldn't help to notice the (identical) back panels and similar front panels. I've seen the inside of plenty of the Avitec amps, but never saw the inside of the Rauch amps and assumed that they had the same internals. SMP have you got any pictures of the PB44 internals, to compare the similarities / differences, maybe your amps are newer models than the ones I remember lugging around all those years ago. |
Posted By: SMP
Date Posted: 10 December 2013 at 8:25pm
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I can post some but they are out doing what they should at present (earning rental) but one is a floater/spare that will return lwhen it is swapped out for the amp it replaced temporarily So will take some incidentally they use a "Heat Exchanger called a "Pinfin" the only thing Phil Rimmer/Pantechnic did get right still basically the "Hitachi" Topology just uses a "Flatpak" called "HPAK" Hitachi 2SJ50 2SK135 Die in a different package. Apparently quite a rare find and sell for over £40 each as a spare I have a 100 or so here nice new ones since 85 as well a a few boxes of TO3 Hitachi |
Posted By: jbl_man
Date Posted: 10 December 2013 at 8:25pm
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Didnt the Rauch amps have that peculiar hedgehog type heatsink? ------------- Be seeing you. |
Posted By: SMP
Date Posted: 10 December 2013 at 8:27pm
Indeed a "Pinfin" designed by Pantechnic back in the 80's |
Posted By: Pin2Hot
Date Posted: 10 December 2013 at 11:42pm
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As I remember it, when HH got into trouble Rauch was set up by someone called Jerry? I believe he'd been involved in sales at HH, as I remember there being quite a slick marketing campaign. It looks like a few different firms had a hand in the design and manufacture of their products, as in addition to C- Audio and Pantechnic I'm pretty certain Ben Duncan also had a hand in some of the designs. |
Posted By: Nachural
Date Posted: 11 December 2013 at 12:03am
Absolutely right, at one time in addition to selling modules
Phil Rimmer would also sell you the Pin Fin heatsink. It was a fairly substantial
aluminium casting and presumably the same one that was used in Rauch DVT’s. ------------- it's all just cardboard and magnets really |
Posted By: SMP
Date Posted: 11 December 2013 at 12:16am
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yes BD got involved in development of the SRS SMPS though does not actually switch and yes again a fair few people involved at various points. It eventually became MST Rauch I sold them used them fixed them. no idea where Charlie Sapelsa went he was last owner of it P600 were great very light 2U package SMPS is nothing new classTD by Labgruppen just a further development of the tech as are so many others |
Posted By: Muckerbarnes1
Date Posted: 11 December 2013 at 2:15am
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Ooo. Hedge hog heatsinks. I also made a pattern ( yes, me) to cast heatsinks to keep our FET amps cool. ( lower RDs-on ect ) These made a noticeable difference to our 1450W/ch FET amps of the day, circa 1992. More grunt than anything we had tested. Dual die TO3's from Semi-lab. Never seen inside a Rauch, but meester SMP you'll be happy with yer Matrix amps. They just work. As posted before, Dave Collins (Austin Armstrong) tried to get me to go and play in Cambridge for a while to race tune his amps. I never went. Too busy. Dave was a great guy. Great days. ------------- Billy Dawg. |
Posted By: SMP
Date Posted: 11 December 2013 at 11:12pm
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I will post some internals from my "Museum" of older amps sadly some are not readily available too far away in storage but a photo of my shed which used to be full with piles of Quad II's would have raised a few smiles instead they raised a fair few quid instead a few years back. Austin Amrstrong had a few of those racked up for Mons when the Turner racks were a bit lacking grunt for the job ok but never been a fan of "Highside" myself bloody zeners used to pop on them a lot. still have one somewhere a 4chx600W with "Popped" Zeners of course. I do need to put on a "Thermal dynamics Hat" soonish to design an exchanger for some amps I intend to produce. I know zip about castings though but just a learning curve Yes the Matrix arrived no chance to listen to right now maybe next few days will hook them up. do a comparison to Adyton XP3 & Rauch DVT300S & Turner grab a Labgruppen of a mate for reference Have to find a "Doo Doo" one for comparing it to junk got a C-Audio will do somewhere |
Posted By: SMP
Date Posted: 12 December 2013 at 7:29pm
 well well surprise surprise they are indeed not V800 let alone M900 but Avitec Beta 800's I hope nobody bid too high from here amazing how some sellers either have not a clue or are a little bit dodgy !!!! |
Posted By: Mhamplification
Date Posted: 12 December 2013 at 7:51pm
Thanks for letting me know I have been outbid now anyway Even so I think 7 of these amps would have been worth £120 If I had of won a case would have to of been opened with Ebay for false description as they clearly are nothing like a V800 or in fact any H/H amp at all |
Posted By: SMP
Date Posted: 12 December 2013 at 8:02pm
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no worries this is one time where me being the "Anal" sod I am pays off still the "Feel the Bass" posse can kiss my A%*" As I always say "People who think they know everything, make us that do look bad" I wonder who is gonna up with this pile of crud go all the way to Sunderland to collect and be very disappointed? guy selling is called David has a Yamaha PM3000C I would like to buy but not at his price. Perhaps will make an offer. Good job it has a picture or it may have turned out to be a Phonic!!!! |
Posted By: GAZ.
Date Posted: 12 December 2013 at 8:17pm
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Seeing that last picture reminds me that I still need a couple of capacitors, 15000uF 63v if anybody has any in an old dead amp, or tucked away somewhere! I can then resurrect a poorly PPX I have here. ------------- 100% Earth Moving Bass |
Posted By: SMP
Date Posted: 12 December 2013 at 8:21pm
I most likely have I have a horde of such things. 63V is a bit low for most of my uses PM me |
Posted By: Buff
Date Posted: 12 December 2013 at 8:55pm
Jerry Mead and Ben Duncan did work together on amps. I think they used Hitachi mosfet. Ben was a big fan of mosfet at the time. After Rauch - Jerry was planing to use the name Otis for his new amplifiers. Don’t think they made any. |
Posted By: jbl_man
Date Posted: 12 December 2013 at 10:10pm
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£353! Oh dear,i hope the new owner wont be dissapointed when he realises he owns some 30 year old Avitec Beta's there for over 50 quid each,ouch! ------------- Be seeing you. |
Posted By: SMP
Date Posted: 12 December 2013 at 10:11pm
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final bid £353.89 for 7 sold as seen Avitec Beta 800's!!!! more than £50 each there is gonna be tears some people never learn |
Posted By: Muckerbarnes1
Date Posted: 13 December 2013 at 1:26am
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Austin Armstrong, Charles. Met the guy many moons back. He wanted me to go to Cambridge and stay a few days to sort his amps out for production. Sadly I understand Dave is no longer with us. ------------- Billy Dawg. |
Posted By: SMP
Date Posted: 13 December 2013 at 1:55am
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last contact with who I believe was Dave was for schematics as could not find mine. Matrix Amps collected from Delivery address today ( I can never g'tee to be here to receive shipping) Only given them a visual so far have a few niggles already and not even hooked them up. 1/ no signal links that is something I expect on pro kit. 2/ outputs only on NL4 I like 4mm posts easy phase change when not present as switched option without need to re-wire a connector Other is not really usual but would ask for it if I start to spec them "Pot-locks" great for tamper proofing/ preset input sensitivity Will hedzup when I have had a listen. But certainly not going on the demo install going out tomorrow they are XT2000 way too powerful for it. I had hoped to but will go out with a rental rack instead. But was not my doing as I did not sort the order I wanted xt1000 & 800 for that. so should get a sale all the same now that "That Co who we do not mention it's name" has removed the junk they were demonstrating. I cannot believe how awful it is. a 21" that honked monotonically shaped like a suitcase & a pr of little "boxes" that were equally as bad. lots of "Duralite" though. You should read the "white paper" ( perhaps because of the Stationary it is printed on only) will only take a few minutes as contains zero data from any scientific research. just some plonker voicing his non academic opinions & completely guess-timated theories and "findings" from negligible research based on the principles of bullshit and Bollix. Comedic really, but suppose he thinks himself serious But then as the "Feel the Bass never mind the quality Posse" keep on telling me on here audio is purely subjective. Which gave me an idea...to start an agency for subjective Piano Tuners. I reckon it will catch on who know I may even get to do Concert tuning jobs  |
Posted By: Muckerbarnes1
Date Posted: 13 December 2013 at 2:11am
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Binding posts??? Ya dinosaur! EEC regs... ha haaa. Look at the VFM as well as the audio sound quality, then work out why you need ( or how often) links now on all amps. Fitted two 800's this week. Just great! Simple and effective As a fellow 'tuner by ear' I reserve the right to add what bollix I likey. ------------- Billy Dawg. |
Posted By: SMP
Date Posted: 13 December 2013 at 2:20am
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no come on be serious now why on earth would you want consistency in tuning an Instrument surely subjective results are just as good aren't they? I mean who would know if the Piano was off-key? well apparently not some on here When I used to work filmscore recording we did not worry ourselves about such things as being in tune it was only the RPO or some other well known Orchestra mostly and what they know about Music? anyway it is all subjective ask Beethoven he would tell you the same |
Posted By: SMP
Date Posted: 13 December 2013 at 2:24am
I knoww EEC bollix but I still like em I am a Dinosaur I will admit to that but got around 10 racks full of them and regs state must be finger/touch proof so real easy cut the bloody interfering sod's off for putting them in my bloody rack in the first place  |
Posted By: TONY.A.S.S.
Date Posted: 13 December 2013 at 8:52am
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Many of us who already have these amps have made up our minds about them. So whether you are picky or not won't make any difference to us. I would enjoy listening to a conversation between you and Andy. ------------- http://www.facebook.com/tony.rossell.3" rel="nofollow - http://www.facebook.com/tony.rossell.3 |
Posted By: SMP
Date Posted: 15 December 2013 at 7:48am
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"Picky"??? Perhaps some may blindly choose Kit by the consensus. But I am not some people. I choose kit by my own findings. Another's opinion carries little weight, some, but not a great deal. I also will look forward to a conversation with Andy too. all good so far in small signal listening tests. Not got a CRO out as yet. And most likely forget that for now. But note surprisingly cool in quiescent state. Now for me that certainly begs a question. My AB's are Warmer in this state. VFM is good BTW, But has little influence here. NL4 thing is bit weird needs a little thought when using a single termination harness to rack panel. As a "Crossover" Cable is required to configure as an A/B LF/Hi unit. depends on your NL4 config as most "Out of the Box" is usually the norm for them to be ch1 with "Subs" on ch2. I usually reverse this, feels a bit weird to me chA as hi and chB as Low. must be fun running out to NL8's. will find out later when I run a 4way system off them. I have a DDA carded for it already, 360 will follow. And will run them via the DSP Farm but only have 4ch's of Matrix here. So 5 & 6 way not possible so no MTT,s. |
Posted By: TONY.A.S.S.
Date Posted: 15 December 2013 at 9:55am
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I would imagine that most amps are chosen after a good demo. I have always maintained on here that members can pick the Bones out of an Ant when it comes to it. My own Matrix were chosen after many discussions with them and of course really good demos in which they gave me amps just to go away and play with. Matrix was never going to be my first choice, but overall they won. Money is never an issue, but I think they turned out to be the best value in terms of Pounds per Watt, and of course the proof of the pudding and all that. They seem to suit my system very well.
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Posted By: Muckerbarnes1
Date Posted: 15 December 2013 at 10:29am
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My own AB FET amps run warm, as quiescent current is fairly high. When lower crossover distortion is present. The Matrix FET amps I have used show no crossover distortion of course and run cool in comparison. ------------- Billy Dawg. |
Posted By: jbl_man
Date Posted: 15 December 2013 at 10:57am
I wonder if the new owner has opened his "HH V800's" up yet?  Sorry,i shouldn't laugh. ------------- Be seeing you. |
Posted By: Muckerbarnes1
Date Posted: 15 December 2013 at 11:23am
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That reminds me. I must open up my Vee Twin and warm it up. ------------- Billy Dawg. |
Posted By: SMP
Date Posted: 15 December 2013 at 11:46am
I PM'd the seller for the pics explaining there was debate he sent some. watched bids rise thinking there will be tears But they do contain genuine 2SK/2SJ (Hitachi) that is worth something 16? in each worth something as "pulls" |
Posted By: jbl_man
Date Posted: 15 December 2013 at 11:55am
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True,and the transformers must weigh in as scrap at a tenner each? Probually not a loss,just the dissapointment of not getting a bargain-priced V800 for fifty quid each which would have sold for a nice fat profit. Still,a lot of time and effort to go to now,to try and recover the £360 investment. ------------- Be seeing you. |
Posted By: SMP
Date Posted: 15 December 2013 at 4:41pm
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I do buy to "Harvest", but not at that price. I would still buy them but would expect a reduction. they are "item not as described" although the make model clearly given despite being further described as a "Re-badge" |
Posted By: jbl_man
Date Posted: 15 December 2013 at 6:13pm
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Re-badge...i have some Citronic PPX here badged as Chrysalis Retail Entertainment.....i must put them on ebay like that guy did saying "i was told they are actually Lab Gruppens re-badged for install use",and then copy and past some daft high spec from the Lab site,and sell them as sold as seen. Job done. ------------- Be seeing you. |
Posted By: SMP
Date Posted: 15 December 2013 at 9:39pm
 I buy PPX for use as a Chassis and whatever else I can Harvest. getting hard to find. I got a Dozen or so, a while back. mixed lot. they in a very tall pile in a lock-up.
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Posted By: Muckerbarnes1
Date Posted: 15 December 2013 at 9:51pm
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Yer a hoarder.... ------------- Billy Dawg. |
Posted By: SMP
Date Posted: 15 December 2013 at 9:58pm
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I am also a seller of many wares hey "Mucky" I started a little personal project today a "Super Analogue LMS" coz it a bit more than a Dividing Network/ X-over a 2in 8out with extras...has a new rack and everything |
Posted By: Muckerbarnes1
Date Posted: 15 December 2013 at 11:00pm
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What chips, order, dB, points etc... Eq? Management? ------------- Billy Dawg. |
Posted By: SMP
Date Posted: 16 December 2013 at 1:13am
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Not really got to the "Nitty Gritty" just yet but for the basics OPA's for Chipset. 2 or 4 in is a choice, as is 2x4 band or 4x2 band along with it. card is preferable to sweep but either sweep depends on finding all the necessary bits to do it. 4 band EQ on all outputs is a must will optimise for Lo/Mid1/Mid2/Hi bands. choice of metering Avg/Peak. choice of limiter RMS/Peak. Phase control @f3, May even give it response tuning there too, but not sure that one. PSU is a Puzzle at present But I reckon external I have a Soundcraft 200 kicking about, job done It is 7U Rackmount. Yes 7U!! But then no need for other Outboard eh? It's in a 10U case so 1U @top 2U @bottom are free top a Comp//Gate/De-Esser etc & Bottom Monitor Amp. I like building odd or crazy Whimsical stuff. I need to brush up on my terrible Metalwork skills. Hate working with the stuff. I prefer Wood so, will be a learning curve or find a Sheet Fab Man. Like my Contract Joiners. But do not know any. I meet with them this week, discuss new Run of product. Different this one, No assembly just make "Flatpak" Panels. I will assemble to Enclosure, Paint, fit, test yada yada yada. But easy to knock out a couple of Pallets of 18mm BP. I go look at another Work unit this week 1800sq ft for a GRP workshop and bit of storage. And goona try the 23" Gpu to run a 40" Panel think pinout is same and aspect matters more still a Samsung Screen from a deceased JVC somebody donated as a Puzzle. |
Posted By: burningbush
Date Posted: 23 December 2013 at 2:53pm
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/power-amplifiers-5-Metro-Audio-2400-/141145339296?pt=UK_MusicalInstr_Amplifiers_RL&hash=item20dceaf5a0 ------------- music is the message |
Posted By: SMP
Date Posted: 23 December 2013 at 4:10pm
I messaged seller telling him the are Avitec Beta 800 as he had sent me the pics from first listing. yet still got that V800 specs on it 
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Posted By: Muckerbarnes1
Date Posted: 23 December 2013 at 4:34pm
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There are 5 listed this time. Internal pics too. ------------- Billy Dawg. |
Posted By: SMP
Date Posted: 23 December 2013 at 4:42pm
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he replied with an "Apparently" attitude. Buyer BEWARE!!! Coincidently Mucky just picked up yet another Amp for my personal collection yet another Rauch DVT250S in case fullly rock n roll plug n play rack for peanuts. will send up some when I check it for a visual as you have not seen in one |
Posted By: SMP
Date Posted: 23 December 2013 at 5:46pm
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Just opened up the rack a la Rauch pics to follow I thought "Metro Audio" rang bells..... |
Posted By: jbl_man
Date Posted: 23 December 2013 at 6:38pm
He must be some kind of idiot,as that's two of us have told him what they are now,and still listed as HH v800. Blatant midleading advert. ------------- Be seeing you. |
Posted By: SMP
Date Posted: 23 December 2013 at 7:44pm
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he is exreacting it. but only 5 where or what with the other 2? buyer could be "Harvesting" I would for the cans TO's etc just bit far to collect plus the harvest time so 2 days manhours if it stays low will send a driver perhaps |
Posted By: jbl_man
Date Posted: 25 December 2013 at 11:43am
It's gone again. This listing was ended by the seller because there was an error in the listing.------------- Be seeing you. |
Posted By: Muckerbarnes1
Date Posted: 25 December 2013 at 5:32pm
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Noooooo..... ------------- Billy Dawg. |
Posted By: SMP
Date Posted: 25 December 2013 at 5:39pm
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back on again at £100 odd |
Posted By: jbl_man
Date Posted: 25 December 2013 at 9:02pm
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Correct info on the amps this time,however i see he has added a £40 "packing" charge as well,on top of any courrier costs. ------------- Be seeing you. |
Posted By: boominbob
Date Posted: 28 December 2013 at 8:27pm
| Yuck avitec amps, old and well..........old! still 7 available! oucha! |
Posted By: Majestic
Date Posted: 30 December 2013 at 8:51pm
| this seller is a toe rag! he has a bad reputation for ripping people off, i know from personal experience. beware! |
Posted By: jbl_man
Date Posted: 31 December 2013 at 11:59am
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I see they sold for £125....add on say £30 to have them sent by pallet,and the seller wanted "£40 packing fee",cough,makes them 200 quid the lot....so £40 each,about what they are worth. ------------- Be seeing you. |
Posted By: SMP
Date Posted: 31 December 2013 at 12:18pm
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really? more like a tenner each only worth a "Harvest" for the Hitachi MOSFETs |
Posted By: DrWattson
Date Posted: 07 January 2014 at 1:07am
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I bought those 5 amps :) Went and picked them up myself, they were removed from a theatre. I opened them up to find all genuine Hitachi J50, K135 MOSFETs, big power transformers and the caps are 100V 12000uf x 4 All 5 amps powered up fine and are in working condition. Classic AB topology |