alternative drivers for punishers .. ideas please
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Topic: alternative drivers for punishers .. ideas please
Posted By: myser
Subject: alternative drivers for punishers .. ideas please
Date Posted: 10 December 2013 at 7:39am
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what drivers would people recommend for punishers other than Ciare drivers which seem to be unavailable at the moment (does anyone know why) .. i,v had a look and cant find anything else that runs more than 500 aes that is runs low enough for them . ------------- myser |
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Posted By: Timebomb
Date Posted: 10 December 2013 at 3:53pm
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http://forteaudio.eu/index.php?page=shop.product_details&product_id=113&flypage=flypage.tpl&pop=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=1" rel="nofollow - BMS 12S305 looks worth considering, or theirs some nice looking faital 12s, ive not tried them but on paper they look like there worth testing. ------------- James Secker facebook.com/soundgearuk James@soundgear.co.uk www.soundgear.co.uk |
Posted By: MarjanM
Date Posted: 10 December 2013 at 4:54pm
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I am not sure the BMS cone will take the pressure in the punisher chamber. But i might be wrong. ------------- Marjan Milosevic MM-Acoustics www.mm-acoustics.com https://www.facebook.com/pages/MM-Acoustics/608901282527713 |
Posted By: craig582
Date Posted: 10 December 2013 at 4:59pm
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i think i saw somewhere that the sd12 from p audio could be used? dont shoot me if its wrong, my memory isn't too great :) Edit: aha here we go, Mircea Bartic did it to great results http://forum.speakerplans.com/topic4436.html" rel="nofollow - LINK |
Posted By: all bass
Date Posted: 10 December 2013 at 5:26pm
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There seem to be 3 on stock at Lean Business: http://www.lean-business.co.uk/eshop/ciare-1200-sw-punisher-12-8ohm-subwoofer-p-1753.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.lean-business.co.uk/eshop/ciare-1200-sw-punisher-12-8ohm-subwoofer-p-1753.html ------------- https://www.instagram.com/my_modular_journey/ |
Posted By: myser
Date Posted: 11 December 2013 at 1:59pm
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Cheers guys .. Are ciare having troubles ? Dont seem to be many of there drivers available for some time now . ------------- myser |
Posted By: Andy Kos
Date Posted: 11 December 2013 at 2:19pm
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Drivers being available is dependent on demand and the relevant dealer/distributors holding stock.
If not enough people buy them and use them, dealers will tend to stock them less.
If dealers stock them less, fewer will get manufactured...
------------- just a guy with a warehouse and a few speakers... www.bluearan.co.uk |
Posted By: Heathrow_B_line
Date Posted: 11 December 2013 at 2:28pm
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seems to have doubled in price. wasn't £80 a few years back? ------------- Produce a killer sound. Take no prisoners. |
Posted By: Andy Kos
Date Posted: 11 December 2013 at 2:34pm
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that was quite a lot of years back...
------------- just a guy with a warehouse and a few speakers... www.bluearan.co.uk |
Posted By: Mark James
Date Posted: 14 December 2013 at 9:08pm
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was 99quids when i was at pap in 2008 ish but yeah now like wot 170+????? then again i remember the pd186 was like 140 or something back then or even less this was litteraly around six months maybe a year ish before the credit crunch started ------------- insert silly sentence here |
Posted By: Andy Kos
Date Posted: 14 December 2013 at 9:40pm
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Everything has gone up in price the last few years, copper and iron have soared in price, as have running costs (incl electricity, gas, water, wages) for everyone in manufacturing. It would be impossible for people to carry on building at the same prices as 5 years ago.
Also, if you are looking at retails pricing, at one point the VAT rate was 15%, then 17.5% and now 20% - so with the government getting an extra 5% on top of all the other increases in costs....
even costs of production in the far east are going up. ------------- just a guy with a warehouse and a few speakers... www.bluearan.co.uk |
Posted By: MarjanM
Date Posted: 14 December 2013 at 10:46pm
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True Andy. And in the mean time people want cheaper and cheaper products. ------------- Marjan Milosevic MM-Acoustics www.mm-acoustics.com https://www.facebook.com/pages/MM-Acoustics/608901282527713 |
Posted By: Tony Wilkes
Date Posted: 14 December 2013 at 11:17pm
If someone would like to try the 12s305 in a box I could be persuaded, pm me if interested. Tony ------------- www.forteaudio.eu - BMS - db-Mark Processors - Lexon (SAE) |
Timebomb wrote:Posted By: MarjanM
Date Posted: 14 December 2013 at 11:24pm
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Yeah i would really like to know that too. ------------- Marjan Milosevic MM-Acoustics www.mm-acoustics.com https://www.facebook.com/pages/MM-Acoustics/608901282527713 |
Posted By: Mircea Bartic
Date Posted: 17 December 2013 at 10:19am
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I was in the process of developing a prototype speaker for my own design that would be suitable for Punisher too It is a version derived from the SD-12 made by P-audio until 2007. The project was put on hold because I got focused on other things, but someday I will get back at it. There were two versions, a Ferrite and a NEO one. The NEO would need the back chamber altered again because of the depth. ------------- general manager & head designer at nexus-acoustics research http://www.facebook.com/nexus.acoustics.research" rel="nofollow - http://www.facebook.com/nexus.acoustics.research Ex Nexus_3 |
Posted By: Andy Kos
Date Posted: 17 December 2013 at 10:44am
Which is why the guy in the middle is getting squeezed. Cost prices gone up, customers want to pay less....
I guess we just all have to get a bit more clever and figure out how to reverse this a little.
------------- just a guy with a warehouse and a few speakers... www.bluearan.co.uk |