Fullrange speaker
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Topic: Fullrange speaker
Posted By: Panoramix
Subject: Fullrange speaker
Date Posted: 09 February 2014 at 12:15pm
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Hi, Does anybody have a good full range reflex design ? something like x15(or even a single 12"+ 1,4" on a cdh) but with actual driver ? need to be passive. Frequency response should be 60/70hz to 18khz, but will be used mainly 80/90hz up(with a half Gsub under them)...but sometimes need it can be used alone for dj speaker. |
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Posted By: Panoramix
Date Posted: 11 February 2014 at 11:49am
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UPP ? |
Posted By: imageoven
Date Posted: 11 February 2014 at 12:25pm
What does this mean? Why not the plans you list? or do you mean you want to buy? ------------- Keep pushing on, things are gonna get better. |
Panoramix wrote:Posted By: Panoramix
Date Posted: 11 February 2014 at 1:09pm
| actual driver mean driver that i can actually buy...not discontinued ones like the ones on the plan. |
Posted By: Meat
Date Posted: 11 February 2014 at 3:06pm
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Yeah, using BMS and a Faital 1.4". ------------- Don't test the champignon sound |
Posted By: Panoramix
Date Posted: 11 February 2014 at 4:16pm
Wich one from BMS ? same for the comp ? and did you made it ? did you modified the filter to suit this new drivers ? how does it sound ? i don't look specially for a x15, but i don't want to go from scratch here(specially because of the passive filter) that's why i look for a approuved design that's work with to much tweaking. |
Posted By: DMorison
Date Posted: 11 February 2014 at 7:59pm
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18 Sound and Beyma both have recommended designs for current drivers that include passive crossover schematics. Cheers, David. |
Posted By: Meat
Date Posted: 11 February 2014 at 8:31pm
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Its BMS 12N620 and Faital HF144. No crossover, active crossover needed. ------------- Don't test the champignon sound |
Posted By: Panoramix
Date Posted: 12 February 2014 at 10:43am
i don't want go active, this system need to work with only 2amp, one for the sub, one for the tops.
i have see that ones but are somebody tested them here ? and the driver price from their design(beyma, i hadn't look the 18sound ones) aren't really cheap but yeah if i don't found another design i will think about them. |
Posted By: corell
Date Posted: 12 February 2014 at 11:23am
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http://www.jobst-audio.de/public-address/m-serie/114-jm-sat12 http://www.jobst-audio.de/public-address/m-serie/116-jm-sat15 |
Posted By: Panoramix
Date Posted: 13 February 2014 at 12:04pm
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Hi, look very nice but i can't dowload the complete plan, the link is not complete on their website. do you have moree info about it ? look bloody similar to the one i'm looking actually, chilltone15" that use a B&C 15NW76, a B&CDE250 on a RCF H64 horn. and there have a cheaper 15" driver that is the beyma 15MI100 with the same DE250 on a RCF H100horn. |
Posted By: corell
Date Posted: 13 February 2014 at 1:16pm
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you have to buy the passive x-over or the whole kit to get the plan at the higher class products (like m range). the jm sat 15 can handle a eq of +10db between 50-80Hz for fulllrange usage if you set a low cut. but they are very carefully designed and jobst is one of germanys leading DIY websites. xovers are 200€ for a pair, kit is about 1060€ for a pair. |
Posted By: AndyWave
Date Posted: 16 February 2014 at 8:01pm
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Hi My recent project with Beyma 12P80Fe in about 50L reflex + Faital HF144 + LTH 142 would otherwise fit the bill, but active crossover (900Hz fir) only atm. Only 4dB's of boost was required below 100Hz for decent bass sound in full range mode. Also tried 'em as tops >100Hz with 37Hz tuned 18" TH's. Have thought making passive crossover option, but the highish power capabilities of beyma bass-mid sum up to expensive and heavy coils. And lowish xo point leads to more expensive, larger capacitor values. Andy ------------- torturing electrons since ...... |
Posted By: Panoramix
Date Posted: 17 February 2014 at 10:24pm
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Look good and as you said it fill the bill, but i really need them passive, my friend can't afford one more amp. for the moment i have a few option that i keep in mind: http://www.eighteensound.com/staticContent/applications/kits/18Sound_kit15.pdf" rel="nofollow - http://www.eighteensound.com/staticContent/applications/kits/18Sound_kit15.pdf http://bcspeakers.s3.amazonaws.com/2013/02/12/16/15/32/324/file" rel="nofollow - http://bcspeakers.s3.amazonaws.com/2013/02/12/16/15/32/324/file and why not : http://www.jobst-audio.de/public-address/m-serie/116-jm-sat15" rel="nofollow - http://www.jobst-audio.de/public-address/m-serie/116-jm-sat1 http://www.bcorde.com/cg7-152k-et-mk2-p97664-1.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.bcorde.com/cg7-152k-et-mk2-p97664-1.htm http://www.bcorde.com/cg7-382pk-p84779-1.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.bcorde.com/cg7-382pk-p84779-1.html does anybody have made the b&c or 18sound design here ? how does their comp(ND1460) sound in this kind of set up ? i know the b&c DE160 and D250 but any of the other one used in this designs(DE400TN), any feedback would be helpfull. |