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Topic: why did my solder iron stop working?
Posted By: discosucks
Subject: why did my solder iron stop working?
Date Posted: 08 April 2014 at 8:41pm
Got this new gas solder iron made by ferm , 

Now it was filled when i got it but last week it ran out , 

I bought gas , the gas came with little heads , one of witch kinda fits but its hard to know
if its the right fit . 

Now iv tried filling it , cant really tell if its going in but it doesnt seem to be as nothing is coming out the top when turned on . 

Would it be because im using cheaper gas? It says on the ebay add where i bought it that it will work on any lighter gas . 


heres the bottom , iv tried opening what looks like the valve , still no good . 





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Posted By: mk2_ginger_biscuit69
Date Posted: 08 April 2014 at 8:47pm
when it does fill you will hear a whooshing type noise as it fills [gas transfer], sounds like the fill kit isn't connecting too the thing. I have found this with many lighter refill kits, trying to refill lights.... only 1/10 actually workOuch.

looks like a nice piece of kit, very handy to throw in the toolbox!




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Posted By: discosucks
Date Posted: 08 April 2014 at 8:58pm
It fills my lighters no problem! iv tried 3 different gas cans now and none have worked . 

A nice lady from a local shop has ordered me a clipper gas can , im thinking maybe the cheap gas is the problem . 

Yea its really nice , its super hot too . 

Also one of the tips is made for shirking shirk rap 


Posted By: kanks
Date Posted: 08 April 2014 at 10:12pm
I had this with mine just try different ends and also without one also try holding it open as you do it but be careful not to hit the igniter.


Posted By: kedwardsleisure
Date Posted: 08 April 2014 at 11:17pm
mine's the same, it won't fill with any of the supplied ends. Just push the bare nozzle square against the fill valve on the iron.
Don't think the gas will be faulty, butane is butane. I have used every type and they all work...clipper, swan, ronson, london, etc



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Posted By: Pinyorouk
Date Posted: 08 April 2014 at 11:31pm
Also make sure that gas can and soldering iron are upside down when filling. Silly comment ... but you never know Smile


Posted By: dlyxover
Date Posted: 08 April 2014 at 11:51pm
Originally posted by kedwardsleisure kedwardsleisure wrote:

mine's the same, it won't fill with any of the supplied ends. Just push the bare nozzle square against the fill valve on the iron.
Don't think the gas will be faulty, butane is butane. I have used every type and they all work...clipper, swan, ronson, london, etc


Same here with my gas jobbie. 
Bare nozzle into your iron, you should hear the hissing as the gas transfers as ginge mentioned. 
no noise its not filling, gas spraying everywhere (lol) no filling.


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Posted By: cravings
Date Posted: 08 April 2014 at 11:52pm
i had a gas iron that failed once... i mailed the manufacturer and i got a reply telling me that they only rated certain brands of butane.. so eh.. according to him. butane is not just butane.

not the same brand as discosucks' one there. i'll try and find the mail..


Posted By: cravings
Date Posted: 08 April 2014 at 11:56pm
Originally posted by Mr Soldering Iron Mr Soldering Iron wrote:

Without seeing you iron I would be reasonably certain that what you are experiencing is a partially blocked jet. This is caused by poor quality gas. I know you mention that you buy lighter gas from your local hardware. But brand of butane gas is it?

Poor quality butane gas is nearly always the cheapest also. The reason being that there is a much higher propane % in the cheaper gas to keep the cost down. Propane has significantly high levels of oils and impurities that butane and these will block the jet in you pro piezo. Sometimes you can get lucky and it may take a while for the jet to block and other times it can happen the first or second time you use this gas. The end result is usually the same. That is why we recommend that a consumer uses a good quality gas such as Ronson or London gas etc. They are only slightly dearer but the quality is significantly higher.


Posted By: madboffin
Date Posted: 09 April 2014 at 12:02am
There's normally a little window somewhere so you can see if it's full.

As has been said, the can should be inverted (nozzle down) when filling. You may need to press quite hard to open the valve.
 
The brand name on the gas refill shouldn't matter.


Posted By: discosucks
Date Posted: 09 April 2014 at 12:08am
Originally posted by kedwardsleisure kedwardsleisure wrote:

mine's the same, it won't fill with any of the supplied ends. Just push the bare nozzle square against the fill valve on the iron.
Don't think the gas will be faulty, butane is butane. I have used every type and they all work...clipper, swan, ronson, london, etc


does it no spill out all over when you do it like that? 


Posted By: discosucks
Date Posted: 09 April 2014 at 12:17am
Maybe the output on mine is blocked then , as I think gas has gone in at some stage . cant see how that would have happened though , guess I will have to dismantle it haha . 


Posted By: cravings
Date Posted: 09 April 2014 at 12:31am
no don't


Posted By: cravings
Date Posted: 09 April 2014 at 12:32am
it should fill just fine. my dodgy one was a cheapo, and it was on the out that it was blocked... it wouldn't stay lit and could be heard spluttering. as kevin said try to fill it with the bare nozzle...


Posted By: discosucks
Date Posted: 09 April 2014 at 12:43am
Hmmm , I bet mine is filled then , and is blocked . did you un block it? 


Posted By: cravings
Date Posted: 09 April 2014 at 1:16am
no i gave up on it, it was crap.

you don't seem to think that gas has gone into yours. i would discourage taking them apart! little springs and all sorts of stuff in there.


Posted By: mooreb
Date Posted: 09 April 2014 at 1:37am
Originally posted by cravings cravings wrote:

no i gave up on it, it was crap.

you don't seem to think that gas has gone into yours. i would discourage taking them apart! little springs and all sorts of stuff in there.

And not whilst smoking, that could be bad!


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Posted By: studio45
Date Posted: 09 April 2014 at 11:05am
Does it slosh? If it's been successfully filled there will be liquid butane in it. If there's no liquid then it didn't fill. You won't get gas spraying everywhere if you use the bare nozzle to fill it; even if the valve on the iron is blocked there shouldn't be more than a small pffft of leakage, if you're applying enough down-force to open the valve on the can.

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Posted By: Battered
Date Posted: 09 April 2014 at 2:15pm
Maybe the OP needs a bigger hammer?

If that doesn't fix it, it's probably an electrical fault......


Posted By: discosucks
Date Posted: 10 April 2014 at 12:11am
Im pretty sure its broken , it was getting gas in , put wasnt coming out right so I put a needle into the valve were it comes out and now to much is coming out haha . 

Its been along day .....


Posted By: Battered
Date Posted: 10 April 2014 at 9:55am


Oh dear, sounds like it's time to buy another one. Can't you tell them it stopped working and you want it exchanged?

Obviously don't mention the diy rebore attempt, but hopefully they'll exchange it without fuss the way Argos do when you decide you want to exchange something or get a refund after you broke it. I mean when it doesn't work straight out of the box


Posted By: cravings
Date Posted: 10 April 2014 at 10:35am
anyone recommend a good portable gas iron that will work without issues?


Posted By: Dub Specialist Sound
Date Posted: 10 April 2014 at 1:14pm
Cant recomend one really but my mate give me one an Antex one working great since had it using it with Ronson refill can,

quite surprised with these gas solder iron never had one or give one a thought really...

quite like them now...


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