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Topic: Yes it is a line array
Posted By: MarjanM
Subject: Yes it is a line array
Date Posted: 08 July 2014 at 12:32am
:-)




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Marjan Milosevic
MM-Acoustics
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Posted By: bitSmasher
Date Posted: 08 July 2014 at 12:59am
*warms tar and plucks feathers


Posted By: EHaudio
Date Posted: 08 July 2014 at 1:11am
Looks like something I did a gig with in france somewhere... Needed some help if it's the same thing.


Posted By: MarjanM
Date Posted: 08 July 2014 at 8:46am
No this is my newest product, so it is not any box you could have seen.



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MM-Acoustics
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Posted By: MarjanM
Date Posted: 08 July 2014 at 8:47am
Originally posted by bitSmasher bitSmasher wrote:

*warms tar and plucks feathers

LOOOOOL, i guess i do deserve that now :-)


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Posted By: TONY.A.S.S.
Date Posted: 08 July 2014 at 8:56am
If you can'y beat them, join them, I guess.LOL
I'm sure coming from you, they will be well thought out and perform well.


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Posted By: EHaudio
Date Posted: 08 July 2014 at 10:25am
Originally posted by MarjanM MarjanM wrote:

No this is my newest product, so it is not any box you could have seen.



In that case looks kinda nice for certain kinds of work,, what's in them if I may ask???


Posted By: KidCreole
Date Posted: 08 July 2014 at 10:44am
Thumbs Up

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Posted By: KidCreole
Date Posted: 08 July 2014 at 10:45am
Any reason why you did the side profile that shape?

if you close there rear gap the front gap will become larger


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Posted By: Plaguesguitarist
Date Posted: 08 July 2014 at 11:03am
That should be very easy to rig -  the Pin system is very much like EV XLE system. 

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Posted By: all bass
Date Posted: 08 July 2014 at 12:18pm
Very nice Marjan.

2x8" hornloaded in a box that small. Would be very interrested to see a picture with the grill off.

You have come a long way since:


Posted By: MarjanM
Date Posted: 08 July 2014 at 1:12pm
Ah yes, i still have those boxes. Put some wheels on them and using them as trolleys in the shop :-).

Mykey, if i kept the pure trap shape then the front height gets too big anyway, in a slightly curved array the gap is not that big but you do put more sound sources in shorter line.
In a short array you do not have any line array effect anyway.
 
I dont see anyone bashing Lacoustics for having the same thing on the K1 :-).


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MM-Acoustics
www.mm-acoustics.com
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Posted By: KidCreole
Date Posted: 08 July 2014 at 4:11pm
I wasn't bashing, just asking


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Posted By: MarjanM
Date Posted: 09 July 2014 at 12:12am
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MM-Acoustics
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Posted By: mk2_ginger_biscuit69
Date Posted: 09 July 2014 at 12:19am
here's some info to make this thread more than two pictures of line array, possibly what could be seen as marketing Wink

Originally posted by MM-Acoustics MM-Acoustics wrote:



http://www.mm-acoustics.com/?page_id=54" rel="nofollow - M28LA  passive modular line array source features 2-way passive (bi-amp) design equipped with 2×8 inch LF speaker in a port assisted horn loaded configuration, allowing increased sensitivity and SPL. The multicell LF horn configuration provides seamless inter-element coupling of the LF driver up to the crossover point.

HF section consists of one 1.75 inch annular diaphragm driver coupled to a proprietary waveguide. The box configuration generates a symmetrical 90 degree horizontal coverage with no apparent lobes in its entire frequency range.

Each of the system elements can be curved up to 16 degrees without breaking the inter-element acoustic coupling.

M28LA line source element is made of premium grade Baltic birch plywood to provide maximum acoustical and mechanical integrity.

The system is designed to provide the specified performance in a group of minimum 4 boxes.

Each element has nominal 16 ohm impedance and the system is driven by a dedicated PKN XE6000 amplifier which provides clean undistorted power with a significant headroom and excellent system protection.



Usable bandwidth (-10db):
90Hz-20KHz (M28LA DSP settings)

Nominal directivity (-6db):
Horizontal: 90 degree symmetrical. Vertical: Deployment dependant.

Maximum system SPL:
147db (M28LA DSP settings) calculated for 4 boxes based on 106db 1W/1m sensitivity per element.

RMS handling capacity:
LF: 600W per element. HF: 80W per element.

Components:
LF: 2×8 inch water resistant. HF: 1×1.75 inch annular diaphragm compression driver

Nominal impedance:
Passive 16ohm

Rigging:
Polyester powder coated steel. Angle increments: 0,2,4,6,8,10,12,14,16

Physical:
WxHxD 700x290x500mm, Weight: 32kg
Material:Baltic birch plywood. Connectors: 2x Neutrik Nl4 Speakon
Finish: Black textured water based coating




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Posted By: mk2_ginger_biscuit69
Date Posted: 09 July 2014 at 12:23am
btw, how is bandwidth useable at -10db? Guessing those 8" drivers don't really go that low, so what would be the actual crossover used on these? Recommended subs for complete rig?

very pro looking indeed though, they look suitably like 'line array' from any manufacturer. Would have to hear if they had any balls before i could credit them, yet to hear a little array with mid suitable for anything above speech Embarrassed - nothing personal!!



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Posted By: Spartan Audio
Date Posted: 09 July 2014 at 1:22am
Hear Arcline.

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Posted By: Teunos
Date Posted: 09 July 2014 at 4:00pm
Originally posted by MarjanM MarjanM wrote:

Ah yes, i still have those boxes. Put some wheels on them and using them as trolleys in the shop :-).

Mykey, if i kept the pure trap shape then the front height gets too big anyway, in a slightly curved array the gap is not that big but you do put more sound sources in shorter line.
In a short array you do not have any line array effect anyway.
 
I dont see anyone bashing Lacoustics for having the same thing on the K1 :-).


Then why call it a line array, if it is intended for ahort arrays, which so not even behave as a line array?

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Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 09 July 2014 at 4:17pm
Originally posted by mk2_ginger_biscuit69 mk2_ginger_biscuit69 wrote:

btw, how is bandwidth useable at -10db? Guessing those 8" drivers don't really go that low, so what would be the actual crossover used on these? Recommended subs for complete rig?

very pro looking indeed though, they look suitably like 'line array' from any manufacturer. Would have to hear if they had any balls before i could credit them, yet to hear a little array with mid suitable for anything above speech <img src="smileys/smiley9.gif" alt="Embarrassed" title="Embarrassed" /> - nothing personal!!



Most 'pro' line array specs seem to be provided as -10dB points.

http://www.l-acoustics.com/products-kara-85.html

Very, very close component and spec list – not passively crossed internally though, which I would prefer at least as an option!


Posted By: MarjanM
Date Posted: 09 July 2014 at 11:56pm
Originally posted by Teunos Teunos wrote:

Originally posted by MarjanM MarjanM wrote:

Ah yes, i still have those boxes. Put some wheels on them and using them as trolleys in the shop :-).

Mykey, if i kept the pure trap shape then the front height gets too big anyway, in a slightly curved array the gap is not that big but you do put more sound sources in shorter line.
In a short array you do not have any line array effect anyway.
 
I dont see anyone bashing Lacoustics for having the same thing on the K1 :-).


Then why call it a line array, if it is intended for ahort arrays, which so not even behave as a line array?

16 degree vertical dispersion, 8 degree side trap on the boxes. So it is a line array as much as any other 16 degree box. Q1 as an example, or the Flexarray. If you read the spec you will see that the spec is for a system of 4 boxes that we recommend as a minimum hang.



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MM-Acoustics
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https://www.facebook.com/pages/MM-Acoustics/608901282527713


Posted By: Rengade Project
Date Posted: 10 July 2014 at 1:21am
Once again MarjanM is creating units that I desire and showing them off!

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Posted By: andycw
Date Posted: 10 July 2014 at 12:47pm
Thumbs Up

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Posted By: bitSmasher
Date Posted: 10 July 2014 at 4:27pm
Meow Array


Posted By: Pasi
Date Posted: 10 July 2014 at 7:21pm
106dB from single element with double 8" ? Something smells here, and it's not my pizza Big smile


Posted By: KidCreole
Date Posted: 10 July 2014 at 7:26pm
98?

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Posted By: Pasi
Date Posted: 10 July 2014 at 7:28pm
Where did you get that 98 from?

"147db (M28LA DSP settings) calculated for 4 boxes based on 106db 1W/1m sensitivity per element." To me that reads that one box is 106.


Posted By: KidCreole
Date Posted: 10 July 2014 at 7:29pm
what they should be


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Posted By: KidCreole
Date Posted: 10 July 2014 at 7:30pm
147 with 4 hung in air would be awesome

would be


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Posted By: MarjanM
Date Posted: 11 July 2014 at 2:28am
Guys, boxes are not reflex but horn loaded. Whats not clear here?



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Marjan Milosevic
MM-Acoustics
www.mm-acoustics.com
https://www.facebook.com/pages/MM-Acoustics/608901282527713


Posted By: Pasi
Date Posted: 11 July 2014 at 9:23am
8N515?


Posted By: MarjanM
Date Posted: 11 July 2014 at 11:57am
No Pasi, only the HF is BMS, 8s are 18sound.

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MM-Acoustics
www.mm-acoustics.com
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Posted By: bass*en*mass
Date Posted: 24 January 2015 at 3:05am
Any more details on these Marjan?

Realistic crossovers 2/4/6 a side, subjective tonality, backspill, breakup power/spl?
Is there a stacking option too? etc. etc.
Spill the beans :)



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