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Topic: HOG Scoop
Posted By: staiper
Subject: HOG Scoop
Date Posted: 28 February 2007 at 7:29pm
Hello,
 
Good morning

   http://groups.msn.com/SpeakerBuildingpics/shoebox.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=92 - HOG Scoop - PLANS

   http://groups.msn.com/SpeakerBuildingpics/shoebox.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=93 - HOG Scoop - part list
 
    Best wishes,
Stipe




Replies:
Posted By: mykey
Date Posted: 28 February 2007 at 8:07pm
make some noise

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......just all them hanging there like giant bananas.



Posted By: jethrocker
Date Posted: 28 February 2007 at 8:13pm
Nice one staiper... Me thinks we'll be seeing some of these around, er, making some noise.


Posted By: heinrich
Date Posted: 28 February 2007 at 8:28pm
stipes

you've got a good collection there.

how different is the Turbosound from ES 18?




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Posted By: Rog
Date Posted: 01 March 2007 at 7:18am
Hi Stipe,
 
Thanks for the plan, I'm sure its going to be very popular.
 
For larger magnet drivers would it not be possible to make the cab height 997 instaed of 986.


Posted By: Static Age
Date Posted: 01 March 2007 at 9:06am
nice one stapier!
cut list too eh, top man


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Posted By: MarjanM
Date Posted: 01 March 2007 at 9:52am
Can RCF 18P300 work in this box?

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Posted By: efreak
Date Posted: 01 March 2007 at 12:04pm
Nice design, Thank you!!


Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 01 March 2007 at 5:18pm
Dangerous - 4 of these in one section/stack must be sayin' sumthing. Spot-on.


Posted By: login4
Date Posted: 01 March 2007 at 5:46pm
your a legend 

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Posted By: smithers
Date Posted: 02 March 2007 at 4:06am
Damn i love this new design! i've been waiting for someone to come up with a more modern scoop design! with a horn mouth that big these badboys must go low!
if anyone's gonna build some of these hit me up so i can come and have a listen!

what drivers would be suitable for this box? PD 1850?

congrats on an exellent design!



Posted By: MarjanM
Date Posted: 02 March 2007 at 5:03am
Ok.. i will ask again.

Will RCF 18P300 work in this box?

Hornresp calulations are giving weird resulrs for any driver so i can figure it out.

Hvala za dizajn Stipe.

Regards
Marjan


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Posted By: madboy
Date Posted: 04 March 2007 at 2:45am

ok i need choice a right driver for this plan

pd1850
void v18-1000
?
for more spl at 33Hz ~  100Hz :)


Posted By: Alex_C
Date Posted: 04 March 2007 at 4:00pm
Hey staiper, i know this is off-topic but your PM inbox is full and i didn't want to start a new thread. I was just looking through the pics on your msn group and found the plan for the m112, I'm currently about to build a pair of 12+1 mid-tops and was just checking that it's ok to use these plans as this seem to be just what I'm looking for (good cab but fairly easy to build as my woodworking skills aren't all that great).

thanks, Alex

p.s if i can use them i'll post a full set of build pics for them.


Posted By: Mircea Bartic
Date Posted: 04 March 2007 at 5:16pm
Originally posted by MarjanM MarjanM wrote:

Ok.. i will ask again.

Will RCF 18P300 work in this box?

Hornresp calulations are giving weird resulrs for any driver so i can figure it out.

Hvala za dizajn Stipe.

Regards
Marjan


Marjan

the only way I see it is that you will have to build a prototipe to find that out

all my attempts to model this contraption have failed, and after I heared Rog say that he can't model it right either, I gave up completely.

in my mind I know it should work but can not proove in any way without a measured response


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Posted By: staiper
Date Posted: 04 March 2007 at 5:35pm

Hello,

 

L18P300 .. in sim. seems that would work very well.

 

Booth PD1850 and V18-1200 are suitable for this cabinet.

PD1850 will give a bit more aggressive "dryer" sound than other two noted in post .. all sim. prediction.

 As Mircea says ; in my mind I know it should work but can not proove in any way without a measured response ;)

 

@ supasniper  ..Freely use those plans (M112). Even there all angles are 90 or 45 degrees it is good to cut it on good saw table .. 45 degree angles cut by hand-circular saw tend to be not perfect which greatly complicates further assembling.

 

.in hurry bye

Stipe



Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 05 March 2007 at 2:49am
Originally posted by staiper staiper wrote:

 Booth PD1850 and V18-1200 are suitable for this cabinet.

PD1850 will give a bit more aggressive "dryer" sound than other two noted in post .. all sim. prediction.

 
What about the V18-1000 ? as the V18-1200 seems to be not available in UK. 
 


Posted By: staiper
Date Posted: 05 March 2007 at 6:59am
Originally posted by Tekasis Tekasis wrote:

Originally posted by staiper staiper wrote:

 Booth PD1850 and V18-1200 are suitable for this cabinet.

PD1850 will give a bit more aggressive "dryer" sound than other two noted in post .. all sim. prediction.

 
What about the V18-1000 ? as the V18-1200 seems to be not available in UK. 
 
 
Hi,
 
V18-1000 is very close to PD1850. Will fit (even grooves on panels "J" & "B" are not required if panels and speaker cutout is positioned precse as required) ..but you will lose some LF extencion (under35Hz) in comparison with V18-1200 or L18P300.
 
Best wishes,
            Stipe
 
 


Posted By: madboy
Date Posted: 05 March 2007 at 2:41pm

tell us how much weight  one box HOG Scoop ?

pd1850 = 22 kg.
i dont know weight  two flastness  18mm ply (13 laminate)
1220 mm.  x  2440 mm. how much weight.? 


Posted By: jethrocker
Date Posted: 05 March 2007 at 4:12pm
Someone posted the average weight of various thicknesses of ply the other day..don't know where though. Search it up and you'll be able to  work it out..


Posted By: Mircea Bartic
Date Posted: 05 March 2007 at 5:00pm
I would appreciate somewhere in the neighborhood of 120-140Kg / unit

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Posted By: staiper
Date Posted: 05 March 2007 at 6:27pm
 
.. 95-100kg with PD1850 in cabinet


Posted By: SmokeyJoe
Date Posted: 05 March 2007 at 9:28pm
I'm lovin' that design staiper! Its the best i've seen on this forum in a long time!

I'll probably build a pair for fun in the summer, do some outdoor parties with them...can you smell that barbecue...

And i'll have a spare pair of PD186's to load them with, hmmm, this is gonna be fun!

- Joe.


Posted By: madboy
Date Posted: 06 March 2007 at 1:22am
and little bit from me:)
for this cabinet  i must use HPF tuned about 26 ~ 33 Hz  or NOT?


Posted By: Mircea Bartic
Date Posted: 06 March 2007 at 8:24am
Originally posted by staiper staiper wrote:

 
.. 95-100kg with PD1850 in cabinet


I presume that Weight to be in birch ply

I calculated in MDF, as I can only see this beast used in installs

the P-audio SD21EL monsters subs, we designed, were about 180Kg each (and the outer dimensions were similar)




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Posted By: MarjanM
Date Posted: 06 March 2007 at 9:33am
It will be less in weight than Lab Sub and with more convenient driver. Exactly what i needed.

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Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 08 March 2007 at 5:16am
Originally posted by staiper staiper wrote:

 Both PD1850 and V18-1200 are suitable for this cabinet.

PD1850 will give a bit more aggressive "dryer" sound than other two noted in post .. all sim. prediction.

 
Originally posted by staiper staiper wrote:

Hi,
 
V18-1000 is very close to PD1850. Will fit (even grooves on panels "J" & "B" are not required if panels and speaker cutout is positioned precse as required) ..but you will lose some LF extencion (under35Hz) in comparison with V18-1200 or L18P300.
 
Best wishes,
            Stipe
 
 
Hi again Stipe, you may have seen or read on some threads about a driver called the TurboMax 1200 made by RMJ Loudspeakers ?
 
Anyway, the magnet is not as big as the PD's or the V18's but the depth of the driver is approximately 8.5 inches.
 
What do think about this driver fitting in the chamber of your Hog scoop ?
 
From the brief specs below, do think it would be an ideal choice for the HOG ?
 
depth is 8.25 inches not including front gasket, res. is 32Hz which can be lower if required (26Hz) 
 


Posted By: staiper
Date Posted: 08 March 2007 at 8:06am

@madboy - Speaker unit mounted in Hog Scoop becomes unloaded at freq. below 25Hz so I recommend setting high pass filter (subsonic filter) at 25-30 Hz to prevent unit damage and relieve some power for upper range.

 

@Tekasis - I can't find TSP-s for TurboMax 1200 unit. If magnet structure is same or smaller diameter than P.audio SD18 it may fit even without routed grooves... but I can't tell you for sure without exact side-view dimensions.

 

Best wishes,    

           Stipe



Posted By: Rengade Project
Date Posted: 08 March 2007 at 10:05pm
I have to thank you staiper for this design!!!May build one and load it with OEM Magnum 18LF to test.

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Posted By: madboy
Date Posted: 10 March 2007 at 2:24am
i search many sites but cant find
give me here schematic for HPF filter
 


Posted By: jethrocker
Date Posted: 10 March 2007 at 3:50pm
madboy..you want to build your own HPF?.. search sallen-key high pass filter, or active crossover circuits to find a schematic. There are hundreds about online...


Posted By: madboy
Date Posted: 10 March 2007 at 4:48pm

thanks man , i find hpf filtter



Posted By: Rengade Project
Date Posted: 10 March 2007 at 5:47pm

There are many crossovers that come with high pass filters so you may already have one!



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Posted By: jethrocker
Date Posted: 10 March 2007 at 6:01pm
yep, check your eq too, if you have one.. quite often a variabale high pass on them.


Posted By: madboy
Date Posted: 11 March 2007 at 1:12pm
i think use this circuit
http://users.otenet.gr/~athsam/variable_filter.htm - http://users.otenet.gr/~athsam/variable_filter.htm
and with little corection from me :) variable from  10Hz up to 50 Hz
this frequency range OK or not?


Posted By: CHAMPION
Date Posted: 13 March 2007 at 6:52am
Just 2 Questions
 
1.  Why is the chamber do compact / tight, similar to Microscoops, what advantages / disadvantages does this have with sound ?
 
2. is there a function ofthe baffle being at an angle ?
 
 
Thanks
 


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Posted By: Mircea Bartic
Date Posted: 13 March 2007 at 9:08am
hehe

it's getting warm outside

It smells like hog scoop testing to me

I'll give it a go as soon as I'll return from Musikmesse


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Posted By: jethrocker
Date Posted: 13 March 2007 at 1:49pm
Originally posted by madboy madboy wrote:

i think use this circuit
http://users.otenet.gr/~athsam/variable_filter.htm - http://users.otenet.gr/~athsam/variable_filter.htm
and with little corection from me :) variable from  10Hz up to 50 Hz
this frequency range OK or not?
 
madboy..that cicuit will do the job fine.. though I'd recommend working out the highpass frequency you require for your bins and building it with fixed resistors rather than the twin pot.
This will have a couple of advantages, the first being that no-one can accidently change the setting either robbing you of low end or giving your bins frequencies they don't want. The second is that matching of the two resistors is essential, and matching between the sections on twin pots is always a bit of a problem, even expensive ones.
If you build with fixed resistors, measure from a selection to get an exact match.
 
Another thing to consider..where are you going to put this circuit in your signal chain? Worth putting it in as early as possible, between source and preamp stages if possible, just to gain a bit of headroom through the chain.
 


Posted By: jethrocker
Date Posted: 13 March 2007 at 1:55pm
Originally posted by CHAMPION CHAMPION wrote:

Just 2 Questions
 
1.  Why is the chamber do compact / tight, similar to Microscoops, what advantages / disadvantages does this have with sound ?
 
2. is there a function ofthe baffle being at an angle ?
 
 
Thanks
 
 
Hey Champ.. the chamber issue in scoop designs has been discussed a fair bit, and seems to divide the troops, particularly the roots sound boys who often favour a bigger chamber.
 
I think that a smaller chamber will give a smoother response higher up, and a generally tighter more musical sound. These designs are more suited to drivers with parameters suitable for front horn loading such as 1850s.
Scoops with large rear chambers (to me) sound a bit lower, but less defined and more "flappy" and seem to lack tone higher up.
 
The angled baffle should be fairly obvious.. It makes the baffle part of the final flare extension, giving a larger mouth area and therefore lower cut off for the same size cab.


Posted By: CHAMPION
Date Posted: 14 March 2007 at 4:58am
Cheers, so theese Hogs should give a more tight smoother sound.
 
And other Super / ASS scoop should give a more lazy low slow bass.
 
I suspose it also depends on what type of music you play, hence you boys know.
 
So what would these Hogs be compared to a 186 / 1850 Horn ??
 


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Posted By: jethrocker
Date Posted: 14 March 2007 at 10:52am
Don't think you can compare them to a 186/1850..they're still a scoop or rear loaded horn design with a direct radiating element-rather than a front loaded horn.
There has been some discussion, without any real conclusions, on how this concept could relate to the tapped horn principle.
It's always pretty hard to compare cabs anyway, they all tend to have their individual pros cons and peculiarities.
The Hog is a scoop, just reworked, looks like it will drop lower, and staipers testing supports this. Haven't heard one though so I'm not going to compare it to anything... If I can get my hands on a suitable driver or two I'm going to be very tempted to give them a try though!
 
Edit:Horrific spelling on account of worn webcafe keyboard with no letters left on keys/mad rush to get to work..


Posted By: mykey
Date Posted: 14 March 2007 at 10:53am
if you think the Hog chamber is small, you should see the DubSub chamber
 
@Jethrocker
your bang on mate


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Posted By: TONY.A.S.S.
Date Posted: 14 March 2007 at 12:10pm

What's all this about slow and lazy?
these cabs are installed in some heavy dance clubs.So they can be hard and tight. But as always- signal dependent.


Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 14 March 2007 at 1:22pm
Originally posted by mykey mykey wrote:

if you think the Hog chamber is small, you should see the DubSub chamber. 
 
Are you saying the DubSubs chamber is even smaller Mykey ?
 


Posted By: mykey
Date Posted: 14 March 2007 at 2:27pm
Originally posted by Tekasis Tekasis wrote:

Originally posted by mykey mykey wrote:

if you think the Hog chamber is small, you should see the DubSub chamber. 
 
Are you saying the DubSubs chamber is even smaller Mykey ?
 
no! the girl i was with last night

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Posted By: madboy
Date Posted: 14 March 2007 at 2:38pm

hei boys give here frequency responce of this cabs.

HOG scoop
dubsub scoop
 
and how it is sound with black hip-hop , techno and many more music with
more bass?
 


Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 14 March 2007 at 2:42pm
R U sure mate ??  I thought you like lady boys ?  
 


Posted By: gazman
Date Posted: 14 March 2007 at 2:42pm
...black hip hop?! LOL!
 
I don't think anyones done any proper measurements yet madboy these things are fairly new.


Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 14 March 2007 at 2:44pm
That's new to me "Black Hip Hop"...what's that ?


Posted By: madboy
Date Posted: 14 March 2007 at 2:47pm
i know that :)
eminem
nelly
lil jon
three 6 mafia
and manny more
 
i can give here some mp3 with more bass


Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 14 March 2007 at 2:55pm
So none of the builders on here built the Hog Scoop yet ? What's taking so long ?


Posted By: Static Age
Date Posted: 14 March 2007 at 3:01pm
friend of mine/ forum member pooju is planning to build a pair as part of a new rig he is putting together.
his whole plan sounds very good and i am lending him some space in my lock up to carry out the build, so watch this space mate.


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Posted By: mykey
Date Posted: 14 March 2007 at 3:04pm
champions doing some aswell

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Posted By: madboy
Date Posted: 14 March 2007 at 3:08pm
Nightwish -Wish I Had An Angel.mp3
Yakooza - Cocaine.mp3
azuria - forgive me (c7 meets ozi radio).mp3
Baby - What Happened To That Boy (feat. The Clipse).mp3
Dem Franchize Boyz - Ridin Rims.mp3
Dizzee Rascal - Stand Up Tall.mp3
Lil John  - What U Gon Do.mp3
Nelly - Number 1.mp3
Smujji - KO.mp3
15 Silkk The Shocker feat. Master - We Like Them Girls.mp3
Eminem, DMX, Obie Trice - Go To Sleep.mp3
Khia & Dsd - Dont Trust No Niggas.mp3
Lil Wyte - Oxy Cotton.mp3
Three 6 Mafia - Stomp.mp3
Three 6 Mafia - The End(Late Nite Tip).mp3
Three 6 Mafia - Who Run It.mpg
Juelz Santana ft. Cam'ron - Dipset (Santana's Town).mp3
Metallica - One.mp3
madagascar_5 - popcorn-delta.mp3
 
 
for this moment i give this :)


Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 14 March 2007 at 3:28pm

MadBoy, didn't you know there's a section called "Mixes to download" where  you can drop your tunes off to share under the Un-Moderated area.

http://www.speakerplans.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4332 - http://www.speakerplans.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4332
 
This HOG SCOOP Topic is for the real speaker box bass heads who love power. You get me ?
 


Posted By: mykey
Date Posted: 14 March 2007 at 3:56pm
@madboy
 
http://www.speakerplans.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8898 - http://www.speakerplans.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8898


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Posted By: madboy
Date Posted: 14 March 2007 at 4:05pm

ok :)

im sory for my stypid post :) thank for info in video who give here

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Posted By: jethrocker
Date Posted: 14 March 2007 at 6:10pm
Eminem...Black Hip Hop?? Whatever next?...
 
Off topic I know..but if we were in the pub talking speakers we'd have a laugh too right?


Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 15 March 2007 at 4:41am
Originally posted by CHAMPION CHAMPION wrote:

And other Super / ASS scoop should give a more lazy low slow bass.
 
Originally posted by TONY.A.S.S. TONY.A.S.S. wrote:

What's all this about slow and lazy?
these cabs are installed in some heavy dance clubs. So they can be hard and tight. But as always- signal dependent.
 
I'd like to know too.
 
As you mention dance clubs, I've just seen those 2 ASS Scoops back on E-bay again which came out of Hammersmith Palais.
 


Posted By: CHAMPION
Date Posted: 18 April 2007 at 4:14am
Mr.Staiper
 
When designing your cabs can you bear in mind the fact that they are big and heavy and will need handles. Please make room or enough clearence for Handles...theres no good putting handles in the bottom of the horn path where the weight is unbalanced !
 
 
I managed to squeez in handles in the chamber when making your Micor Scoops
http://imageshack.us/">
 


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Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 18 April 2007 at 5:46am
Originally posted by CHAMPION CHAMPION wrote:

Cheers, so theese Hogs should give a more tight smoother sound.
 
And other Super / ASS scoop should give a more lazy low slow bass.
 
I suspose it also depends on what type of music you play, hence you boys know.
 
So what would these Hogs be compared to a 186 / 1850 Horn ??
 


Superscoops have smaller rear chamber than most scoops.

Was told by 186 owners, 186 horns have no where near the SPL or deep bass scoops produce, but have flat responce down to  45hz in pairs or 40hz in groups of six, and excellent for live material outside.



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Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 09 July 2007 at 7:56pm
Originally posted by Static Age Static Age wrote:

friend of mine/ forum member pooju is planning to build a pair as part of a new rig he is putting together.
his whole plan sounds very good and i am lending him some space in my lock up to carry out the build, so watch this space mate.
Update ? Still none around ?
 


Posted By: login4
Date Posted: 09 July 2007 at 9:21pm
ye whats going on. 

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Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 03 August 2007 at 11:16am
Still no Hogs in the UK ? Find that hard to believe! They must be a few secret ones around.


Posted By: Bryan M
Date Posted: 03 August 2007 at 11:39am
i cant seem to find the plans? anyone sort me out please?


Posted By: Bryan M
Date Posted: 03 August 2007 at 11:43am
scratch that i got them


Posted By: Static Age
Date Posted: 03 August 2007 at 11:48am
Originally posted by Tekasis Tekasis wrote:

Originally posted by Static Age Static Age wrote:

friend of mine/ forum member pooju is planning to build a pair as part of a new rig he is putting together.
his whole plan sounds very good and i am lending him some space in my lock up to carry out the build, so watch this space mate.
Update ? Still none around ?
 
 
no mate, the hog project has been side lined for the moment.
 
 


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Posted By: Jhodas
Date Posted: 06 August 2007 at 4:58pm
SOMEONE BUILD A HOG!!! I'd do it but I have the woodworking skills of an anatomically impaired fish. In a box. Full of sawdust.

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Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 06 August 2007 at 6:49pm
Originally posted by Jhodas Jhodas wrote:

SOMEONE BUILD A HOG!!!
Scoop builders (the ones I know of) - Insomnia, Shortman, Ultimate, what you lot saying ? If you build one each, they be 3 in the UK, One in the South, one in the middle & one up North LOL


Posted By: Insomnia
Date Posted: 07 August 2007 at 12:19am
LOL
ill build one when i gt time and use it as a demo


Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 07 August 2007 at 10:41pm
Originally posted by Insomnia Insomnia wrote:

LOL
ill build one when i gt time and use it as a demo


Don't forget I'm on that cab waiting list mister... You'll have to build Hogs while your sleeping...

But with all this foot & mouth disease going around, maybe you should forget hogs, and stick to USB's & Mid Tops.




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Posted By: VPAS
Date Posted: 08 August 2007 at 9:37am
the link to the plans dosent seem to be working, bit of help??

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Posted By: VPAS
Date Posted: 08 August 2007 at 9:44am
found em!

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Posted By: Jhodas
Date Posted: 05 September 2007 at 1:01pm
Still no HOGs in the UK?

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Posted By: RiddimKid
Date Posted: 05 September 2007 at 4:07pm

There should be some by now Confused 

Cammmm oonnnnnnn


Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 05 September 2007 at 4:36pm
A few of us could chip in & get one sorted just to hear what it's like with various drivers then at the end, decide who want's to keep it then they can pay back all who chipped in!!!
That way one will be around. 


Posted By: mykey
Date Posted: 05 September 2007 at 4:39pm
what if its sh-t?
I like your thinking though.


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Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 05 September 2007 at 4:49pm
Originally posted by mykey mykey wrote:

what if its sh-t?
I like your thinking though.
Then that way a few lose a little bit & not one person lose the lot, then it can be chopped up & used as panels for something else. I got faith though - It'll be off the hook.
This is how we used to get equipment back in the days when you had good mates around!
 


Posted By: mykey
Date Posted: 06 September 2007 at 3:55am
Could be used as a Hog house?
Could be interesting when one of them lets rip?


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Posted By: TDA-Audio
Date Posted: 21 September 2007 at 8:10am
that say?
if driver of the greater size   21" INSTALL to  HOG???



Posted By: DrWoofer.com
Date Posted: 04 October 2007 at 12:55am
The link doesn't work...


Posted By: Heathrow_B_line
Date Posted: 04 October 2007 at 1:49am
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Produce a killer sound. Take no prisoners.


Posted By: DrWoofer.com
Date Posted: 05 October 2007 at 12:49am
ThanksSmile

Is there any Frequency response graphs?


Posted By: biotec
Date Posted: 05 October 2007 at 9:13am
If anyone makes any, I'd like to try putting my PD1850s in them. If they work nice I'll sell the 1850 horns and build 6 Hogs.
 
If nobody makes them I'll try putting a couple together in the new year.


Posted By: Jhodas
Date Posted: 05 October 2007 at 12:01pm
dont think the fs on 1850s is low enough to make good use of a hog. Similar story with mykey's dubsub. 186 would be better, lower power handling mitigated by greater efficiency of the horn. I think the hog needs to be tested with a lot of drivers as it's pretty much an unknown at the moment.

SOMEONE BUILD ONE!!!!!


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Until the Lions have their own historians, tales of hunting will always glorify the hunter.


Posted By: DrWoofer.com
Date Posted: 05 October 2007 at 12:14pm
Nobody has built one?

Is this only a plan?


Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 05 October 2007 at 12:18pm
Still no specs on the Turbomax driver (both 900 & 1200 models) but it can still be tested in a Hog once built!!!


Posted By: biotec
Date Posted: 05 October 2007 at 12:22pm
I only want to try the 1850 because i have 7 of them. I think the new void 1200 would be the perfect choice but it's an expensive thing to splash out on for testing purposes.


Posted By: Calculus
Date Posted: 13 October 2007 at 2:44pm
i have specs for turbomax and am waiting for stiaper to tell me wether it can work...
before  buy them for the plan of hogs.

test hog will be built in the next 2 weeks.


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Always a compromise, You can't have everything...

Where would you put it all.


Posted By: Jhodas
Date Posted: 16 October 2007 at 12:02am
Calculus I'm on my knees begging and pleading with you to post results here...

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Until the Lions have their own historians, tales of hunting will always glorify the hunter.


Posted By: tweeter box
Date Posted: 21 October 2007 at 2:38pm

Allo people Tongue

Just seen the design of this HOG SCOOP! looks like the real deal but has anyone built it or heard it yet??
 
Nice design design by the way (to whoever designed it)
 
Bout time there was a change to the "conventional scoop" lol 


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PRECISION SOUND SYSTEM.

Feeding the peoples needs for Roots Music.

Strictly premium grade reggae and dub steppers from the early 70's to present day.


Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 31 October 2007 at 9:28pm
Originally posted by Jhodas Jhodas wrote:

Calculus I'm on my knees begging and pleading with you to post results here...
LOL 
Originally posted by CHAMPION CHAMPION wrote:

So what would these Hogs be compared to a 186 / 1850 Horn ??
 
Anyone else have any idea ?
 
Originally posted by Calculus Calculus wrote:

test hog will be built in the next 2 weeks.
2 weeks today Calculus - How's progress going ? Is your plan still going ahead ?
 


Posted By: Jhodas
Date Posted: 01 November 2007 at 12:23am
*Jhodas holds his breath*

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Until the Lions have their own historians, tales of hunting will always glorify the hunter.


Posted By: tweeter box
Date Posted: 02 November 2007 at 7:46pm
Staiper would the bit of wood where the speaker sits on (circle cut) need bracing? support?

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PRECISION SOUND SYSTEM.

Feeding the peoples needs for Roots Music.

Strictly premium grade reggae and dub steppers from the early 70's to present day.


Posted By: staiper
Date Posted: 03 November 2007 at 9:48am
Originally posted by tweeter box tweeter box wrote:

Staiper would the bit of wood where the speaker sits on (circle cut) need bracing? support?
 
If good glue and screws are used there is no need for extra bracing of speaker panel "A" .. panel "B" already gives ptetty good support-bracing to panel "A".
 
If you want to be extra-assured you can put (glue/screw) some betten behind sides of panel "A" - (only in speaker chamber - where panel "A" connects to side panels "M" and "N") Approve
 
Stipe
 


Posted By: Father-Francis
Date Posted: 10 November 2007 at 9:28pm
hey Stipe what would you say if I build 4 Hog Scoops try them out see how they sound, I´ve been following the talk with Mike an Levy and all them others ,would like to hear them myself.EmbarrassedSmile 


Posted By: staiper
Date Posted: 12 November 2007 at 9:39am
Originally posted by FAO FAO wrote:

hey Stipe what would you say if I build 4 Hog Scoops try them out see how they sound, I´ve been following the talk with Mike an Levy and all them others ,would like to hear them myself.EmbarrassedSmile 
 
 
Hi, Smile
 

What I would say is.. GO FOR IT..

Stack those 2 on 2 .. pump in few kW-s and..  get blown away.

 

...BTW I am preparing few new designs... two types of mini-scoops ( one is shortman's type large-chamberer,  second is pure scoop aproach) , new mid-tops, DIY line arrays, some relatively compact bass surprise WinkWinkWink..Etc.. 

 

..Designs will not be available before January-February of 2008.

 I first have to prototype build and test-tune them myself before plans are offered to others.

 

Best wishes,

        Stipe

 

P.S.

Through next 2 months I will not be frequently on-forum due to my other obligations Cool(unrelated to speakers). Please if someone have some questions mail me @ staiper@yahoo.com



Posted By: tommysb
Date Posted: 12 November 2007 at 12:16pm
Stipe,

You da man!

At least you live where there's good speaker prototyping climate!

Winter sucks for building :(


Posted By: Jhodas
Date Posted: 12 November 2007 at 1:33pm
Go Go FAO!!!
We've all been waiting for months to find out what the HOG sounds like!!!


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Until the Lions have their own historians, tales of hunting will always glorify the hunter.


Posted By: Father-Francis
Date Posted: 12 November 2007 at 3:50pm
Originally posted by staiper staiper wrote:

Originally posted by FAO FAO wrote:

hey Stipe what would you say if I build 4 Hog Scoops try them out see how they sound, I´ve been following the talk with Mike an Levy and all them others ,would like to hear them myself.EmbarrassedSmile 
 
 
Hi, Smile
 

What I would say is.. GO FOR IT..

Stack those 2 on 2 .. pump in few kW-s and..  get blown away.

 

...BTW I am preparing few new designs... two types of mini-scoops ( one is shortman's type large-chamberer,  second is pure scoop aproach) , new mid-tops, DIY line arrays, some relatively compact bass surprise WinkWinkWink..Etc.. 

 

..Designs will not be available before January-February of 2008.

 I first have to prototype build and test-tune them myself before plans are offered to others.

 

Best wishes,

        Stipe

 

P.S.

Through next 2 months I will not be frequently on-forum due to my other obligations Cool(unrelated to speakers). Please if someone have some questions mail me @ staiper@yahoo.com


give thanks soon let you know how it goes



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