Picked up my PCH Audio 21" mini scoops yesterday
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Topic: Picked up my PCH Audio 21" mini scoops yesterday
Posted By: razorray
Subject: Picked up my PCH Audio 21" mini scoops yesterday
Date Posted: 18 November 2014 at 5:14pm
I Picked up my 21" mini scoops from Joe yesterday and I must say I am well impressed with the build.. Real solid construction and still relatively light. Paint and finish looks great as well. I cant wait to put some power through them.. My PD2150 drivers are in, so tomorrow I will give them a good test with my Preamp and a 3K amp.         |
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Posted By: KidCreole
Date Posted: 18 November 2014 at 5:19pm
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Pretty close to a reflex. That mouth is almost a port. ------------- Mykey Wattco |
Posted By: KidCreole
Date Posted: 18 November 2014 at 5:29pm
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I forgot about you. I have the 21" in the back of the van. Been over to Becton a few times to HSS too. If you're not 100% about the new ones, ill drop it off to you for a play around. So did you buy these without hearing them? ------------- Mykey Wattco |
Posted By: Heathrow_B_line
Date Posted: 18 November 2014 at 5:30pm
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i really hope you like them but that seems like an awfully small cab for a monster driver to preform its best in will you be bridging a 3kwrms amp into each scoop? please keep us updated on your testing and thoughts if you dont like the sound remember to run the pd2150s in to loosen them up if the sound is still not to your liking try wadding the chamber fully also try moving them around wit those handles but from experience i like the handles right of the edge of the mouth and the back corner as this makes it easier to go up/down stairs looking good though ------------- Produce a killer sound. Take no prisoners. |
Posted By: razorray
Date Posted: 18 November 2014 at 5:56pm
I here you Mykey, But I remember you stating that the PD2150 wasn't the ideal driver in your 21" minis. I think you stated it was made for the PD 21" neo version.
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KidCreole wrote:Posted By: Heathrow_B_line
Date Posted: 18 November 2014 at 5:58pm
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ppl have told me in the past the the pd2150 and pd2151 are very similar is that incorrect? ------------- Produce a killer sound. Take no prisoners. |
Posted By: razorray
Date Posted: 18 November 2014 at 5:58pm
They are new recones so I will run them in.. I will just run each scoop a side on the amp.
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Posted By: Heathrow_B_line
Date Posted: 18 November 2014 at 6:08pm
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i would be interested to hear them next time you take them out ------------- Produce a killer sound. Take no prisoners. |
Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 18 November 2014 at 7:51pm
Which amp? ------------- Global Depopulation - Alive and Killing. |
Posted By: paulus
Date Posted: 18 November 2014 at 8:09pm
Nice tidy and sturdy looking build, would like to here then to next to a proven 18" full scoop  ------------- TRENDSETTER SOUND SYSTEM |
Posted By: KidCreole
Date Posted: 18 November 2014 at 8:40pm
 Neo is all I had------------- Mykey Wattco |
Posted By: KidCreole
Date Posted: 18 November 2014 at 8:43pm
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Your ferrite would have been a better option is what I meant ------------- Mykey Wattco |
Posted By: Audio_Stash
Date Posted: 19 November 2014 at 1:27am
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Posted By: Audio_Stash
Date Posted: 19 November 2014 at 1:55pm
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Posted By: KidCreole
Date Posted: 19 November 2014 at 2:14pm
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No I'm not going to think about it. Did you demonstrate these before he bought them? ------------- Mykey Wattco |
Posted By: razorray
Date Posted: 19 November 2014 at 10:12pm
I tested them for a few hours today and they sound pretty good. I haven't heard many 21" scoops to compare them to, But they sound heavy and well controlled. I was impressed with the output from the box at low volumes. The bass roles of quite nice and does travel a bit. I am not sure what the box output will be when driven hard. When I got them made I should of got the mouth 3" bigger. I played them without the grills and the cones really are well controlled. It seems that the driver chamber is almost perfect. I only played them at home so I really would like to here these driven hard. I used a 3K link's amp and a Charlie pre to run them. Any way thats my sceientific testing method..
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Posted By: Heathrow_B_line
Date Posted: 19 November 2014 at 10:38pm
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you should test them against a good 18" full scoop and see where your scoops rank ------------- Produce a killer sound. Take no prisoners. |
Posted By: KidCreole
Date Posted: 19 November 2014 at 10:49pm
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Posted By: KidCreole
Date Posted: 19 November 2014 at 10:51pm
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Posted By: razorray
Date Posted: 19 November 2014 at 11:01pm
Certainly is. Some of the best sounding horns I have ever heard.. |
Posted By: razorray
Date Posted: 19 November 2014 at 11:09pm
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Posted By: Audio_Stash
Date Posted: 19 November 2014 at 11:44pm
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Posted By: Tweeter_Box
Date Posted: 21 November 2014 at 11:03pm
who makes them fibre glass section? |
Posted By: bass*en*mass
Date Posted: 21 November 2014 at 11:17pm
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^ wasnt that mr. hurleys work from a few, few years ago? In this case, true, not that much happened for the last decades other than little design changes, slightly more powerful drivers etc. - would be quite interested in direct comparison.. ;) |
Posted By: razorray
Date Posted: 21 November 2014 at 11:27pm
who makes them fibre glass section? [/QUOT Old Wattco stuff. Mykey. |
Posted By: KidCreole
Date Posted: 21 November 2014 at 11:35pm
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Posted By: bass*en*mass
Date Posted: 21 November 2014 at 11:40pm
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would fancy a "clash" now and old tbh. ... ;) |
Posted By: razorray
Date Posted: 21 November 2014 at 11:44pm
The MH.. Did it mean your name or Mid/High?
You don't see many around. Did you sell many? |
Posted By: KidCreole
Date Posted: 21 November 2014 at 11:56pm
MH122 BB215  MH122 rear access panel  ------------- Mykey Wattco |
Posted By: KidCreole
Date Posted: 21 November 2014 at 11:58pm
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Posted By: KidCreole
Date Posted: 21 November 2014 at 11:59pm
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Posted By: bass*en*mass
Date Posted: 22 November 2014 at 12:07am
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;) work in progress...! |
Posted By: razorray
Date Posted: 22 November 2014 at 12:13am
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Cool. Any time. east London based. 21" scoop comparison as well :))
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Posted By: KidCreole
Date Posted: 22 November 2014 at 12:16am
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Seems it's a day out at Bee's........Marmite and cucumber sandwichs and lashing and lashings of tea ------------- Mykey Wattco |
Posted By: razorray
Date Posted: 22 November 2014 at 12:24am
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Posted By: bass*en*mass
Date Posted: 22 November 2014 at 12:25am
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nothing confirmed as of yet gents, need to check with all involved thoroughly upfront re. date and possible venue etc., surely we could work something out but only time well tell for now?! ;) |
Posted By: KidCreole
Date Posted: 22 November 2014 at 12:33am
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OK ------------- Mykey Wattco |
Posted By: MarjanM
Date Posted: 22 November 2014 at 12:51am
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Mykey, as i told you once earlier. Start making those horns again. I just love them. ------------- Marjan Milosevic MM-Acoustics www.mm-acoustics.com https://www.facebook.com/pages/MM-Acoustics/608901282527713 |
Posted By: KidCreole
Date Posted: 22 November 2014 at 1:05am
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Thanks Making and selling are two completely different things. The first is much easier than the second ------------- Mykey Wattco |
Posted By: Tweeter_Box
Date Posted: 22 November 2014 at 9:46am
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Mykey do you still make them? price? would be interested in the just the fibre part |
Posted By: cravings
Date Posted: 22 November 2014 at 10:32am
| they really do look fantastic. |
Posted By: KidCreole
Date Posted: 22 November 2014 at 11:30am
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Yes I do were youtalking to me or razorray cravings? ------------- Mykey Wattco |
Posted By: razorray
Date Posted: 22 November 2014 at 12:58pm
| I am sure Mykey sells the SP10s and SP12s at very good prices.. |
Posted By: cravings
Date Posted: 22 November 2014 at 3:20pm
| you, the shiney mid high horns look great. and by all accounts sound good too. i'm sure you could sell some of them now alright. |
Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 22 November 2014 at 4:36pm
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Let the thread jacking cease. Continue chat here please... Dedicated 12" Mid Horn Thread.. http://forum.speakerplans.com/topic89584_post897255.html#897255" rel="nofollow - http://forum.speakerplans.com/topic89584_post897255.html#897255 ------------- Global Depopulation - Alive and Killing. |
Posted By: corell
Date Posted: 22 November 2014 at 6:12pm
+1 would buy some... |
Posted By: Audio_Stash
Date Posted: 23 November 2014 at 12:30am
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Posted By: Cyklist
Date Posted: 23 November 2014 at 9:52am
+2 ------------- purple monkey dishwasher |
Posted By: Tweeter_Box
Date Posted: 23 November 2014 at 1:05pm
+3 |
Posted By: MarjanM
Date Posted: 23 November 2014 at 1:25pm
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Now show the man the money and it will happen :-). ------------- Marjan Milosevic MM-Acoustics www.mm-acoustics.com https://www.facebook.com/pages/MM-Acoustics/608901282527713 |
Posted By: Dub Specialist Sound
Date Posted: 23 November 2014 at 2:13pm
right this is going to be used frequently from now on...  ------------- Musical Roots Reggae Vibration is Life! for music is sound...sound is vibration...vibration is energy... and energy begets life. Therein lies my passion!...MUSIC IS LIFE... |
Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 23 November 2014 at 2:23pm
Yup... ------------- Global Depopulation - Alive and Killing. |
Posted By: Dub Specialist Sound
Date Posted: 23 November 2014 at 5:27pm
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------------- Musical Roots Reggae Vibration is Life! for music is sound...sound is vibration...vibration is energy... and energy begets life. Therein lies my passion!...MUSIC IS LIFE... |
Posted By: razorray
Date Posted: 24 November 2014 at 1:13pm
took boxes to the lockup so no more testing for a while.
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Posted By: luton_soundman
Date Posted: 14 December 2016 at 11:26pm
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Right, 2 years on how these play?? Always been a fan of small boxes that play low and heavy. How do they throw? Whats the 30/40hz like? Isit more of a 30-50hz monster or 50+ monster?? Cheers ------------- Sound Hire/Sales new/used equipment. |
Posted By: empiresoundsystem
Date Posted: 15 December 2016 at 6:16am
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Intrigued on how these have performed too. Don't see 21'' PD being used alot (nothing wrong with that, just an observation). I agree that the horn mouth looks too small, however just could be because a 21'' driver is loaded in, and it's askewing peoples minds eye of what they normally see with miniscoops. Any photos during build to see the chamber etc? I swear I've also seen people saying that horn mouths on scoops are just aesthetic and that the business end of it happens up at the top of the cab, however I think that was some discussions in what part the curve of the scoop has to play on overall sound. Look like very nice builds though, and I'm a big fan of mini scoops after seeing what have HMAudio's have done first hand, can be deadly when powered and controlled right. ------------- Failed DJ and fumbling through the world of pro audio. Give me a thumb and make me feel better: www.facebook.com/empireAVWorks |
Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 15 December 2016 at 12:58pm
Learned person here once said, Mini Scoops have ports not horn mouths, whereas full Scoops are proper rear loaded horns, with throat, horn, back chamber, horn mouth. ------------- Global Depopulation - Alive and Killing. |
Posted By: corell
Date Posted: 15 December 2016 at 1:24pm
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A mini scoop is a quarter wave tube/ transmission line to be precise. You can check whether something is this or a real scoop/rearloaded horn by looking at the impedance plot. A true scoop will only show small peaks and an overall increased impedance in the upper passband while a "mini scoop" will show large peaks (and therefor higher q resonances in between) like a reflex enclosure. |
Posted By: empiresoundsystem
Date Posted: 15 December 2016 at 1:57pm
Every day is a school day  ------------- Failed DJ and fumbling through the world of pro audio. Give me a thumb and make me feel better: www.facebook.com/empireAVWorks |
Posted By: EDDJ - OBVN
Date Posted: 10 February 2026 at 5:31pm
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I currently have a pair with the cabinets and ‘fancy access doors’ Will be for sale soon with brand new B&C if anyone here happened to be interested, mykey told me these are the original plasa1997 cabinets!
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