JBL 2242H in 186 or big reflex?
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Forum Name: 1850 and 186 horns
Forum Description: Discussion / Questions about the 1850 and 186 horns
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Topic: JBL 2242H in 186 or big reflex?
Posted By: Hugo Biermann
Subject: JBL 2242H in 186 or big reflex?
Date Posted: 06 March 2007 at 7:02am
| We have 4 of these 18's laying around doing nothing. EBP is 120 and BL is 23. Do you guys think they will survive in the 186. The other option is a normal old 170l box. JBLMAN, ROG?? |
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Posted By: mobiele eenheid
Date Posted: 06 March 2007 at 11:23am
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Really depends on what you're going to use it for.
186 horn, will not go low as stand alone but will be much louder as reflex, will go lower in stacks. With 4 in stack, preferably used for large parties inside or medium parties outside.
Basreflex, will go low standalone, can be used standalone, larger stacks will only improve SPL-wise. Preferably used for small to medium/large parties inside or small/medium parties outside.
The above should only be implemented as a rule of thumb.
Wkr Johan
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Posted By: Hugo Biermann
Date Posted: 07 March 2007 at 9:35am
| I know all of that. I want to know if theyre gonna survive in the horns. |
Posted By: mobiele eenheid
Date Posted: 07 March 2007 at 1:59pm
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My bad,
Everything looks fine as it is, except that they seem te be on the light side. I think it's a border line case. Personally I would give it a go in small stacks and up to AES-rating, but wouldn't want to be the final judge in this.
Wkr Johan
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Posted By: Hugo Biermann
Date Posted: 08 March 2007 at 2:18am
| It will be two stacks of two. powered with at leas an 3600vz. |
Posted By: djtosco
Date Posted: 08 March 2007 at 9:24am
| I think there isn't any problem with stack of two, and less than 1000W/cab. The 2242 has a light cone, but it is succesully used in horns, for example in the JBL ASH6118. |
Posted By: Hugo Biermann
Date Posted: 09 March 2007 at 6:14am
| After looking at the driver again, I decided not to go the horn route. The paper is quite thin... They are guaranteed to be fed well in excess of 1K. So we are just going to put them into some single Reflex boxes. Me thinks the thing will fall apart in the 186... |
Posted By: COWFOOT
Date Posted: 11 March 2007 at 6:37pm
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Btw: the JBL ASH6118 has dimensions of 22.3"H X 56.4"W X 50.7"D weighs 351 lbs.
My gut feeling is that the 2242 is not an ideal long horn driver.
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Posted By: Insomnia
Date Posted: 12 March 2007 at 11:20pm
| LEVYTE EMPTY INBOX MATE |
Posted By: Hugo Biermann
Date Posted: 18 January 2008 at 5:27am
Finally built the boxes. Tested them middle December. They went into exact copies of the JBL SRX718 cabs. They are SOOOOOO much nicer than those other SRX excuses for 18's. ------------- www.aggressiveaudio.co.za |
Posted By: Hugo Biermann
Date Posted: 19 January 2008 at 4:13am
------------- www.aggressiveaudio.co.za |
Posted By: rezsbc
Date Posted: 19 January 2008 at 2:01pm
Sorry what exactly do you mean by that? The drivers in the SRX718 and 728 aren't up to it?
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Three-Bee wrote:Posted By: Hugo Biermann
Date Posted: 19 January 2008 at 4:22pm
No, Not compared to the 2242H's (in the same cabs). Same amps, same test, 2242's = tighter, louder and just better! I have been working with those SRX's for the past 2.5jears. Those bass bins are sh*t, except if you want to create a 40Hz standing wave in the venue....
------------- www.aggressiveaudio.co.za |
Posted By: Hugo Biermann
Date Posted: 19 January 2008 at 4:44pm
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Some proof: Look at the pic below. If you understand what that is saying you will see that the 2242 is so much better. Yes, The 2268H has more Xmax[according to JBL] but its as deaf as a post. Low No., Low Sensitivity and f**king slow. You waste money to get output out of the ting,what were they thinking when they made those things? Music don't just contain notes below 50Hz!  ------------- www.aggressiveaudio.co.za |
Posted By: Hugo Biermann
Date Posted: 06 July 2009 at 8:51pm
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An update on the weekley abuse that these cabs are still enduring. They still sound better than the OEM cab and we cant get them to die either. The boxes needs painting again because the guys prefer taking the home buit boxes out.... Even had the local distributors listening to them in an A/B with the OEM's, and they shat themselves when they heard the backyard built cabs. They couldn't believe how sh*tty the OEM boxes sound compared. f**k THE NEW JBL KIT OLDSCHOOL IS STILL COOL! ------------- www.aggressiveaudio.co.za |
Posted By: MartinGajta
Date Posted: 01 September 2009 at 6:06am
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Please,can you give me bass reflex dimension,I also have two of them on shelf so it would be easy to make srx clone.Since it is simple bass reflex box I assume that box dimension from their site is ok to start with... Thank You Martin Gajta |
Posted By: Jules123
Date Posted: 09 November 2009 at 3:19am
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You got a plan of the SRX718 boxes? or dimensions? |
Posted By: organeux
Date Posted: 03 August 2010 at 5:42pm
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About JBL SRX 718 and 728 The technology of these cabinets is fabulous, research and knowledge of JBL (more than 60 years) is up to date. Sound is simply perfect, punchy, and incredible of precision. It would be too much easy to buy wood and building the same, NO, you laugh. It's not simply wood and ability because JBL would stoped its factory ! It's so much more ! Have great succes JBL pro. the world leading factory ------------- hammond organ player sinc e1977 and user of fabulous and unrivaled JBL real manufactory products on stage and in studio Here in EUROPE, we "love" JBL |
Posted By: organeux
Date Posted: 03 August 2010 at 5:44pm
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About JBL SRX 718 and 728 The technology of these cabinets is fabulous, research and knowledge of JBL (more than 60 years) is up to date. Sound is simply perfect, punchy, and incredible of precision. It would be too much easy to buy wood and building the same, NO, you laugh. It's not simply wood and ability because JBL would stoped its factory ! It's so much more !  This information is not really serious. I speak as a real pro sound maker using JBL since 1977. Have great succes JBL pro. the world leading factory ------------- hammond organ player sinc e1977 and user of fabulous and unrivaled JBL real manufactory products on stage and in studio Here in EUROPE, we "love" JBL |
Posted By: trance addict
Date Posted: 05 August 2010 at 4:40pm
Organeux, you're already a true pain in the ass on pro audio french forums. We're already not loved by the Brits, no need to throw oil on fire 
------------- "There are two kinds of fools, One says-this is old and therefore good. The other says-this is new and therefore better." -Bob Katz |
Posted By: that-guy-rob
Date Posted: 13 August 2010 at 5:18pm
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I don't know if this is helpful for this discussion, but I'm currently comparing the spec sheets for the JBL SRX718S and the JBL ASB6118 (an installation model) which uses the 2242H driver. On the back side of the spec sheets the frequency response graph looks somewhat better for the ASB6118 (2242H) than for the SRX718S (2268H) with a fairly flat response extending to a -3dB point of 35Hz compared to 40Hz. I came across this forum as I am trying to decide between these two subwoofers for use in a House of Worship. The ASB6118 retails for $250 more than the SRX718S, but that may be simply due to a smaller market for the installation products. Here are the two spec sheets:
ASB6618, with 2242H driver: http://www.jblpro.com/catalog/support/getfile.aspx?doctype=3&docid=672 - http://www.jblpro.com/catalog/support/getfile.aspx?doctype=3&docid=672
SRX718S, with 2268H driver: http://www.jblpro.com/catalog/support/getfile.aspx?docid=823&doctype=3 - http://www.jblpro.com/catalog/support/getfile.aspx?docid=823&doctype=3
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