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Topic: soundsystem reggae,dub,stepper
Posted By: Kaschpa
Subject: soundsystem reggae,dub,stepper
Date Posted: 18 June 2015 at 5:21pm
Hi everyone,

we decided to build a soundsystem for reggae, dub and steppers music. we have got 4 scoops with beyma 18g50 drivers. now we need the mid section and top section. at the end it should be a 3-way system (in the future perhaps a 4 way-system) .

we dont know what the better choice is.. to have 15" or 18" mid boxes as kickbins or bassreflex?

also i have no clue what are good drivers for the top/high section and what design we should pick. would be very nice if u can give me some tips for the constructionpart.

thank you very much in advance for your answers.

best regards

Ulli



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Posted By: cookie-dj
Date Posted: 18 June 2015 at 6:34pm
15" is the prefered kick driver, however some 18" plans are available such as the USB and ES18 designs. Double 15" reflex is a cheaper and easier option, depending on amp power/size of audience of course as horns are more sensitive. But ideally you want to keep vocals out if your kick bins so maybe something like the X15 design on the plans page could do you as an all-in-one option .

Edit - posted without finishing



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Posted By: BSO
Date Posted: 18 June 2015 at 7:45pm
Me see wah yuh ah do bredda & it all soun good but question fi yuh...,why do yuh warn fi look like & soun like all di other soun dem from roun di way....?? Try & come different & not like di norm wah out deyh now as most soun now look & soun di same which is boring....,noh true...???


Posted By: king david
Date Posted: 18 June 2015 at 8:36pm
in a 3 way system there's no 'kick' box, my suggestion is
4 x 18" scoops bass
4 x 15" mid
2 x very good 1,4" comp driver for the tops


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Posted By: krazyneil
Date Posted: 18 June 2015 at 9:19pm
Originally posted by BSO BSO wrote:

Me see wah yuh ah do bredda & it all soun good but question fi yuh...,why do yuh warn fi look like & soun like all di other soun dem from roun di way....?? Try & come different & not like di norm wah out deyh now as most soun now look & soun di same which is boring....,noh true...???
 
can someone translate into english please


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Posted By: cookie-dj
Date Posted: 18 June 2015 at 9:22pm
Originally posted by krazyneil krazyneil wrote:

Originally posted by BSO BSO wrote:

Me see wah yuh ah do bredda & it all soun good but question fi yuh...,why do yuh warn fi look like & soun like all di other soun dem from roun di way....?? Try & come different & not like di norm wah out deyh now as most soun now look & soun di same which is boring....,noh true...???

 
can someone translate into english please


I see what your trying to do mate. It will sound good but I have a question for you... Why do you want it to look and sound like the other sound systems around?
Try something different and most sound systems look and sound the same and its boring. Am I wrong?

there

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Posted By: jammin75
Date Posted: 18 June 2015 at 9:23pm
it is in english LOL


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Posted By: app
Date Posted: 18 June 2015 at 9:44pm
What are the biggest problems/benefits of using a 12" as mid or "kick"?


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Posted By: all bass
Date Posted: 19 June 2015 at 7:22am
Originally posted by app app wrote:

What are the biggest problems/benefits of using a 12" as mid or "kick"?
- Moving less air... 

+ Lighter cone so "faster", can play higher



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Posted By: app
Date Posted: 19 June 2015 at 10:11am
Originally posted by all bass all bass wrote:

Originally posted by app app wrote:

What are the biggest problems/benefits of using a 12" as mid or "kick"?
- Moving less air... 

+ Lighter cone so "faster", can play higher



There was talk in some other thread that some ass and martin 12" were "the punchiest things" or something like that.

Arent the "air moving" kick frequencies under 100hz?


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Posted By: valve head777
Date Posted: 19 June 2015 at 11:14am
i find it hard to enjoy standing by a stack which has kick bins. Reggae to me should be warm, and i find kick bins just add a hard edge which makes me feel like i'm being punched in the head.

Also, why copy what other people are building?


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Posted By: app
Date Posted: 19 June 2015 at 11:54am
Is it impossible to get the "kick" from the midtops if using scoops?

Or are the scoops so loud that they need a dedicated kick bin or what would be the problem of getting the kick from a midtop with for example 15" woofer?




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Posted By: all bass
Date Posted: 19 June 2015 at 12:01pm
The "problem" with scoops is the dip in frequency response. if you have a top that is OK when crossed ~80hz, 2x12 / 2x15" reflex, then you wouldn't need a kick bin. 

But a lot of people choose to use short horn mid cabinets, like the MT122 or some of those old Eminence cookbook stuff, that don't really go below ~180hz. In this case you need something above the scoop to cover the upper bass/lower mid frequencies. In popular terms.. A kick bin.


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Posted By: Kaschpa
Date Posted: 19 June 2015 at 1:04pm
thanks for your answers. please correct me if i'm wrong. it is better for a 3 way-system to build for example a 2 15" bass reflex because of the wider range in frequencys.

what about a 4 18" lowmid bassreflex (like a 18" g-sub) - 4 12" midhigh (dont know what a preferred plan would be- any suggestions?) - and 2 1,4" comp horns for high section.  - in case of a 4way-system

is it better to combine the midhigh and highs?




Posted By: AlmostSalty
Date Posted: 29 June 2015 at 7:03pm
I think you would be happier with a 4 way system for reggae/dub, scoops don't play what i would call "bass" well, they play "sub" brilliant, but as said they have a huge dip around 70 to 90 so in a 3way system your tops would be spending a lot energy trying to keep up with subs and it will sound bad, unbalanced.

BUT i all depends on money money money. If you have enough then build yourself some bass/kick bins that cover that 70hz dip and up too your tops. HD15 good with scoops, a classic choice in sound building. If your wallet is light then start 3 way and upgrade too 4 way when possible. Anything is better than nothing :)



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