Saxon & Luv Injection
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Topic: Saxon & Luv Injection
Posted By: championdrei
Subject: Saxon & Luv Injection
Date Posted: 22 August 2015 at 12:06pm
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Anyone going to the dance on 12th September in elephant & castle I think can't find the flyer at the moment. Who will win the clash to you? To me saxon have a load of dub which can ram dance but their set isn't saying nothing to me they can't go play luv injection with the set they have... they'll get park up. Their b line missing and their set just sounds noisy. Went to a dance the other day saxon and shocking studio were playing and saxon didn't sound impressive at all. I think luv injection will give them worries set wise and music wise. What do you all think? ------------- respect |
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Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 22 August 2015 at 12:35pm
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Better to have plenty of music, even if set not all that.. Right phone call to couple of South or West London man, and they could hire heavy & crystal set for the night.. However 'Injection might rail them for that, on the mic.  ------------- Global Depopulation - Alive and Killing. |
Posted By: Gee136
Date Posted: 22 August 2015 at 12:41pm
Two lengendary Machines, unfortunetly for Saxon, Luv Injection has got the far superior machine because Luv Injection has kept up with the audio tech, but both machines has got 30 years of tune & BIG "anthems" to deliver, so anything can happen  The History is too BIG to miss for any sound machine fans.......... Remember 1992 Hansworth Leisure Centre, also Bilston 1994, Wembley 2008 & now Coronet 2015 General salute to both camps ------------- Goverment Sound (weight & treble roots machine) When Goverment ah play, infidels, ginals & masqueraders run away..... |
Posted By: championdrei
Date Posted: 22 August 2015 at 12:43pm
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I hear what you all are saying but from what I hear luv injection have a wicked set and selection so I'm thinking there's gonna be pure worries in that dance Also to me the set comes first before dub you can have nuff special or whatever but if the set don't sound good for the dub to play on then there's no point playing it imagine your playing your dub then the next sound just come in with weight line and ting you can't hear the dub again you get my point? Sound have to lock off they get drown out------------- respect |
Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 22 August 2015 at 12:52pm
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To be honest, yes, Big time sound, should have big tunes, and set to deliver them properly. I'm just saying, is easier to hire tough set for one night, than to own tough set, and lacking tunes. ------------- Global Depopulation - Alive and Killing. |
Posted By: Gee136
Date Posted: 22 August 2015 at 12:55pm
Yes I fully understand what you sayin championdrei, I'm the same the machines must be on point, BUT this session is what they say "Nuh Narmal" the fans of both camps are "DIE HARD" core!!! once a BIG anthem drop, then anything is anything  Respect..........  ------------- Goverment Sound (weight & treble roots machine) When Goverment ah play, infidels, ginals & masqueraders run away..... |
Posted By: championdrei
Date Posted: 22 August 2015 at 12:57pm
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True, I heard saxon play some BIG tune the other day so we'll have to see what happens ------------- respect |
Posted By: Gee136
Date Posted: 22 August 2015 at 12:58pm
True True iyah, but the DIE HARD fans wouldn't have it no other way................  ------------- Goverment Sound (weight & treble roots machine) When Goverment ah play, infidels, ginals & masqueraders run away..... |
levyte357- wrote:Posted By: championdrei
Date Posted: 22 August 2015 at 1:07pm
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The Venue: The Coronet Theater 28 New Kent Road, London, SE1 6TJ, United Kingdom Friday 18th September 10pm-4am Tickets: £20 Found the flyer... ------------- respect |
Posted By: wiz247
Date Posted: 22 August 2015 at 1:07pm
Hey Championdrei, don't go on the 12th or you'll find you'll be the only one in the place waiting for them to turn up inna them truck.... . I can confirm it is on Friday 18th of Sept. Friday driving home, and only by a split chance I saw the poster on a wall in West Norwood, otherwise I was oblivious that this dance was even in the pipeline. When I arrived home, looked it up on the net, and found that it's confirmed and legit and grabbed a ticket. It seems this dance has been long awaiting, two giants ina one arena. I have to agree, Saxon's pretty set let them down, and Brixton dance with King Tubbys can testify that, they were lucky to get it sorted at the last hour and a half or the crowd wouldn't have redeem them because people were getting pissed off! Every time I've heared Luv Injection their set is on point, and Corporal Billy cracks me up alongside Levi(Saxon), & Champion(Jamdown Rockers) these must be the cheekiest muthaf**kers to ever hold a mic. But Allen Brando is a good defender for Saxon and will hold up their corner. Saxon's dub box is very deep with a lot of history, they can kill a sound just with oldies alone, they've got some high calibre sh!t from years, with a few artist that are no longer with us. Luv Injection got some tunes as well, but I personally wouldn't say it's off the same calibre. Until recent, apart from Nottinghill Carnival, Saxon was off the scene for a long time and I think a lot of time passed, and the landscape has changed since they resurfaced in the dancehall arena again. This is where Injection have the heads-up. Although they've been around a long time also, they play in a more contemporary style in comparison and think this what the crowd will warm to more; I won't hedge my bet yet, I believe this could go either way, it won't be a walk in the park for either camp. But for sure this dance will cause some hurt feelings...
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Posted By: championdrei
Date Posted: 22 August 2015 at 1:11pm
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Respect wiz and I agree with what you're saying Hurt feelings indeed ------------- respect |
Posted By: wiz247
Date Posted: 22 August 2015 at 1:19pm
Yep they would, The Corporal don't take back no chat!!...LOL
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Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 23 August 2015 at 10:35am
 ------------- **Heavy Weight-Line** A home without books is like a body with no soul. |
Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 23 August 2015 at 10:40am
------------- **Heavy Weight-Line** A home without books is like a body with no soul. |
Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 23 August 2015 at 11:40am
Tek, you know when it comes to Dub systems, some of us only impressed if round heavy weightline, strong low mids, strong mic, and sizzle chipping., But get the feeling, when it comes to dancehall clash, people place more emphasis on tunes, specials forwards, mic man. ------------- Global Depopulation - Alive and Killing. |
Posted By: mrmck
Date Posted: 13 September 2015 at 9:29am
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Onelove festival audio http://forum.dancehallreggae.com/showthread.php/258624-OneLove-festival-2015-Fatman-vs-Foundation-Sound-vs-King-Tubbys Something to get you in the mood for Friday, link may need fixing, bless |
Posted By: paulus
Date Posted: 13 September 2015 at 10:27am
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Will be interesting for sure , luv injections sound is very nice clean and heavy and correctly processed , Saxons is pretty much thrown together ,with cancelation being the key word, last time they came to brum they get murdered :( but as stated tune wise they are killa ------------- TRENDSETTER SOUND SYSTEM |
Posted By: TRE4U2NV
Date Posted: 13 September 2015 at 4:03pm
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PLEASE REMEMBER NO I.D. NO ENTRY YOUVE BEEN WARNED ------------- IM SO SECRETIVE BUT I CANT TELL YOU WHY |
Posted By: bass*en*mass
Date Posted: 13 September 2015 at 5:30pm
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is that a licensing thing in UK due to violence/crime in venues? (are the i.d.s scanned and saved or just for proof of age) |
Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 13 September 2015 at 8:23pm
+1 ? ------------- Global Depopulation - Alive and Killing. |
Posted By: wiz247
Date Posted: 14 September 2015 at 6:24pm
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It's good that Tre4u2nv mention the ID policy, for when I last went to the venue, I just so happen to have my license in my wallet, to which I don't usually do, so was lucky I didn't get turned away. I recall they putting the id on a machine, so I assume it is scanned.
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Posted By: bass*en*mass
Date Posted: 14 September 2015 at 6:30pm
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digital ID? |
Posted By: fat_brstd
Date Posted: 18 September 2015 at 11:33am
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So tonight is the night, seen nuff hype about this dance from the other side of globe, hope someone will let us know who a get lock off. ------------- Melbournes Rootical Warrior Roots - Dub - Steppers http://www.facebook.com/adrians.wall" rel="nofollow - facebook page |
Posted By: paulus
Date Posted: 18 September 2015 at 11:57am
Lots of hype indeed,would imagine injection will roll up with 24 bins , 4 stacks 6 horn loaded  ------------- TRENDSETTER SOUND SYSTEM |
Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 18 September 2015 at 12:07pm
How many people does venue hold? ------------- Global Depopulation - Alive and Killing. |
Posted By: fat_brstd
Date Posted: 18 September 2015 at 12:18pm
I've heard 2,500 being banded around, not sure if that true though. ------------- Melbournes Rootical Warrior Roots - Dub - Steppers http://www.facebook.com/adrians.wall" rel="nofollow - facebook page |
Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 18 September 2015 at 1:21pm
24x subs to cover 2,500 people... Hmmmm...  ------------- Global Depopulation - Alive and Killing. |
Posted By: fat_brstd
Date Posted: 18 September 2015 at 2:24pm
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Pre dance interview with both Luv Injection & Saxon on BBC 1Xtra - http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p032shls" rel="nofollow - http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p032shls ------------- Melbournes Rootical Warrior Roots - Dub - Steppers http://www.facebook.com/adrians.wall" rel="nofollow - facebook page |
Posted By: Tekasis
Date Posted: 18 September 2015 at 3:55pm
If it sound propa, no problem. Remember say 18 subs were used @ Brixton splash and it sounded wicked. Everyone were, and still talking bout it, so it don't matter. This one ain't no joke dance, so man has to come out wid da full functioning machine.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExTVW2z0fkE" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExTVW2z0fkE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgaEbr6vS5U" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgaEbr6vS5U ------------- **Heavy Weight-Line** A home without books is like a body with no soul. |
Posted By: paulus
Date Posted: 18 September 2015 at 4:08pm
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Injection always do stack 6 scoop horn loaded, 2 double15 reflex and mid highs, just a question of how many stack they bring This one Saxon stack , unsure how many will bring http://postimg.org/image/oj6lqgpln/" rel="nofollow">  ------------- TRENDSETTER SOUND SYSTEM |
Posted By: championdrei
Date Posted: 18 September 2015 at 4:53pm
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If they come with that stack then they're going to get kill with quality heard the stack last month 4 scoop didn't sound good at all ------------- respect |
Posted By: wiz247
Date Posted: 18 September 2015 at 8:42pm
Excellent interview. Looking forward to the dance tonight!! Boom shaka lacka!!
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Posted By: Sheggy
Date Posted: 18 September 2015 at 9:22pm
Mr Tek a tell U so, full report please. |
Posted By: bee
Date Posted: 18 September 2015 at 11:10pm
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rumour is tippa audio supplying extra boxes to one of the sounds.... Unconfirmed.... ------------- https://www.elements-audio.com |
Posted By: kr1sounds
Date Posted: 19 September 2015 at 1:39am
facebook saying it's confirmed..... ------------- I MAN SERVE SELASSIE CONTINUALLY... NO MATTER WHAT THE WEAK HEART SAY fostonshfs.webs.com |
Posted By: kr1sounds
Date Posted: 19 September 2015 at 1:40am
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i hear/see saxon lock off 'their sound'...... ------------- I MAN SERVE SELASSIE CONTINUALLY... NO MATTER WHAT THE WEAK HEART SAY fostonshfs.webs.com |
Posted By: paulus
Date Posted: 19 September 2015 at 8:42am
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Lots of people saying Saxon borrow heap of powersoft,but injection still mash them up,can any one confirm how many stacks etc each sound have ------------- TRENDSETTER SOUND SYSTEM |
Posted By: fat_brstd
Date Posted: 19 September 2015 at 11:29am
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I heard Saxon get lock off, need some info on the result, surely someone reached the session ------------- Melbournes Rootical Warrior Roots - Dub - Steppers http://www.facebook.com/adrians.wall" rel="nofollow - facebook page |
Posted By: bee
Date Posted: 19 September 2015 at 11:38am
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no one got locked off, phoned a friend who was there, he left 15 mins from end.... a lot of people left early, as it was very disappointing, (so im told).... ------------- https://www.elements-audio.com |
Posted By: WORD
Date Posted: 19 September 2015 at 2:24pm
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Just my opinion. I started to write some info on the dance then thought sod this, all i will say is Luv Injection played a custom special saying Saxon should bring back Trevor Sax as Alan Brando was not up to the job and i must say that dub was correct. Saxon must have a bag of dubs with Trevor Sax's name that they wont or cant play. Alan Brando's style of juggling brings me back to to the dark days of sound system clash's in the mid to late 80's when mc's would bring out the worst in each other, yes a clash is a clash however no order was set and all i could see is Brando trying to draw out Billy in an all out slanging match.  I wanted to hear tune fe tune, one fe one, dub fe dub. If some fool decides to put on a pt2 in Birmingham i will be the first to say i am not interested.  Big up Luv Injection nice sound check when you dropped Prophecy i think Jah Tubby's and King Earthquake would have been impressed, you came into Saxon back yard and held your own and i was not surprised by the amount of boo's Saxon got near the end of the dance. Got a call from a friend who said he was reading some chat on the internet with nuff people saying Saxon won........................------------- Entertainment should be a form of Enjoyment |
Posted By: chamron
Date Posted: 19 September 2015 at 3:45pm
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First of all I would like to big up Mathew from Saxon sound
for making the machine sound the best I have heard it in years. (Who ever boxes
you used must have been impressed as I have seen that sound out before and
never heard them that heavy)
The dance to me was wicked now that I have had a sleep and time to reflect a bit slow at some points but luv injection has now got to be crowned UK number 1. Big up family, they total teach and beat Saxon Luv injection light the fire in the early round when Zookie said that Luv injection was all there’s. Then Saxon and Alan Brando (Skip) play there anthems got a few forwards but after that it was all luv injection. Mini muscle or Mickey bops seems to have learned nothing from Trevor Sax and should stick to playing local sounds for now. The place was packed full and both sets cover it well but sorry luv injection took that one as well. ------------- Sound System for Life... |
Posted By: wiz247
Date Posted: 19 September 2015 at 5:55pm
This is the f**king truth!!
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Posted By: RiddimKid
Date Posted: 19 September 2015 at 6:32pm
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Saxon got beat up in everyway!!! From they borrow a next man sound system they lose! They try put their old crusty set at the back to try style it out lol Luv Injection's sound is ridculous. 24 scoops tore down that venue wid ease even when half the sound bruck down after the power cut That prophecy bassline is still haunting me now lol
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Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 19 September 2015 at 8:36pm
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJowsBFu1g0" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJowsBFu1g0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EiTsuTrW2I" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EiTsuTrW2I ------------- When you gonna send me some $$ mate ? |
Posted By: dashaudio
Date Posted: 19 September 2015 at 10:23pm
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Those were brendans boxes that saxon used mikies wattco scoops and powersofts. Luv injectons set was a madness I was outside when I heard prohicy I ran in to catch that tune bass was crazy |
Posted By: wiz247
Date Posted: 20 September 2015 at 7:53pm
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When I arrived there just after 10:00 I couldn’t believe the
queue outside the venue, it’s the longest I’ve ever seen for that place, so
already dance cork before door open. The wait to get in was over an hour,
however people seem to be in good spirits and kept good order. As time went
past the hour, some people were huffing, puffing and blowing and was beginning
to think somebody might just snap and rush the joint and then all hell will
break loose, but it was all good and security done a good job maintaining the
line. Once inside the first thing I did was a slick move and get to
the front of the bar for a juice, because I can see a long wait ahead to get
served later, so get it out the way so I can hold a space beside one speaker
box and see how this event will unfold. *sigh* On listening, Saxon’s set sounded at its best since a long
time, ok they hired or like in “who wants to be a millionaire” phoned a friend
for some additional equipment, and got railed for it. Big deal, that’s what your
brethren are for…lol!! It was still fundamentally Saxon Sound with them ugly
metal trimmed boxes and the amp case flashing like a minicab office sign. I was
just happy they had adequate power for that huge place. Luv Injection, I didn’t expect anything less,
their set sounded tight as usual, no stress!! My 2 cents! However! As far as I’m concerned, and my opinion only, there
were no winners! This dance became a shambolic mess, a missed opportunity to be
the dance of the year. It was bought into disrepute by (kid) Brando and a few
juveniles in the peanut gallery crying out for war! war! war! GTFOHWTBS!! If man dem want war, go pick up a
f**king gun and go help the people inna Syria eeeediot!! It became one big sausage fest with man with
dem two hand inna them pocket a watch two microphone fiend hollering and cussing
down each other, like they running a likkle sound, pure negativity and bad vibe!! I expect
this sh!te from your Mattehorn, Mighty Crown, Fire Links and all that bashment sheggery! I see Saxon and Luv Injection as big man sound, what go on
Friday, needn’t go there. They’ve both been there, done that, wore the T-Shirt,
have the cups, trophies, medals, stripes and accolades from the people far and
wide over years, it is set in sound-system history hands down! It’s inevitable these first division sounds will clash, they’re
maintaining their reputations, but they are at a stage where they can do it on
a better level. Both have music like rain, both have charismatic man in them
crew to hold down microphone. Tune fi tune, jokes and banter is the only
entertainment that is needed. Every crew has a right to defend their sound musically,
verbally, sonically, but this sole soundbwoy killa mentality is tiresome,
killing the dances and keeping the balance of grown women away. Personally I wouldn’t even entertain a second round, rematch
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Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 21 September 2015 at 12:45am
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"Somebody in here has hired boxes" ------------- Global Depopulation - Alive and Killing. |
Posted By: championdrei
Date Posted: 21 September 2015 at 7:48am
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What would of made the dance better is if sounds were still doing the mc thing. When tune play, version after. VIBES!. that's what's missing in sound business nowadays that back in the days had. Sound mam on the mic chatting his lyric cussing off the next sound or telling a story. That's what made dances more interesting. Not just man on the mic talking this and that if you understand what I mean. ------------- respect |
Posted By: championdrei
Date Posted: 21 September 2015 at 7:51am
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Wanna hear some Mic Man... papa levi, sandman can't remember if he's saxon but you get my point. ------------- respect |
Posted By: wiz247
Date Posted: 21 September 2015 at 8:16am
Bingo Champiodrei! If an MC dare pic up the microphone he/she best had their A-game lyrically, have character, wit, charm and intelligence, to win over the crowd or if they went toe to toe to bury an opposing MC. The big sound them need to open the mic, for up and coming artists to showcase their talent again. Nuff singers and MC hone their skills in the dancehall before putting material on street. Over the last few years you got these Tarzans hogging the mic beating their gums, chest and pacing up and down stage yapping sh!t like dem a the don dadda taking this sound ting to the pits!
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Posted By: Gee136
Date Posted: 01 October 2015 at 6:56pm
Real MACHINE @ work not no party "ting" Blessed ------------- Goverment Sound (weight & treble roots machine) When Goverment ah play, infidels, ginals & masqueraders run away..... |