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Topic: FREE formula for my speaker paint
Posted By: KidCreole
Subject: FREE formula for my speaker paint
Date Posted: 31 August 2015 at 10:15am
Hi Guys!

Seeing as I was getting inquiries from abroad and hardly any here. I thought I might as well share the formula that you can all mix, and use supplies from local resin stockists.

Items needed are...

1. Resin - catalyst
2. Chopped strand
3. Talc
4. Pigment
5. Textured roller
 

Resin you can even buy from builders merchants now, as it's being used on flat roofs etc

Talc you can buy in 25kg bags or just go and buy the body talc. I have used recently the talc from poundland 'imperial leather'

Chopped strand you can order from ebay. 3mm is good.

Pigment. I have used a number of pigments, but you can also buy this from ebay, as well as all the other ingredients

Roller is a throw away. If you try and clean it with acetone, the roller just expands

You don't have to use chopped strand, but I would recommend it 

Pigment is mixed with the resin first, then the talc. Talc and resin mix is up to you. You want to get a consistency like custard. Not too runny. Then add the chopped strand. Mix well, with a paddle on a drill if you can. Use up a litre at a time and keep the rest on the shelf until you need it another time.

This paint is bullet proof and waterproof

Enjoy

PS: use in a ventilated area. If winter painting with no heating, then use winter resin 


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Posted By: KidCreole
Date Posted: 31 August 2015 at 10:34am
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Chopped-Strands-Fibreglass-Strands-3mm-2kg-/221350484273?hash=item3389845931" rel="nofollow - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Chopped-Strands-Fibreglass-Strands-3mm-2kg-/221350484273?hash=item3389845931

Cheaper if you buy from Selco
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/25kg-Polyester-Resin-Catalyst-MEKP-FibreGlass-CHEAP-/221855342672?hash=item33a79be050" rel="nofollow - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/25kg-Polyester-Resin-Catalyst-MEKP-FibreGlass-CHEAP-/221855342672?hash=item33a79be050

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fordacal-Talc-Filler-Ideal-Resin-Casting-Filler-25Kg-/320596236047?hash=item4aa506570f" rel="nofollow - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fordacal-Talc-Filler-Ideal-Resin-Casting-Filler-25Kg-/320596236047?hash=item4aa506570f

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/100-g-Pure-Black-pigment-for-Epoxy-Resin-/371294882066?hash=item5672e64912" rel="nofollow - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/100-g-Pure-Black-pigment-for-Epoxy-Resin-/371294882066?hash=item5672e64912

http://www.trade1st.co.uk/texture-stipple-mini-paint-roller-4-inch" rel="nofollow - http://www.trade1st.co.uk/texture-stipple-mini-paint-roller-4-inch

Shop around. I'm sure you will find cheaper
a far better pigment, and cheaper
http://m.ebay.com/itm/Mixol-Universal-Tints-Black-1-200ml-500ml-/271394668742?nav=SEARCH&rmvSB=true&ul_ref=http%253A%252F%252Frover.ebay.com%252Frover%252F1%252F711-53200-19255-0%252F1%253Ftype%253D3%2526campId%253D5337014567%2526toolId%253D10001%2526customId%253Die37uxjds9002gs400axe%2526mpre%253Dhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fm.ebay.com%25252Fitm%25252FMixol-Universal-Tints-Black-1-200ml-500ml-%25252F271394668742%25253Fnav%25253DSEARCH%2526srcrot%253D711-53200-19255-0%2526rvr_id%253D892983060277" rel="nofollow - http://ebay.com%25252Fitm%25252FMixol-Universal-Tints-Black-1-200ml-500ml-%25252F271394668742%25253Fnav%25253DSEARCH%2526srcrot%253D711-53200-19255-0%2526rvr_id%253D892983060277



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Posted By: DanielIt
Date Posted: 31 August 2015 at 10:47am
Very kind of you to share such a good info.Thank you very much...will let you know how it goes.


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Posted By: Meat
Date Posted: 31 August 2015 at 10:54am
Male model, speaker designer, formulation chemist.... ...does Mykey have any limits?


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Posted By: jbl_man
Date Posted: 31 August 2015 at 11:44am
^ LOL

Glad it's waterproof,you will need it on a day like this.


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Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 31 August 2015 at 11:47am
Early present, from Santa Mykey.. LOL




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Posted By: soundforyou
Date Posted: 31 August 2015 at 5:50pm
Excellent, Cant wait to try it, sick of painting cabinets every time they come back!!

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Posted By: King George
Date Posted: 31 August 2015 at 6:02pm
So roughly how long do you get before the paint sets? In my mind I have the kind of resin you use for GRP that suddenly goes runny to rock hard!


Posted By: kevin tyler
Date Posted: 31 August 2015 at 6:28pm
I am not one to moan,

But could you do a video please?

Ta


Posted By: Majestic
Date Posted: 31 August 2015 at 7:28pm
nice one Mykey. Jbl use a similar mix, i had some 30 yr old cabs in great original condition


Posted By: njw
Date Posted: 31 August 2015 at 8:28pm
  Cheers Mykey, jblman could you make this a sticky please? (see what I did there!)


Posted By: shaun1264
Date Posted: 31 August 2015 at 8:35pm
I have a pair of the old JBL 4850 concert series that are coated with a fibreglass shell. Still like new. Hardly any marks.


Posted By: Majestic
Date Posted: 31 August 2015 at 9:27pm
Originally posted by shaun1264 shaun1264 wrote:

I have a pair of the old JBL 4850 concert series that are coated with a fibreglass shell. Still like new. Hardly any marks.


those were the same ones i had, sold them last year. i was wondering how they made the coating and thanks to mykey we have the answer. much appreciated!


Posted By: KidCreole
Date Posted: 31 August 2015 at 10:01pm
Originally posted by King George King George wrote:

So roughly how long do you get before the paint sets? In my mind I have the kind of resin you use for GRP that suddenly goes runny to rock hard!
30 mins

best thing about it getting tacky and going off, gives you a better lift on the texture

You can mix the chopped strand in with the resin first, and talc after. What ever tickles ya fancy


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Posted By: KidCreole
Date Posted: 31 August 2015 at 10:04pm
Originally posted by Majestic Majestic wrote:

Originally posted by shaun1264 shaun1264 wrote:

I have a pair of the old JBL 4850 concert series that are coated with a fibreglass shell. Still like new. Hardly any marks.


those were the same ones i had, sold them last year. i was wondering how they made the coating and thanks to mykey we have the answer. much appreciated!
Not saying it's the same. I didn't know of theirs. I kept making up my own filler (car body panel filler) and you have to do it in stages, by adding talc slowly. While it was runny I thought Ermm would make good paint. The chopped strand is a bonus


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Posted By: KidCreole
Date Posted: 31 August 2015 at 10:56pm
I think that what you had there was chopped strand matt with resin. Quite a lot of work involved in that process.

If you are going to use the chopped strand fibres, when the paint has cured, make sure there aren't any small spikes standing up from the 3mm fibres. If there are then just quickly go over the surface lightly with sandpaper  


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Speakers don't pay bills


Posted By: kevin tyler
Date Posted: 01 September 2015 at 10:31am
Is the ratio of resin to catalyst critical?

I tried doing small batches of 2 pack poly floor paint and often found I ended up with empty tins of hardner and loads of half full paint tins.

When you say chopped strand, are you saying these are short prices of what a David's isopn type matt would contain?

Cheers


Posted By: KidCreole
Date Posted: 01 September 2015 at 3:02pm
There is a link there for the chopped strand, in the second post

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Posted By: supremesoundz
Date Posted: 01 September 2015 at 3:29pm
we definitely need a video of this..
 
Go on Mykey, could be the start of your acting career.. Make sure you have a glamourous assistant! someone like that bird in countdownThumbs Up


Posted By: mini-mad
Date Posted: 01 September 2015 at 3:39pm
Originally posted by supremesoundz supremesoundz wrote:


we definitely need a video of this..
 
Go on Mykey, could be the start of your acting career.. Make sure you have a glamourous assistant! someone like that bird in countdownThumbs Up

he means carol not the young tart....



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Posted By: dylan-penguinmedia
Date Posted: 01 September 2015 at 4:26pm
Originally posted by mini-mad mini-mad wrote:

Originally posted by supremesoundz supremesoundz wrote:


we definitely need a video of this..
 
Go on Mykey, could be the start of your acting career.. Make sure you have a glamourous assistant! someone like that bird in countdownThumbs Up

he means carol not the young tart....


Thou shalt not take the name of Rachel Riley in vein!


Posted By: mini-mad
Date Posted: 01 September 2015 at 4:40pm
Originally posted by dylan-penguinmedia dylan-penguinmedia wrote:

Originally posted by mini-mad mini-mad wrote:

Originally posted by supremesoundz supremesoundz wrote:


we definitely need a video of this..
 
Go on Mykey, could be the start of your acting career.. Make sure you have a glamourous assistant! someone like that bird in countdownThumbs Up

he means carol not the young tart....



Thou shalt not take the name of Rachel Riley in vein!
....ha!! Now any recomendation u make is automaticaly invalid as your choise in women sux!!! Lol coral is soooooooo much hotter!!


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If it sounds like a gorilla is trying to escape, turn it down.


Posted By: colboy
Date Posted: 01 September 2015 at 5:08pm
Originally posted by mini-mad mini-mad wrote:

Originally posted by dylan-penguinmedia dylan-penguinmedia wrote:

Originally posted by mini-mad mini-mad wrote:

Originally posted by supremesoundz supremesoundz wrote:


we definitely need a video of this..
 
Go on Mykey, could be the start of your acting career.. Make sure you have a glamourous assistant! someone like that bird in countdownThumbs Up

he means carol not the young tart....



Thou shalt not take the name of Rachel Riley in vein!
....ha!! Now any recomendation u make is automaticaly invalid as your choise in women sux!!! Lol coral is soooooooo much hotter!!

ohh yes, Carol is the top of the list.


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Posted By: KidCreole
Date Posted: 01 September 2015 at 6:47pm
Carol is super horny


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Posted By: KidCreole
Date Posted: 01 September 2015 at 6:49pm
Originally posted by supremesoundz supremesoundz wrote:

we definitely need a video of this..
 
Go on Mykey, could be the start of your acting career.. Make sure you have a glamourous assistant! someone like that bird in countdownThumbs Up
Yeah will do. I'll makeit like a ''HOW'' video. Only for the older UK members that oneWink


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Posted By: MattStolton
Date Posted: 01 September 2015 at 7:21pm
Originally posted by KidCreole KidCreole wrote:

Originally posted by supremesoundz supremesoundz wrote:

we definitely need a video of this..
Yeah will do. I'll makeit like a ''HOW'' video. Only for the older UK members that oneWink
Cheers, I feel very old now. Ahhh sh*t. I am really old now.


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"Sparkius metiretur vestra" - "Meter Your Mains"


Posted By: Joe Grime
Date Posted: 01 September 2015 at 7:37pm
With Bunty James as the glamorous assistant.


Posted By: TMH Music
Date Posted: 01 September 2015 at 8:04pm
MyKey, Matt, Joe, if you remember "HOW", then I take my hat off to each of you, for being such rare individuals!, I.e Still able to rock it with sound systems and freedom pass holders at the same time!!! And there was me thinking I was over the hill at 42!!!
Back on topic now!!! Thanks for sharing this MyKey.

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Posted By: mini-mad
Date Posted: 01 September 2015 at 11:21pm
You could go crazy and make an "instrucrables"!!




...if you could get Carol wearing glasses too, glasses are so sexy!!



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If it sounds like a gorilla is trying to escape, turn it down.


Posted By: kevin tyler
Date Posted: 02 September 2015 at 10:05am
Sorry

Yes when in doubt click the link,



Posted By: KidCreole
Date Posted: 02 September 2015 at 9:05pm
Found a far better and cheaper pigment. You use much less to acquire a blacker black. And the added bonus, you don't need to stain the ply or mdf black first. This goes straight on to ply jet black.
 
http://m.ebay.com/itm/Mixol-Universal-Tints-Black-1-200ml-500ml-/271394668742?nav=SEARCH" rel="nofollow - http://m.ebay.com/itm/Mixol-Universal-Tints-Black-1-200ml-500ml-/271394668742?nav=SEARCH
 
you can buy this product in hackney, east London.
 
I forgot to add, you don't have to sand the cabs, just straight over the top.


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Posted By: KidCreole
Date Posted: 02 September 2015 at 9:08pm
Also, remember that 5 litres becomes 10 litres when you add the talc. Goes along way.
 
No primer. No sanding.


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Posted By: SamV
Date Posted: 03 September 2015 at 6:08pm
I'm sure I could sort out a camera for this. Need specialist breathing aparatus? 

My wee little 12" subs need a coat of paint.

Where's the place in Hackney that does the pigment?


Posted By: tv00
Date Posted: 07 September 2015 at 8:27am
Yes breathing apparatus would probably be recommended.

So you use polyester / epoxy resin?
I had a look at polyurethane paints , some come cheap too...

By the way I have tonnes of very expensive pigments for paints, these are in 1 l. bottles, so don't know if they dissolve in epoxy / polyester.

I'll go have a look, I have an entire shopping cart full of pigments.
I bought 2 pallets of paint from a guy closing his storage...



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Posted By: Battered
Date Posted: 12 September 2015 at 9:29pm
Originally posted by Meat Meat wrote:

Male model, speaker designer, formulation chemist.... ...does Mykey have any limits?



Yes. He doesn't donkey punch on the first date.................


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Posted By: Battered
Date Posted: 12 September 2015 at 9:32pm
Originally posted by mini-mad mini-mad wrote:

Originally posted by supremesoundz supremesoundz wrote:


we definitely need a video of this..
 
Go on Mykey, could be the start of your acting career.. Make sure you have a glamourous assistant! someone like that bird in countdownThumbs Up

he means carol not the young tart....




Why would you want Carol?

I'd rather have the young tart with the big tits, than the old bag with the big brain!!


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Posted By: mini-mad
Date Posted: 12 September 2015 at 10:38pm
Originally posted by Battered Battered wrote:

Originally posted by mini-mad mini-mad wrote:

Originally posted by supremesoundz supremesoundz wrote:


we definitely need a video of this..
Go on Mykey, could be the start of your acting career.. Make sure you have a glamourous assistant! someone like that bird in countdownThumbs Up

he means carol not the young tart....

Why would you want Carol?
I'd rather have the young tart with the big tits, than the old bag with the big brain!!

...another one to add to the list of opinions who no longer count as they have bad taste in women!

bigger boobs?.... are you watching the rite programme?


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If it sounds like a gorilla is trying to escape, turn it down.


Posted By: MattStolton
Date Posted: 12 September 2015 at 10:48pm
Originally posted by Battered Battered wrote:

Originally posted by mini-mad mini-mad wrote:

Originally posted by supremesoundz supremesoundz wrote:


we definitely need a video of this..
 
Go on Mykey, could be the start of your acting career.. Make sure you have a glamourous assistant! someone like that bird in countdownThumbs Up

he means carol not the young tart....




Why would you want Carol?

I'd rather have the young tart with the big tits, than the old bag with the big brain!!
Gentlemen, you are compromising, and not thinking grand enough.

THREESOME!


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"Sparkius metiretur vestra" - "Meter Your Mains"


Posted By: mini-mad
Date Posted: 12 September 2015 at 11:05pm
..are you suggesting one irons my shirt while the other one makes me a sandwich???


...i like your thinking!




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If it sounds like a gorilla is trying to escape, turn it down.


Posted By: Battered
Date Posted: 13 September 2015 at 12:13am
Originally posted by MattStolton MattStolton wrote:

Originally posted by Battered Battered wrote:

Originally posted by mini-mad mini-mad wrote:

Originally posted by supremesoundz supremesoundz wrote:


we definitely need a video of this..
 
Go on Mykey, could be the start of your acting career.. Make sure you have a glamourous assistant! someone like that bird in countdownThumbs Up

he means carol not the young tart....




Why would you want Carol?

I'd rather have the young tart with the big tits, than the old bag with the big brain!!
Gentlemen, you are compromising, and not thinking grand enough.

THREESOME!



Matt Stolton has just won the internet!!



Damn. Why didn't I think of that...........LOL


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Touching cloth at 200 mph


Posted By: Battered
Date Posted: 13 September 2015 at 12:19am
Originally posted by mini-mad mini-mad wrote:

Originally posted by Battered Battered wrote:

Originally posted by mini-mad mini-mad wrote:

Originally posted by supremesoundz supremesoundz wrote:


we definitely need a video of this..
Go on Mykey, could be the start of your acting career.. Make sure you have a glamourous assistant! someone like that bird in countdownThumbs Up

he means carol not the young tart....

Why would you want Carol?
I'd rather have the young tart with the big tits, than the old bag with the big brain!!

...another one to add to the list of opinions who no longer count as they have bad taste in women!

bigger boobs?.... are you watching the rite programme?



Dunno, I don't watch Countdown. But when that young bird from Countdown was on Top Gear(the tv show, not a drug dealer's), she had a really tight top on that showed off her ample bosom. Carol can not compete with her on that level. The bit where she's stood next to the leader board bending over will show you exactly what I mean. If you can find the Top Gear episode with her in it, she's in that one Wink


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Posted By: Gonzo-4-bidden
Date Posted: 24 September 2015 at 9:59pm
Definitely gonna give this a go, does resin go out of date? Got two cans in the garage to practice with

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Posted By: Badger74
Date Posted: 06 November 2015 at 10:55am
We are using a dark grey GRP resin for roofing atm and have painted 2 cabs.

 It's easily available from roofing/builders yards, online etc, combined with 450g matting it makes a bomb proof speaker coating.  Cost is cheaper the more you buy ofc, as for actual cost i have no idea really as this was a left over from a job.

Other colours are available including black.

 Tuffstuff on ebay sell tins of 5litre for about £42 which will do about 4 18" single bass cabs with 2 coats
however i've never used their stuff.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GRP-Fibreglass-Roofing-Top-Coat-Dark-Grey-5Kg-Drum-/171076321425?hash=item27d4f18091:g:40oAAOxy~TdR5TY0

Cheers



Posted By: MarjanM
Date Posted: 06 November 2015 at 3:24pm
if only is not that smelly

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Posted By: supremesoundz
Date Posted: 06 November 2015 at 6:57pm
Originally posted by Badger74 Badger74 wrote:

We are using a dark grey GRP resin for roofing atm and have painted 2 cabs.

 It's easily available from roofing/builders yards, online etc, combined with 450g matting it makes a bomb proof speaker coating.  Cost is cheaper the more you buy ofc, as for actual cost i have no idea really as this was a left over from a job.

Other colours are available including black.

 Tuffstuff on ebay sell tins of 5litre for about £42 which will do about 4 18" single bass cabs with 2 coats

however i've never used their stuff.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GRP-Fibreglass-Roofing-Top-Coat-Dark-Grey-5Kg-Drum-/171076321425?hash=item27d4f18091:g:40oAAOxy~TdR5TY0

Cheers



Any pictures mate?


Posted By: Centauri
Date Posted: 30 May 2016 at 1:12pm
To resurrect this thread, has anyone here used this formula yet?  I have done a few boxes so far, and while the hardness & texture are good, I find it scuffs very easily.  After one outing the boxes look very second hand .. :(
Comment Mykey ?


Posted By: smoore
Date Posted: 30 May 2016 at 9:28pm
I've done the same and found exactly the same! (I did the paint on someone elses cabinets for them after they asked to try it) It's rock hard and only needed one thin coat then another thick one to leave a really good finish. However it scuffs grey very quickly! 


Posted By: tv00
Date Posted: 12 May 2017 at 10:51am
What's that Matting used for the GRP?
I'm considering doing some test soon with this cheap solutin, perhaps the homemade & this:
http://www.protectakote.co.uk/protectakote-wb.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.protectakote.co.uk/protectakote-wb.html
Which seems nice as it is Water Based (they also have the chemical stuff:-)


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Posted By: Popspet
Date Posted: 10 February 2019 at 7:15am
Please when you say matting, do you mean any Matt paint? Are there alternatives to all these chemical solutions? I tried I few saw dust from my cutting, mixing with a Matt paint, came with a good texture but not so rock hard. Would a bit of epoxy and Matt paint do a great job


Posted By: concept-10
Date Posted: 10 February 2019 at 8:52am
No, he means fiberglass matting not mat Paint, it's all in the thread if you read it from the beguining.



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