Is a crossover enough?
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Topic: Is a crossover enough?
Posted By: tekcsedi
Subject: Is a crossover enough?
Date Posted: 25 November 2015 at 6:02pm
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I'm in the process of getting some HD15's and loading them with Fane Sovereign 15-400 LF, as the specs mostly match what should go into one of these boxes. Now for my question.A reputable person told me that I will most likely damage/destroy my drivers by only using a crossover,and not a DSP. Bare with me,he told me that I should high pass my HD's to 50hz.I'm still sort of new,only operated smaller systems before,and never used an x-over.Is it not in the capabilities of a crossover to high pass my bins?The person also mentioned something about the HD's needing EQ correction points.I'm sorry if I'm not making this clear,translating technical terms is a total bitch. If I do, indeed need a DSP, is there a workaround?Like getting maybe an equalizer and crossover? Sorry if this seems a tad bit incoherent, not being able to understand is extremely frustrating. |
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Posted By: mini-mad
Date Posted: 25 November 2015 at 6:18pm
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By cross over you mean active not passive rite?... if so a crossover will be "ok" but you really want something you can set delays with to get a better result. You wont destroy them but you also wont get the best sound you can out of them. A crossover is a good start and a cheapy like the berry 3400 has a delay function so you will get a better result then mst crossovers. If you mean passive crossover... then dont both building HD at all. Lol ------------- If it sounds like a gorilla is trying to escape, turn it down. |
Posted By: tekcsedi
Date Posted: 25 November 2015 at 6:23pm
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So,I should pick up and active cross over first.As I understand it, this will enable me to set the frequencies to where they need to be. Aside from an active crossover what should my next purchase be? Thanks |
Posted By: tekcsedi
Date Posted: 25 November 2015 at 6:31pm
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But,wait,why would I need delays?I'm going to be stacking 4 HD's,eventually 6 with a pair of good tops.From what I can gather you would use a delay in case of different types of subs. |
Posted By: cravings
Date Posted: 25 November 2015 at 7:02pm
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what kind of crossover have you got, or are you planning on? the delay is for.. http://www.speakerplans.com/index.php?id=faq2" rel="nofollow - this reason |
Posted By: tekcsedi
Date Posted: 25 November 2015 at 7:21pm
Finally something that makes sense in the last 48h. Don't have one.I'm open to suggestions.Guess I'm getting one with delay. Anything else I would need for the system to sound proper? |
cravings wrote:Posted By: Mircea Bartic
Date Posted: 25 November 2015 at 7:27pm
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you can't set any decent highpass on a simple active crossover. All of them have no highpass or a25 Hz highpass. It's stupid to use something like that on a horn. You'll blow the speakers on your first event. ------------- general manager & head designer at nexus-acoustics research http://www.facebook.com/nexus.acoustics.research" rel="nofollow - http://www.facebook.com/nexus.acoustics.research Ex Nexus_3 |
Posted By: tekcsedi
Date Posted: 25 November 2015 at 7:47pm
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And a DSP can do that safely,I presume? Also,when you said EQ correction points,did you mean the delays? To recap, I would need to do the following things to get the sound right and not destroy my drivers: -Delay -50hz Highpass -Coupling the horn mouths properly Did I miss anything? |
Posted By: Andy Kos
Date Posted: 25 November 2015 at 11:32pm
....and then phone the person you bought them from and try to get them replaced under warranty claiming you only ever used them at half power at a christening. (I'm not joking either.... this has happened) ------------- just a guy with a warehouse and a few speakers... www.bluearan.co.uk |
Posted By: AlmostSalty
Date Posted: 26 November 2015 at 10:58am
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+1 on the dsp, you'll get much more out of your speakers, you'll have your delay, your x-over and eq all in one. What will you be using your system for? |
Posted By: tekcsedi
Date Posted: 26 November 2015 at 11:03am
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I'll be getting a DSP for sure,eventually. Mostly outdoor parties,planning to follow the caravan in the summer. |
Posted By: all bass
Date Posted: 26 November 2015 at 12:22pm
Don't get it eventally, get it now! No proper lms with highpass is a recepy for tears and a lot of shredded drivers. Borrow one for the time being, don't waste your money on an active crossover! ------------- https://www.instagram.com/my_modular_journey/ |
Posted By: tekcsedi
Date Posted: 26 November 2015 at 12:30pm
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I'm not going to get an active crossover,I'm going to get a DSP only. They're just expensive as hell and it's gonna take a while to save up for it,that's why I said eventually. Any inexpensive DSP recomandations? |
Posted By: all bass
Date Posted: 26 November 2015 at 12:35pm
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Behringer DCX, buy used if on a budget. ------------- https://www.instagram.com/my_modular_journey/ |
Posted By: tekcsedi
Date Posted: 26 November 2015 at 12:38pm
| Not even that expensive new.Thanks :) |
Posted By: tekcsedi
Date Posted: 26 November 2015 at 5:43pm
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Is the high-pass filter any good on the Phonic XP3000? Would that be fine to use along an active crossover with delay? |