FACT!!! 

i only speak to st8 talk simple from mi heart , cant hang a man for telling the truth!!

peeps who kno...kno

He own my money since 6 months , now , and still no news !!!!

He owe 6 OR 7 K20 to BBJ

he owe a full 4 scoops stack (scoops kick & mid top)

he owe me 4 full size scoops

 

Please don't send him money HE'S A THIEF MAN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

JUDGEMENT WILL COME PON HIS FACE

Stravens has a good name, dont make sense he's turned into some thief...

http://www.datalog.co.uk/browse/detail.php/CompanyNumber/09200442/CompanyName/STRAVENS+AUDIO+LIMITED

As he is a limited company, this makes it very easy to get your money back... Do you have proof of payment.

If so get legal advise.

If its a limited company, the liability of the owner is limited to the share capital, which typically has a minimum of £1

If the business goes under, and the company has no tangible assets, the owner is liable only for that £1, unless you can prove there has been some kind of fraud.

Reality is, it's very hard to recoup money from fraudsters.

Its very easy to hide behind a limited company and then put it into liquidation when the shit hits the fan.

Problem is if you know where they live, and they know where you live... it comes down to  who you know... and who has the biggest friends

what a shame, good luck stef

http://www.real-audio.uk/

The first bit gives it away.......Hardly a proper industrial unit, is it?

Whilst I agree about the "Bat" sentiment, fecking disgusting behaviour, that is the danger of giving money to a Ltd company. At most, they are only worth whatever the called up share capital is, typically £100.

If it goes belly up, unless you start the winding up order, or are a known creditor to the administrator appointed to effect the wind up, post day in court, you are not entitled to a penny. If they have no assets to "fire sale" to cover creditors (first paid is Administrator, then HMRC, then whoever else is on the list), then there is no money.

The reason he is listed twice as "Director" is one will be for him as Director, and the other for him as Company Secretary.

The only long term route, would be potentially expensive civil litigation to have him struck off from companies house, get him banned as a director. Then he would be only able to operate as a self employed entity, and if he then goes owing people money, you can civil prosecute against his personal assets, house, car, cash etc.

Limited company status offers a company a hell of a lot of protection from going bust, and having claims against that company's director's personal assets going forward.

Without doing a Winding Up Order (c. £1880 to form petition to high court) or instigating a CCJ (c. £60) whilst the Ltd Co. is trading, you have no chance.

https://www.gov.uk/wind-up-a-company-that-owes-you-money" rel="nofollow - https://www.gov.uk/wind-up-a-company-that-owes-you-money

Sorry. 

https://www.gov.uk/complain-about-a-limited-company" rel="nofollow - https://www.gov.uk/complain-about-a-limited-company

Could get him struck off from being allowed to be a Co. Director, thus leaving him as a sole trader/self employed, and then any personal assets would then be up for grabs if he does his tricks again.

so gangsters do make the world go around, this is just WRONG man,

good honest ppls just get shit on, no protection F@@@king JOKE tbh

were criminals seem to do what the f@@ing like and get away with it

sorry just fumming....

man needs to be hurt tbh....

All of this is in the civil courts, which is expensive, and very open to the whim of the court. If you could get the Police interested enough to investigate whether he was doing it with intent, i.e. a fraud has occured, then you may be able to get a criminal case, which the CPS would fund.

However, UK Police are not overly fond of looking at what appears to be a civil case, as it buggers the crime statistics, and they have only a low chance of actually getting a conviction.

Good luck.

bcus the system will protect us, no protection for hard working honest pplls WFT

friggin stinks if you as me...

good luck man.....

^ This!

About the only way to hope of getting anything, making such a (legal) nuisance of yourself, that he pays up for a quiet life.

We have only had one knock in the last 10 years, which is pretty damn lucky, and we got 75% up front anyway. Basically they wound up, due to owing a plant hire co £10K plus. Plant hire co did winding up petition on day I raised my CCJ...

Long storey short, trawling through Companies House, yielded some old addresses, one of which was his Mum (or Wife or Sister).

Knowing he had vacated Business address, I sent CCJ stuff to several addresses, and hand delivered the one to his Mum's address. That caused him to threaten me! (Even though it was Mothering Sunday, and being a good lad, he had taken his mum out for lunch) But did get conversation going....His Mum was a Director of a previous (failed) business, and this chap needed his Mum to do Childcare for his kids. Little bit of digging starts generating some fun stuff, like he was captain of a local pub football team, left a copy in the pub for him too....Eventually got some money off him, just by being a pain in his arse.

At no point did I actually meet him, didn't need to do anything violent, or threat of violence, and just used information from public domain. SO, I did nothing criminal, and managed to get some wedge, with no great risk to my person.

Seems to me that Mr Stravens will have quite a bit of revealing detail that can also be used, in a similar way. No need for attack dogs or baseball bats, they all take 10-20% of whatever is recovered anyway, just keep digging, raking and embarrassing him, and affecting his current business until he can't trade?

Has he got anything where you can leave a "review" of his services, Yellow Pages (Yell) as much as facebook or trustpilot? May not help you get money back, but may help others not getting done over.

Gullibility is the real issue. Any confidence trixter or con-man needs to find a victim with a degree of gullibility, or at least a suggestive vulnerability.

I am, I think, at the very opposite end of the spectrum. Problem is, I am so paranoid about everyone I deal with having the potential to rip me off, that I would rather turn down work, rather than risk a "knock". Being too risk adverse is also a problem.

Luckily, the number of Stravens and Shortmans in this world is low, most people's default position of trusting in others is actually fine, 99.999% of the time. Look at something like Ebay. Yes, we all hear about the dicks, it makes good column/forum inches. No one is going to write a long post about a transaction that went fine with no problems. No one would care, or read it.

Same with media in general; parents are paranoid about paedophiles on every street corner, because news storeys about a paedo or two sells papers. It would be quite a boring news item to say that 64.5 Million people are not paedo, did not steal a child, and quietly went about there daily grind without doing anything odd.

So, for the good of the heard mentality and the common good, sharing stories about the bad people out there helps to "vaccinate" the heard against that threat, but it also erodes trust in everyone else.

Bit of common sense is probably required, bit of query as to why is this person saying this, this way, to me; what is their angle? And then risk assess. What do I do to mitigate the risk (credit card?), and worst case, walk away.

I bought some TVs off the internet for an install. Price was far to good to be true, site was weird, English and German addresses were courier logistics warehouses, but a Chech company, owned by an Indian syndicate, alarm bells ringing. Paid by credit card. Goods arrived as promised, and are what they claim to be, so all good. Perhaps my paranoia was misplaced but I mitigated my risk to cover me. If it had gone tits up, do CC charge back.

 

maybe you could elaborate on that so people can be at least be weary when dealing with him given his past exploits

 

The people who buy from him no its him, he has been seen regular on the scene over the last year.

 

All I will say is people use services like this because there cheap.

 

I no this as one of my cliants is still chasing him for Money, and is in contact with him.

Ready to rob more people ... beware !! 

http://www.originalsoundsystem.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.originalsoundsystem.com

Love his £49K system! Bet he sells several a day.

Who is supplying him PowerSoft K series? CUK aren't likely to offer credit, as any competent Credit Check will show up with all manor of alarm bells?

Probably someone trading as, not ltd, so it will not show up on companies or director's checks.

Unless he is "limited", then any failure to pay up or deliver, is on his neck, personally liable, from a court's P.O.V. As a Ltd, you fold, enter administration, and dissolve - end of liability. However enters a Bankruptcy/IVA petition, and he walks off again, with whatever he made cash under the mattress.

Once you do fold a Ltd, you can be struck off as being "unfit to be a Director" for 5 years, but as long as he pays HMRC and his bank what he owes them, very few others would bother to enact it!

No mention of VAT reg either, but until he turns over £85K per annum, no need to charge VAT.

My issue, is how is he bank rolling this? To offer stock for sale, you either have to hold stock, or have drop shipping arrangements in place from suppliers, at reduced margin.

Who is supplying him PowerSoft, if he isn't "Ltd", is beyond me. I can't think of anyone who would supply that level of goods (i.e. where PowerSoft, through massive list price and deals to trade and pro-end user, if Brit Row asked to buy 100 off K20, they would probably be served with some form of deal!) pro-forma either. They (CUK) would direct you to your local retailer...

Reeks of offering the world, but delivering pizza boxes full of bricks.