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Topic: Line-X
Posted By: Jimmer
Subject: Line-X
Date Posted: 27 January 2016 at 7:58pm
Evening Gents!

Just wanted to ask peoples opinion on Line-X coating for speaker boxes. There was quite a big deal about it on the forum over the last couple of years and it seemed nothing but positive reviews were heard. I have seen what it is like in the flesh and it really is a lovely finish.

I was wondering now a year or so has passed, are the reviews still as good as they were initially? has it lived up to your expectations? and ultimately is it as tough as everyone was saying? so worth the outlay?

By all means feel free to post pics of your line-X finished rigs/cabs Thumbs Up

Cheers
Jim


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Posted By: bee
Date Posted: 27 January 2016 at 8:02pm
ive seen it chip on some cabs, but over all, its better than standard coatings, if a little pricey.

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Posted By: wires
Date Posted: 27 January 2016 at 8:14pm
Basically looks great and is very hard wearing, but of course it will chip and scratch over time which is a pain when needing a touch up. It also added a fair bit of weight to my mates cabs i helped to move around.

If you can afford the outlay then it is a very good option to go with and won't be disappointed.

Personally and after much thought i would choose warnex or 2 part properly sprayed and get some road covers. No matter what option, if you do enough gigs then they'll need maintaining at some point.



Posted By: Jimmer
Date Posted: 27 January 2016 at 8:17pm
Cheers guys, my biggest concern would be chipping and not being able to touch up at a later date.. food for thought

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Posted By: bee
Date Posted: 27 January 2016 at 8:26pm
you can get chips repaired, they do, do repair kits. Last lot I had done I was offered repair kits...

If you want line x contact linex direct and they will put you in contact with an authorised spray centre, There are other cheaper brands being sold as line x.... did not take long lol...


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Posted By: Jimmer
Date Posted: 27 January 2016 at 10:15pm
Nice one, cheers for the heads up

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Posted By: csg
Date Posted: 28 January 2016 at 9:01pm
my experience of 4 or so years is still very good. The first batch of my mk3 single 18's are still out there and have clocked up 100's of gigs and truck packs in that time, and none are needing refurb. Warnex / 2 pack cant touch that, even with covers.

there are various grades out there, my preference for durability is a softer, more rubbery coating as this marks less and does not chip like harder grades. 3mm thick for subs, 1.5mm for smaller cabs generally.


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Posted By: wires
Date Posted: 28 January 2016 at 9:19pm
No denying it's stronger than warnex/2 pack, i just meant in my case it worked out better to go with covers and fresh coats now and then at this time. Plus i'd still use the covers if i change my mind :) 

That's interesting on the different grades Chris, not sure i've seen the softer stuff in the flesh in that case.
Does it 'grip' better if it is more rubbery?


Posted By: JEB88
Date Posted: 28 January 2016 at 9:45pm
Anyone who's line-x'd their cabs, how do you find the dirt sticks to them? I'm thinking about getting my cabs line-x'd but just wondering if it's going to be nightmare to clean them with the sandpaper looking texture of line x 


Posted By: bee
Date Posted: 28 January 2016 at 9:48pm
jet spray em clean... if they get dirty. (remove driver first lol)

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Posted By: csg
Date Posted: 29 January 2016 at 2:52pm
Yes, the softer stuff does grip a little better, no substitute for feet and sockets though. 

+1 on the  occasional jetwash, although i have to confess we don't drop the drivers out...


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Posted By: Jimmer
Date Posted: 29 January 2016 at 8:00pm
Perfect, thanks for the info Gents....Chris you have a pm Thumbs Up

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Posted By: Liteworks
Date Posted: 30 January 2016 at 7:40pm
If you go for Line-X deffinatly go for the slightly more rubbery consistancy (and slightly thicker), really can't go wrong with that if you can stump up the initial cost!

Chris's singles 18's still look quite good after a few years use(far better than paint), but year old Stasys X v2's, quite franly look appauling in comparison (chips and more so, scuffs on the surfaces.. on a big heavy box like the Stasys X, they will get bumped and scrapped..).   Obviously when it's harder to 'touch up' it's realy noticible.. you can't just throw a lick of paint on....

Void (Stasys X v2's), as well as Turbosound (TMW115's) and JBL (MRX512m's) (from my experiance, having in stock for several years) seem to use a LOT harder consistancy for there line-x (or line-X esq finnishes), gives a better 'new' look, but both chip and scuff's far to easilly.  The more rubbery consistancy shrugs off scrapes and scratches far better as well as not chipping any where near as easilly, while may not give quite such a good 'new' feel... but how long do these things stayy 'new'?

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Posted By: MarjanM
Date Posted: 30 January 2016 at 8:02pm
Chris, how much they charged you per box to paint them?
I am trying to figure out how much more expensive actually is over the Warnex. Considering a purchase of a small PU paint system and still having trouble figuring out how much will that affect the products end cost.
Some will love it, some will hate the price increase so have to thread carefully.


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Posted By: csg
Date Posted: 30 January 2016 at 9:30pm
the price increase over warnex should be fairly modest in terms of a percentage of the purchase cost of any pro spec rig.

single 18 sub would run at around £80 net with the cab fully prepped for spraying. The rig is expensive, however, so off course that has to be worked into the costing, particularly if your run volume is fairly low.


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Posted By: wires
Date Posted: 30 January 2016 at 10:05pm
liteworks - That makes a lot on sense now as all the stuff i've seen must have been the harder stuff and put me off. Might have to revisit the idea now, cheers for all the info!


Posted By: MarjanM
Date Posted: 30 January 2016 at 10:15pm
Originally posted by csg csg wrote:

the price increase over warnex should be fairly modest in terms of a percentage of the purchase cost of any pro spec rig.

single 18 sub would run at around £80 net with the cab fully prepped for spraying. The rig is expensive, however, so off course that has to be worked into the costing, particularly if your run volume is fairly low.

Our volume for now is modest. Average is about 200 boxes per year. Cost of the rig aside i am more interested of whats the paint consumption and stuff like that and seems to be very hard to find any first hand info about it.
Also the rig is quite thirsty in terms of power consumption. Its like 10KW or so.


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Posted By: Phil B
Date Posted: 13 February 2016 at 6:57am
One thing that can help with weight is to maybe build boxes with a thinner ply? At BRP there was discussion a few years ago about building a newer run of flight cases ( no speakers) out of 15mm with 3 mm Line-X . I moved overseas so don`t know if that happened? This is still way stronger and durable than 18mm ply with standard paint finish and about the same weight.

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Posted By: djhrh
Date Posted: 13 September 2019 at 5:38am
just wondering if you could five me a bit more info regarding the rubbery grade you speak of.. the grades are 100, 350 etc and the place near us only does 350 is that the correct grade?
Cheers!



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