Elemental Wave Soundsystem
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Topic: Elemental Wave Soundsystem
Posted By: elemental wave
Subject: Elemental Wave Soundsystem
Date Posted: 08 March 2016 at 6:47pm
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Greetings Speakerplans crew, we would like to share our new soundsystem with all of you, as we have finally found the sound we like. It took us about 15 years of playing, building, listening and trying out different set ups within the commercial sector aswell as the DIY area. Enjoy the pictures! This was taken last weekend @ Muffathalle Munich, Schlachthofbronx premier with Blurred Vision  Here it was set up for the promo video clip for Blurred Vision in an abandoned paper factory  And here the first stack while testing  you can see more pictures on our website: http://elemental-wave.de/ - http://elemental-wave.de/ or visit us on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/elementalwavesystem/ - http://www.facebook.com/elementalwavesoundsystem/ Thanks |
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Posted By: geoSal
Date Posted: 08 March 2016 at 6:59pm
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That is massive.. what are you powering them with?dsp? I bet the huge row of x1's makes a strong power alley in the middle without delays between them.How do they perform 16 side by side on the ground? |
Posted By: elemental wave
Date Posted: 08 March 2016 at 7:14pm
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We are powering the lot with mostly Lab.Gruppen but trying out some other amps aswell at the moment and a xilica to control it. The performance of 16 side by side was better than we thought, so we didn't delay them, as the sound was quite equally spread in the hall, of course a little less at the walls, but that turned out to be a good thing, causing allmost no reflections. Performance wise, over 1000 people and the place was rumbling all over, we where happy and the performing djs where aswell |
Posted By: mk2_ginger_biscuit69
Date Posted: 08 March 2016 at 7:27pm
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if you cant make a room of 1000people wobble with that much kit, you have done something seriously wrong. Midtop aside, i would expect that rig to be capable of much larger crowds. looks mean! ------------- ''Remember that the object of a subwoofer is to enhance the output of your main speakers, not overpower it'' ''Dubstep - an elongated electronic fart'' |
Posted By: all bass
Date Posted: 08 March 2016 at 8:15pm
Blurred vision sounds like a proper name for a 1000 people event with a stack like this...  3 way bass? ------------- https://www.instagram.com/my_modular_journey/ |
Posted By: cravings
Date Posted: 08 March 2016 at 8:28pm
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16 X1s! good times there... that's the most i've ever heard of in one setup. what are they loaded with? have you tried them on their sides? could be even better that way.. edit: and are they super bass horns too? |
Posted By: Sapro2
Date Posted: 08 March 2016 at 8:32pm
Oh yeah!   ------------- Splat Soundsystem Baby Sham pram Soundsystem Sapro - SoundCloud https://soundcloud.com/sapro DJ Sapro. West country free party DJ and Producer. |
elemental wave wrote:Posted By: bob4
Date Posted: 08 March 2016 at 9:05pm
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MAXIMUM RESPECT! |
Posted By: bob4
Date Posted: 08 March 2016 at 9:08pm
funnily enough, people claim the opposite.... that they work better stood up. Beats me.... I haven't had the opportunity to test this myself. Usually I've used mine as they were designed. Maybe elemental wave care to elaborate?  |
Posted By: mk2_ginger_biscuit69
Date Posted: 08 March 2016 at 9:45pm
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idea is upright, the lower tuned port is coupled to the floor, whereas on their sides, couple both ports to the floor. in reality, looking at lengths of wavelengths involved here, and shear quantity, im not sure it will make much/any different here!! ------------- ''Remember that the object of a subwoofer is to enhance the output of your main speakers, not overpower it'' ''Dubstep - an elongated electronic fart'' |
Posted By: Dutchman
Date Posted: 09 March 2016 at 12:17am
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Nice rig! Also super bass horns? ------------- We need more SPL! |
Posted By: King George
Date Posted: 09 March 2016 at 9:45pm
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So do you use the X1s and the SBH?s in the same pass band orrrr??? What are the tops too? Looks MENTAL mind, nice work. |
Posted By: discosucks
Date Posted: 09 March 2016 at 10:10pm
| that many x1's makes the sbh look small haha |
Posted By: KidCreole
Date Posted: 10 March 2016 at 3:14am
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Sbh low frequency HORN. X1 low frequency BP Why? ------------- Mykey Wattco |
Posted By: geoSal
Date Posted: 11 March 2016 at 2:46pm
maybe some sort of small overlap?with careful xover delay and eq settings?? it is quite usual these days.. |
Posted By: geoSal
Date Posted: 11 March 2016 at 2:55pm
maybe some sort of small overlap?with careful xover delay and eq settings?? it is quite usual these days.. sorry doublepost. |
Posted By: rosssss224
Date Posted: 11 March 2016 at 5:27pm
| lms settings???? |
Posted By: corell
Date Posted: 11 March 2016 at 5:55pm
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The tops are Limmer 308, for those who wanted to know. I dont get the SBH / X1 mixing aswell, i think they will use the X1 only for the very low notes because people seem to prefer wobbling in this range more than precision. |
Posted By: bass*en*mass
Date Posted: 12 March 2016 at 9:54am
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+ most likely limmer 115s bphs dsp settings and idea behind the mix of bass cabs would be interesting indeed :) guess 30-60/60-90/90-180/180up? what puzzles me is the sbh+115 in the same passband (..none of both honestly copes well with imho) |
Posted By: Dutchman
Date Posted: 12 March 2016 at 11:09am
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Get rid of all the X1's , get some more SBH and that is one tasty rig!! ------------- We need more SPL! |
Posted By: elemental wave
Date Posted: 14 March 2016 at 10:33am
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First of all, thanks for the positiv comments. I will try to answer some of your questions: Don't know about too many other x1, but ours seem to be quite tight on the low end. You are close on guessing the crossovers, but we change and adjust them to the requierments of the locations every time we set the sound up. So there is no real answer I can give you here. Midtop may look small to keep up with the bass (yes to the 3 way bass question), but it's really quite powerfull and wasn't pushed near maximum yet. Laying the x1 or having them standing up, we haven't done an A/B test yet, so can't tell you for sure, but we have tried both, indoor and outdoor and it was good either way. We choose how to set them up mainly on location requierments depending hight and width. Luckely enough, we can plan, before stacking  |
Posted By: KidCreole
Date Posted: 14 March 2016 at 11:05pm
And it took them 15 years to get to this stage Not having a go. But find set ups like this, teenager'ish ------------- Mykey Wattco |
Posted By: elemental wave
Date Posted: 15 March 2016 at 2:41pm
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Well, we do not judge a book by it's cover and for us, there are no bad soundsystems, especially, because sound and the perceptive is individual and subjective, so our aim was to reproduce a sound we find most plesant. This setup works just fine for us, but I certainly get your point on the 2 different cabinets in the same bandwith, but it works. After some testing and playing in different venues, we discovered, that for "our" sound, this choice was just right. And according to some opinions from people who have heard it and know their ways in music a little, the sound seems to be quite nice. But all of this talking wont tell you how it sounds, you will need to come and listen  |
Posted By: elemental wave
Date Posted: 05 July 2016 at 5:37pm
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Posted By: eyeT
Date Posted: 05 July 2016 at 6:54pm
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do you have any trouble with feed back/needle jump set up like that? |
Posted By: Thomas Hosker
Date Posted: 05 July 2016 at 7:42pm
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3D printed mini rig there? ------------- WWW.T8Audio.Com |
Posted By: elemental wave
Date Posted: 06 July 2016 at 10:32am
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Feedback is still an issue with this setup, but we are close to solving the problem Yes, it's a 3D printed minirig on a scale of 1:25, makes planing a lot easier and is a lot more fun than in a 3D programm on a pc. |
Posted By: Darkstar
Date Posted: 06 July 2016 at 12:24pm
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Wonderful idea on the 3D minirig! ------------- Bass =/= Enough |
Posted By: elemental wave
Date Posted: 21 November 2016 at 11:07am
 a few weeks back @ Mojo Club in Hamburg |