Speakon other brands
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Topic: Speakon other brands
Posted By: Explicit 2
Subject: Speakon other brands
Date Posted: 12 June 2016 at 4:57pm
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Hi Guys So are other speakon brands Pulse, HQ etc not worth using? Don't shout at me I'm a newbie. |
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Posted By: ceharden
Date Posted: 12 June 2016 at 6:04pm
| They work but break more easily |
Posted By: nuclearbass
Date Posted: 12 June 2016 at 6:24pm
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lately neutrik have been failing on us, we bought around 30 new nl2s last year and within 6 months about 8 of them had the metals clips snapped off. ------------- one life - have fun! Force fusion pro audio |
Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 12 June 2016 at 7:07pm
| Are they genuine? Where did you get them from? Ebay etc have fakes a plenty. Also NL2 are cheap shite, no excuse not to just buy NL4FX for the lot, preferably the metal cased solder ones with matching sockets on boxes so that they're better in wet weather and more durable. |
Posted By: kedwardsleisure
Date Posted: 12 June 2016 at 7:14pm
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Lots of fake and 'copied' neutriks around. If they arent genuine neutrik then I dont think they will work properly. I've seen alot with snapped brass bits, snapped plastic bits, poor compatibility and overheated bits etc. If its on the back of an amp its tough but at least if you buy genuine parts you know they'll be fine. I dont think Neutrik have licensed the design to anyone else, AFAIK. ------------- Kevin North Staffordshire |
Posted By: TMH Music
Date Posted: 12 June 2016 at 10:02pm
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Sorry for hijack but I've got to make up some 4 core 2.5mm and 4 core 4mm speaker cables in not too distant future. Debating whether to go mixture of NL4FX and NL4FC (as FX may have problem with 4 core 4mm H07), or whether to just go FC for all. Thoughts and recommendations for best place to buy appreciated. Seems to be big price variances, certainly for FX; £3 to £6!!! Also seems to be difficult to get hold of FC. ------------- Nothing is foolproof because fools are so ingenious |
Posted By: jerronimo
Date Posted: 14 June 2016 at 7:57pm
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No not really: %20" rel="nofollow - http://www.thomann.de/nl/neutrik_nl4fc.htm?offid=5&affid=1&subid=105217NL&subid2=Neutrik+NL4+FC&origin=boost&gclid=CLmtmsmYqM0CFUwq0wodq9MAwA |
Posted By: Mircea Bartic
Date Posted: 14 June 2016 at 10:28pm
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use NLT4FX for 4x4mm cable, They really are worth the price ------------- general manager & head designer at nexus-acoustics research http://www.facebook.com/nexus.acoustics.research" rel="nofollow - http://www.facebook.com/nexus.acoustics.research Ex Nexus_3 |
Posted By: Pasi
Date Posted: 15 June 2016 at 12:07am
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Proper Amphenol anyday over Neutrik. |
Posted By: _djk_
Date Posted: 15 June 2016 at 1:25am
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"Proper Amphenol anyday over Neutrik." +1 http://www.parts-express.com/amphenol-sp-2-fn-loudspeaker-cable-connector-2-pole-metal-shell-blue-sleeve--092-0170" rel="nofollow - http://www.parts-express.com/amphenol-sp-2-fn-loudspeaker-cable-connector-2-pole-metal-shell-blue-sleeve--092-0170 ------------- djk |
Posted By: stevie
Date Posted: 15 June 2016 at 8:58am
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I bought four of these recently: < http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4-Pcs-Red-Color-Speakon-4-Pin-Male-Plug-Compatible-Audio-Cable-Connector-/252138293247>" rel="nofollow - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4-Pcs-Red-Color-Speakon-4-Pin-Male-Plug-Compatible-Audio-Cable-Connector-/252138293247> ;. I also ordered a couple of the older, twist-lock types. There are plenty of Speakons on eBay that look like obvious copies, but these look and feel like genuine Neutriks. Whether they perform as well as the Swiss-made ones is another matter. However, a bit of digging revealed that Neutrik have a factory in China, in Ningbo. These say "made in Ningbo" on the label, which is why I thought I'd give them a try. Of course metal-bodied are always going to be best, but I'm happy with these at less than a pound apiece delivered. |
Posted By: Mircea Bartic
Date Posted: 15 June 2016 at 10:41am
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these are fake , obviously Neutrik owns the brand RANE which they manufacture in China All speakons are made in Europe ------------- general manager & head designer at nexus-acoustics research http://www.facebook.com/nexus.acoustics.research" rel="nofollow - http://www.facebook.com/nexus.acoustics.research Ex Nexus_3 |
Posted By: Pasi
Date Posted: 15 June 2016 at 11:16am
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Close. It is REAN, not RANE |
Posted By: Explicit 2
Date Posted: 15 June 2016 at 11:33am
| I was hoping people would say what other brands of 'speakon style' speaker connectors they use (have tried) and their experience with them, Is everyone really using Neutrik? I think I read on here that Pulse is CPC brand? Would CPC put their name to a bag of shite? The price difference between Neutrik and Pulse is considerable. |
Posted By: el chupacabra
Date Posted: 15 June 2016 at 11:34am
| I'm in the amphenol camp. They do connector's with strain relief so that was what sold me. |
Posted By: stevie
Date Posted: 15 June 2016 at 12:13pm
They're not fake because they don't say Neutrik on them. Do you have some evidence to back up the claim that Speakons are only made in Europe? |
Mircea Bartic wrote:Posted By: imageoven
Date Posted: 15 June 2016 at 2:04pm
I have seen some terrible products branded as Pulse. I wouldn't touch them. ------------- Keep pushing on, things are gonna get better. |
Posted By: LunchieTey
Date Posted: 17 June 2016 at 5:20pm
They're fake because firstly they are 'Pratt' branded, not neutrik. The ad even says Speakon 'compatible'. Every single non genuine speakon STYLE connector I have tried has been rubbish. ALL of them have been binned and are all now genuine ONLY purchased from known genuine sources. Some of the copies are VERY close when you look at them but once the cheap plastic starts snapping and those cheap screws strip out etc, it's just money down the toilet. They(genuine) are not that expensive, just use the right ones. If you need colour coded speakons, order their coloured rings.
------------- Speaker addict |
Posted By: stevie
Date Posted: 17 June 2016 at 10:28pm
Exactly. And that's why they are not fakes. They are not passing themselves off as Neutriks. A fake is a forgery or a counterfeit. If they had the Neutrik brand name on them they would be fakes. Look, I'm not trying to sell these to anyone. I'm just reporting on my experience on some alternatives to the usual Speakons, which is what this thread is about. They look like a good deal for anyone looking to save a bit of money. |
Posted By: LunchieTey
Date Posted: 17 June 2016 at 10:44pm
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Well would you want your last 4 core to snap a plug 5 mins before you need it to save a few $? What would that be worth to you then? Like I said, I've tried 4 alternatives, some from chain stores, some from ebay(although I haven't tried the amphenol-other amphenol products like XLRs I have used have been excellent) have ALL failed rather quickly. Nothing worse than having to sit with a screwdriver and swap a plug at the last minute. I know this because I have had to do it with a cheapy that snapped AND it was as the event organiser walked by with a disapproving look... ------------- Speaker addict |
Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 18 June 2016 at 1:22am
| Even on a huge rig, going to clones saves you what, £100? That's not a lot of cash for peace of mind. If it's that tight use bloody banana plugs. |
Posted By: Daddy Culture
Date Posted: 16 November 2022 at 8:48pm
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Hey, I just discovered a chinese brand and they are doing a great work.. better than Neutrik in some points (waterproof, better finishing, doesnt smash the cable like Amphenol) for an affordable price. Its called SREXACT, follow the link if anyone want to try: https://a.aliexpress.com/_mOql77w" rel="nofollow - https://a.aliexpress.com/_mOql77w |
Posted By: teeth
Date Posted: 17 November 2022 at 6:43am
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i've used REAN before, they are decent enough |
Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 17 November 2022 at 11:47am
REAN is Neutrik’s own budget brand  https://neutrikgroup.com/rean-2/ |
Posted By: RoadRunnersDust
Date Posted: 21 November 2022 at 9:52am
I use those as a cheap alternative to Neutrik (mainly for things such as amp rack patch panels where they will be plugged in once and left like that). They're decent but they are by no means better than Neutrik or Amphenol. They're also not waterproof. Splash-proof maybe... That's not an amazing price for them either, that's pretty much Neutrik money if you're not buying your connectors from a ridiculous source EDIT: They're actually more expensive once you factor in postage... ------------- www.guildfordcablecompany.co.uk" rel="nofollow - www.guildfordcablecompany.co.uk |
Posted By: Daddy Culture
Date Posted: 21 November 2022 at 3:39pm
| What do you use? |
Posted By: Daddy Culture
Date Posted: 21 November 2022 at 3:40pm
| Which brand? |
Posted By: RoadRunnersDust
Date Posted: 21 November 2022 at 3:49pm
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The ones you linked to but from a different supplier ------------- www.guildfordcablecompany.co.uk" rel="nofollow - www.guildfordcablecompany.co.uk |