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Topic: -=SHOW OFF YOUR SOUND SYSTEM!!!!=-PART 3
Posted By: Administrator
Subject: -=SHOW OFF YOUR SOUND SYSTEM!!!!=-PART 3
Date Posted: 24 August 2016 at 10:15am
New Topic as the old was getting a little large.

Post your pics for your Sound Systems here Big smile



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Posted By: vertx
Date Posted: 24 August 2016 at 11:14am
Translate Soundsystem!






Posted By: Jimmer
Date Posted: 24 August 2016 at 11:25am
That looks a sweet setup Vertx, nice Smile

Little stage we did earlier in the year...

Martin F1MH x 2
Martin F2b x 4

Powered by Crest pro200 series amps

Very happy with how this rig is sounding at the mo







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Posted By: Teunos
Date Posted: 24 August 2016 at 11:57am
Is that a dc-one or a dx46?

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Posted By: Jimmer
Date Posted: 24 August 2016 at 12:22pm
dc-one fella 

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Posted By: tmg
Date Posted: 25 August 2016 at 9:40am
Good idea! Here's our setup for The ASBO Disco at Boomtown Fair:



Posted By: mi mong
Date Posted: 30 August 2016 at 7:10pm
my system from the weekend 6 marco mn246 subs and 6 orbit4 cabs from timebomb all powered of sae amps from paulie paul...........

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i went out today in my dressing gown......


Posted By: nickyburnell
Date Posted: 31 August 2016 at 8:01am
How do the subs perform? What drivers?


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Posted By: mi mong
Date Posted: 31 August 2016 at 5:19pm
Originally posted by nickyburnell nickyburnell wrote:

How do the subs perform? What drivers?
I have fane xb in four of the cabs and fane sb in another four......the cabs perform well with both these drivers but I prefer the  sb to be honest..... nice rich smooth bass line

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Posted By: Timebomb
Date Posted: 31 August 2016 at 5:41pm
Originally posted by mi mong mi mong wrote:

Originally posted by nickyburnell nickyburnell wrote:

How do the subs perform? What drivers?
I have fane xb in four of the cabs and fane sb in another four......the cabs perform well with both these drivers but I prefer the  sb to be honest..... nice rich smooth bass line

Youve got 8 subs now then Mark?  You must have been busy. :)


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Posted By: mi mong
Date Posted: 31 August 2016 at 7:14pm
Originally posted by Timebomb Timebomb wrote:

Originally posted by mi mong mi mong wrote:

Originally posted by nickyburnell nickyburnell wrote:

How do the subs perform? What drivers?
I have fane xb in four of the cabs and fane sb in another four......the cabs perform well with both these drivers but I prefer the  sb to be honest..... nice rich smooth bass line

Youve got 8 subs now then Mark?  You must have been busy. :)
yes mate but not for long.......4 of them go on an install this weekend with some orbit4 too......Big smile


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Posted By: b grade
Date Posted: 05 September 2016 at 11:00pm


Posted By: bee
Date Posted: 05 September 2016 at 11:06pm


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Posted By: bee
Date Posted: 05 September 2016 at 11:08pm
4 x double 21" quakes
2 x BSW-K215's
4 x mid highs
 
All designed and built by myself... please note one of the middle hf horns was not turned on.


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Posted By: bob4
Date Posted: 06 September 2016 at 6:41am
Originally posted by b grade b grade wrote:


HF stacked vertical + physical time alignment Thumbs Up


Posted By: Sapro2
Date Posted: 06 September 2016 at 10:36am
Originally posted by b grade b grade wrote:



You always have lovely locations for your venues B grade. Do the mid horns reach high enough to meet your tweeters?


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Posted By: all bass
Date Posted: 06 September 2016 at 11:36am
Originally posted by b grade b grade wrote:


Looking great! 

No job for the reflex subs this time?
Originally posted by Sapro2 Sapro2 wrote:


You always have lovely locations for your venues B grade.
Oregon is the most beautiful place on earth. (when it's not raining Wink)


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Posted By: b grade
Date Posted: 06 September 2016 at 2:10pm
Originally posted by Sapro2 Sapro2 wrote:


You always have lovely locations for your venues B grade. Do the mid horns reach high enough to meet your tweeters?

The tweeter boxes are actually a slightly larger range than you would think. My lo-fi(nance) solution was to make a 2way passive crossover box. The dual horns are the same but the drivers are different. The lower horn has a more vocal mid comp on it and that can technically go lower than the horn, but not as efficient as the hf comp. Still it bridges the gap pretty well without costing ridiculous money. Obviously I would prefer to have less crossovers. I can run the tweeter boxes as low as 800 hz before it starts sounding horrid, but I usually run them at about 1.2khz. The passive crossover between the comp drivers is at 4.5khz I think.

Thanks for the kind words about the spot. This one was extra special, and found at the very last minute too. I almost did this party in my basement. LOL. My first time running two different rigs at the same party. My B system was fun too, but I forgot to take any pictures. That one was for a super low extension chill room. The one in the picture was for loudness, with a retro 90s goa theme. Free and illegal for authenticity.


Posted By: b grade
Date Posted: 06 September 2016 at 2:22pm
Originally posted by all bass all bass wrote:


Looking great! 

No job for the reflex subs this time?
Originally posted by Sapro2 Sapro2 wrote:


You always have lovely locations for your venues B grade.
Oregon is the most beautiful place on earth. (when it's not raining Wink)
Hi all bass! Hope you are well.
Second stage had the BP6s. I could only fit two in the van, but they were singing all night. On each side, above those I had a single 15, and then a coaxial mid top. It was for a small covered chill area, about 30 meters inside the tree-line. No soundbleed at all, and the stages were probably less than 100 meters apart. I love trees.


Posted By: Bams
Date Posted: 06 September 2016 at 8:18pm
This weekend was the Zundert flower parade. I had some involvement in two floats. first one used EV RX, other one used Sound projects X-act with subs. 

https://youtu.be/QYff9F_x_bA" rel="nofollow - https://youtu.be/QYff9F_x_bA
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both used dedicated soundscapes, the last one blowing winds, supported by fans.. lots of fans.. first one used madrix for pixelmapping and loads of broken 15"and 18"speakers  for the looks of much gear.

winning float used D&B Q7

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Posted By: el chupacabra
Date Posted: 07 September 2016 at 7:34am
This last weekend had nearly everything out in one go at Common Ground Festival.

Community TFR 34a x4, 6x Faital XL1600 loaded TH1819 tapped horn & all run from powersoft with Community oem Xilica DSP.

Logic LM12 wedges with EAW JF100 & Void Mycro Bass



4 x Community SLS920, 6x RCF LF18N401 loaded USB2
Run from PLX3602 and SAE PXM 1450

Community M12 monitors with another Eaw JF100 and a beyma loaded 2x12" reflex sub for drum mons.
SiEx1 Mixer.



And 2x Community SLS920 with the most recent pair of tapped horns, still unpainted.
Powered by Matrix XT800 and XT7000MF.



First time out for four TH1819 back in April with the tapped horns as sub under USB2.




Posted By: rish
Date Posted: 07 September 2016 at 9:29am

Very nice El. how do those tapped horns perform?

Rish


Posted By: Sinai Sound
Date Posted: 08 September 2016 at 6:12pm
Managed to get out almost all of the sound the other week in Bristol

Another mid-top is in the warehouse, and another 4 scoops being built at the minute...




Posted By: Dub Specialist Sound
Date Posted: 08 September 2016 at 9:12pm
nice!



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Posted By: el chupacabra
Date Posted: 08 September 2016 at 9:37pm
Originally posted by rish rish wrote:

Very nice El. how do those tapped horns perform?

Rish


Pretty wild. Not very efficient but play all the 20's and 30's with ease and very clean so it can get quite unsettling.
Work fine fullrange but settled on 24-55hz with usb2 above and that gets a bit silly. Had a good go with them on everything from live bands, roots & dub and various different bass music genres. Has made it a bit easier at festivals when the full spectrum means you can play quieter but still nurture vibes. Had a little surprise visit from noise management at shambala though when using the void judgement dub to get an impedance reading on the k10 and a steppas vinyl (conscious youth) to check for deck feedback... turned into an inadvertent propagation test.

They're pretty manageable. About 110kg and similar size to a psyco. Good handles.


Posted By: imageoven
Date Posted: 08 September 2016 at 9:59pm
Originally posted by Jimmer Jimmer wrote:








Unusual mod to the dimming pack bottom right there and the lighting stands in front of the stacks look a little exposed? Were there crowd barriers or was it not that kind of gig?

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Posted By: Bad Man Moriarty
Date Posted: 09 September 2016 at 12:28am
well there are two quite annoying questions right there


Posted By: GorillaAudio
Date Posted: 09 September 2016 at 12:54am
http://s1275.photobucket.com/user/george_chandler1/media/Ckg5zpJW0AAALQP_zpstukvwugp.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">

Stormzy and some of our Psycos and Primes In an EX top secret, Underground, WW2 Rover factory. This was for a Secret exclusive party Held by Spotify earlier in the year. 


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Posted By: GorillaAudio
Date Posted: 09 September 2016 at 1:11am
http://s1275.photobucket.com/user/george_chandler1/media/DSC_0004%201_zps9rvqpqiw.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">
http://s1275.photobucket.com/user/george_chandler1/media/DSC_0015%203_zpsxkhwfx8i.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">
 Same system set up slightly different at a Girl Guides Festival (Bit of an odd one for us). This was the first time i'd used this system outside with X-Series amps and some slightly new X Over settings. (I had used them before in the Tunnel above, but it still of course sounded like a tunnel regardless). It was also hooked up to the Console via AES. Had loads of Bands, singers, acoustic acts through it over the course of the weekend and even I was fairly gobsmacked at how well it performed, and how little effort it took to get it sounding amazing for live performance. (its admittedly been a pain at times in the past)  Those amps make one hell of a difference. Shame we got such strict noise limits. 


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Posted By: nickyburnell
Date Posted: 09 September 2016 at 8:09am
Originally posted by Sinai Sound Sinai Sound wrote:

Managed to get out almost all of the sound the other week in Bristol

Another mid-top is in the warehouse, and another 4 scoops being built at the minute...




Wow!  Let's have some details?



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Posted By: tmg
Date Posted: 09 September 2016 at 8:33am
Big up Sinai. Gutted I couldn't make it down for a listen in the end.


Posted By: Sinai Sound
Date Posted: 09 September 2016 at 11:39am
8 x PD1852 Polar Bear Scoops
8 x ex-Iration Steppas mid tops
Loaded with RCF MB15H401, B&C 12NDL76, BMS 4554 & Beyma CP22

Powersoft K3 DSP
Powersoft K3 DSP
Powersoft K20 DSP
Powersoft K20 DSP




Posted By: Jimmer
Date Posted: 09 September 2016 at 2:41pm
Originally posted by imageoven imageoven wrote:

 
Unusual mod to the dimming pack bottom right there and the lighting stands in front of the stacks look a little exposed? Were there crowd barriers or was it not that kind of gig?

Yeah not that type of gig fella. Sure it wasn't ideal, but as you can see by the steep pitch of the marquee roof, I couldn't getc them any wider. Had to light the faces somehow! 

Also all my generic lighting is on 16a ceeform, so to save taking big dimmer racks and socca breakouts, a little 4 way dim pack with ceeform sockets is ideal for little setups like this.

Hope that puts your mind at rest...

Ps. It sounded really good...Wink


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Posted By: Earplug
Date Posted: 09 September 2016 at 6:29pm
Originally posted by GorillaAudio GorillaAudio wrote:

http://s1275.photobucket.com/user/george_chandler1/media/DSC_0004%201_zps9rvqpqiw.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">
http://s1275.photobucket.com/user/george_chandler1/media/DSC_0015%203_zpsxkhwfx8i.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">
 Same system set up slightly different at a Girl Guides Festival (Bit of an odd one for us). This was the first time i'd used this system outside with X-Series amps and some slightly new X Over settings. (I had used them before in the Tunnel above, but it still of course sounded like a tunnel regardless). It was also hooked up to the Console via AES. Had loads of Bands, singers, acoustic acts through it over the course of the weekend and even I was fairly gobsmacked at how well it performed, and how little effort it took to get it sounding amazing for live performance. (its admittedly been a pain at times in the past)  Those amps make one hell of a difference. Shame we got such strict noise limits. 



Those Girls Guides must have been pretty wild to need all those barriers!   LOL




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Posted By: GorillaAudio
Date Posted: 09 September 2016 at 6:45pm
Originally posted by Earplug Earplug wrote:

Originally posted by GorillaAudio GorillaAudio wrote:

http://s1275.photobucket.com/user/george_chandler1/media/DSC_0004%201_zps9rvqpqiw.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">
http://s1275.photobucket.com/user/george_chandler1/media/DSC_0015%203_zpsxkhwfx8i.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">
 Same system set up slightly different at a Girl Guides Festival (Bit of an odd one for us). This was the first time i'd used this system outside with X-Series amps and some slightly new X Over settings. (I had used them before in the Tunnel above, but it still of course sounded like a tunnel regardless). It was also hooked up to the Console via AES. Had loads of Bands, singers, acoustic acts through it over the course of the weekend and even I was fairly gobsmacked at how well it performed, and how little effort it took to get it sounding amazing for live performance. (its admittedly been a pain at times in the past)  Those amps make one hell of a difference. Shame we got such strict noise limits. 



Those Girls Guides must have been pretty wild to need all those barriers!   LOL



Oh you'd be surprised!  LOL


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Posted By: imageoven
Date Posted: 09 September 2016 at 9:12pm
Originally posted by Jimmer Jimmer wrote:

Hope that puts your mind at rest.



Didn't mean to sound critical (or annoying) - just interested in why people do things the way they do.

I'm sure it did sound really good - looks great.

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Posted By: DanielIt
Date Posted: 09 September 2016 at 9:24pm
This is my sound sistem at the moment, 2 MTL-46 loaded with B&C neo drivers and 2 double 12 and a 2" CD. The 12" are PD121. Using the TSA 4-1300 for the tops and the Lab FP14K clone for the subs.Building 2 more subs at the moment and waiting for the Walmec Paint gun to arrive to try some Warnex on them.

Wish i had more pictures



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Posted By: fat_brstd
Date Posted: 12 September 2016 at 12:56am
Red Bull sponsored "The Great Antipodean Reggae Soundsystem Carnival" in Sydney Australia yesterday on Sunday. 4 sounds system out doors from midday to 7, noise police got upset around 5:30 but a great day for all involved.

Earthshaker (Adelaide) - Stack 1 - 24" reflex



Earthshaker (Adelaide) - Stack 2 - Quad 18" reflex



Heartical (Melbourne) - Stack 1 - Next to Earthshaker quads



Heartical (Melbourne) - Stack 2



Inner West Reggae Disco Machine (Sydney) - only had the 1 stack



KBI Killer Bass Injection (Perth) - 2 stacks of this



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Melbournes Rootical Warrior
Roots - Dub - Steppers

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Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 12 September 2016 at 2:10am
Laurin and myself at his silliness.



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Posted By: cravings
Date Posted: 12 September 2016 at 8:45am
that's quite a collection of stuff alright. what are the big subs the 2 stacks in the foreground are sitting on?


Posted By: THECANDLEMAN
Date Posted: 12 September 2016 at 9:20am
I think its 4 stacks of the exact same, just the photo makes the nearest stacks look like huge blocks of a dif sub

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Posted By: Sapro2
Date Posted: 12 September 2016 at 11:10am
Originally posted by b grade b grade wrote:

Originally posted by Sapro2 Sapro2 wrote:


You always have lovely locations for your venues B grade. Do the mid horns reach high enough to meet your tweeters?

The tweeter boxes are actually a slightly larger range than you would think. My lo-fi(nance) solution was to make a 2way passive crossover box. The dual horns are the same but the drivers are different. The lower horn has a more vocal mid comp on it and that can technically go lower than the horn, but not as efficient as the hf comp. Still it bridges the gap pretty well without costing ridiculous money. Obviously I would prefer to have less crossovers. I can run the tweeter boxes as low as 800 hz before it starts sounding horrid, but I usually run them at about 1.2khz. The passive crossover between the comp drivers is at 4.5khz I think.

Thanks for the kind words about the spot. This one was extra special, and found at the very last minute too. I almost did this party in my basement. LOL. My first time running two different rigs at the same party. My B system was fun too, but I forgot to take any pictures. That one was for a super low extension chill room. The one in the picture was for loudness, with a retro 90s goa theme. Free and illegal for authenticity.


Thanks B Grade. I reckon you run things just how I like them! Shame you are so far away!


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Splat Soundsystem
Baby Sham pram Soundsystem
Sapro - SoundCloud
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Posted By: jammin75
Date Posted: 15 September 2016 at 7:52pm




our little stack goin out tomorrow tried and failed to do a little sound check LOL

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Posted By: Teunos
Date Posted: 16 September 2016 at 7:57am
Did a stage on a small techno/house festival last weekend.
Nearest residential homes at 250m with a dba limit of 60 so cardioid it was.
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Ran an 8 channel snake to the stage from the x32 rack, controlled through the ipad without any glitches all night. Ideal for quickly switching djs on stage.
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Posted By: jammin75
Date Posted: 18 September 2016 at 4:55pm


well got to the irish centre digbeth on friday and no mans there to help get the set up to the function room !! so me and birthday boy had the honors boy was we hot wot a mission LOL set up everything and run sum tune a next man from the street came in and wants to hire us for an event LOL anyway after tuning up the set dropped sum pressure smashed a load of glasses in the bar a good and a bad thing Big smile  the nite went well playin all types of urban music dj taxi from kriss fm loved the set sed it was heavy and wants to link up with the wife and do sumthing Thumbs Up so all good and no casualties everything good Smile


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Posted By: all bass
Date Posted: 18 September 2016 at 6:20pm
Yamaha amps Teun?

How big a crowd can you cover with your rig?

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Posted By: Teunos
Date Posted: 18 September 2016 at 7:47pm
System is 
18'' tapped horn subs
15'' bph kicks
double 12'' lowmids
bms coax midhighs, driven actively on JBL 2385 horns. 

All controlled by the netmax and mixed with the X32 rack.
Single ethernet cable between the X32 and the Netmax for both audio and control, both have a Dante card.

The amps are renkus heinz branded Crest P7001 for lowmids and P6001 for midhigh and high.
The subs are driven by Dap vision 3500 and the kicks by Dap extreme 2400.
I'd say its about a 500 capacity system set up like this with bassheavy EDM.
Got 16 subs in total for a bit bigger. Always have plenty of headroom on kicks, lowmids and midhighs so that scales up pretty easy.

I'm looking for a new wifi accespoint that i can easily rackmount. Any suggestions?
Been looking at the NowSonic stage router, which seems to fit the bill perfectly, but its a bit pricey.
Removable antennas with SMA connector considered as well with proper directional antenna.


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Posted By: b grade
Date Posted: 20 September 2016 at 6:16pm
Little bit of a whole lot of pouring rain under dodgy pop-ups this time. This is morning after. Judge the crowd by the dirt scuffs. We had about 70 effing hardcore psytrance fans in near freezing rain, and a small but full dancefloor at 3 am. Can't really do better than that without being a legitimate business with real infrastructure and maybe even a (gasp) cover charge and permits. It was very wet and I was nervous about swamping all night, but we pulled it off. No water in any gear other than mud spatter and some stray drops on the outside.

System is 4 1850s loaded with FaitalPro (two per side...I know I know), Four of my own bp6 mono stacked 18s (for everything horns miss <50hz), four of my own mid horns, 2 cheapy dual comp boxes, and a couple yamaha 15"monitors for mid fill (this worked much better than I expected). QSC AMPS. Everything was stacked low because pop-up tents eat treble if you stack tall. The comps were about shoulder height, but I knew that we were not going to have hundreds out in that weather so I figure body blockage would be less of a problem.

The people loved it. It was the best sounding system I have ever put up for sure.

Technically, I am retired from illicit free parties after this one. We killed it. People are begging me to take more gigs. Most systems on here would prob eat mine, as I my budget has never been at all fat, but I have some pride in the fact that my amateur designs, inferior amps, educated budget driver swaps and DIY crap is chosen over some very nice branded gear, even though they undercut my price. I may do some more legit and safe gigs but other life, family and spinal concerns are changing my priorities in my 40s. Young scrappy people got this.

I sincerely thank speakerplans for helping me to be poor, and deaf, and happy about it. <3




Posted By: cravings
Date Posted: 20 September 2016 at 7:48pm
good work!


Posted By: nickyburnell
Date Posted: 20 September 2016 at 7:56pm
ClapClapClapClap

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Posted By: Keen
Date Posted: 21 September 2016 at 10:25am
^^^^^


Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 21 September 2016 at 7:27pm
Some Croatia 2016 bits:










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Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 21 September 2016 at 7:32pm
And something else new (poo photo sorry!), TH212i and SM60F for an install, still need to spray the internal horn white as it looks much nicer with grille off:


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Posted By: vertx
Date Posted: 22 September 2016 at 8:26am
Originally posted by toastyghost toastyghost wrote:

Some Croatia 2016 bits:

Nice! Did Outlook + Dimensions 2014 and 2015, hopefully next year too. Neuron stages always sounded great, can't wait to go back!


Posted By: +/-3dB
Date Posted: 22 September 2016 at 7:33pm
Can you tell us a bit about the danley gear? Is as good sounding as F1 and Void for dance music?


Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 23 September 2016 at 12:57am
Honestly, it's different. I think we're so used to hearing systems where the ranges come from separate sources that when you hear it all come from one point it's a bit difficult to comprehend.

Also the J1 is scary loud up close, and you can kind of walk in and out of the parts of the paraline lens with some odd HF effects when you're within a few metres, so they work best at a certain distance from the crowd if you're going to be driving them even moderately hard.

Once you get over that initial confusion though, the clarity and depth is something else. The J1 really shone at Dimensions, Moritz Von Oswald was a particular highlight. Right to the back it was almost identical to the front, just a tiny bit quieter. The fact you get so much kick from the tops helps as well, it carries for miles and has a ton of impact. The J2 and J3 are a more complicated alignment, with the J2 focusing on massive quality at the expense of pure SPL. Given how impressed we'be been with the J1, I'm really excited to hear the rest of the range especially in lieu of most line arrays. I think they're fine tools for the job but this is definitely more pleasurable to mix on. You'll note that a majority of our shows are point source anyway because I do prefer to do that right when possible...

For smaller stuff, the synergy horns I've tried so far are great. That SM60F came out the box, I put a 50Hz HPF on it and played some music and frankly it sounded excellent with properly even coverage in the stated pattern and smooth decay outside of it too. No EQ, no manufacturer settings loaded, just raw box. You'll note that they also provide all their spec sheets as unprocessed response, which is very nice. Of course with presets they only get better.

Likewise the TH212, it sounds like a much bigger sub and has serious weight and warmth. The venue is a restaurant that has DJs on weekends so I think people will be surprised at the depth considering the sub won't be visible at all!

I hope to have some news to announce very soon on this whole thing, but this probably isn't the place for business type stuff, so keep an eye on our Facebook. I also hope to do some proper demo shows soon too, whilst it's a little bit quieter, and will of course let people know

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Posted By: +/-3dB
Date Posted: 23 September 2016 at 6:34am
I only heard their smaller stuff at a demo. Was impressed with the dynamicss and the clarity which stayed consistent a long way back.
The TH18 didn't have punch I'm used too, but I guess you get the kick from the mid/tops in their bigger boxes.
Don't like the orange color though. Gives them a DIY appearance. Looks like they are only good for trance music in a dark forrest.


Posted By: KingGwarn
Date Posted: 23 September 2016 at 5:20pm
Link up we did at Volks in Brighton the other night...a stack in each corner of the rear wall.

Ended up having to remove a scoop and mid from Kings Hi-Fi because it was blocking the fire exit by about 20cm....still large though!

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Westway Roots:

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Posted By: Teunos
Date Posted: 28 September 2016 at 6:45pm
Starting to look like something.
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The bms drivers oxidate very fast btw Shocked


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Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 28 September 2016 at 7:20pm
Where are you seeing that? I've got some here that have been used in various climates in the States and Europe and no oxidisation I can see

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Posted By: Teunos
Date Posted: 28 September 2016 at 7:23pm
The magnet assembly with what i assume to be a Zn plating.
They were shiny shiny when i bought them 2 years ago. 
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Posted By: doller
Date Posted: 29 September 2016 at 9:57am
Sweaty hands


Posted By: Zeno
Date Posted: 29 September 2016 at 9:48pm
I agree, the 4590 oxidate very fast from the outside but does not affect the performance. Teunos, do you have a picture of the whole construct with the two drivers? Would be very nice to seeSmile. Last week end I had the first time live music playing over the big horns and the 4590. I would say it sounded like always, listening to a massiv HiFi System.


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Posted By: Meat
Date Posted: 30 September 2016 at 9:22am
I have similar experiences with my BMS bass and mid-bass drivers. The magnet coating does seem to look crap quickly due to oxidation. They all work absolutely fine though and sound very nice. I was a bit disappointed when I first spotted it though, it looks very cheap on very expensive drivers.


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Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 30 September 2016 at 2:16pm


Odd. These ones are three years old and exposed to the elements really.

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Posted By: Marko
Date Posted: 30 September 2016 at 3:19pm
Are those upper mids wired out of phase?


Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 30 September 2016 at 5:13pm
Nope. Six 8 ohm drivers wired in a series parallel arrangement - three drivers paralleled each side then those batches of three joined together in series.

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Posted By: Teunos
Date Posted: 30 September 2016 at 6:06pm
Danley J1, very informative.
Im amazed that appearantly those 6x 6'' Emmy La6-CMBR keep up with 3 BMS coaxials.


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Posted By: fede
Date Posted: 30 September 2016 at 9:07pm
Narrow bandwidth, high efficiency


Posted By: Teunos
Date Posted: 30 September 2016 at 9:15pm
Well, not really. Physically they can never, ever, ever, did i already say ever, ever produce output near the levels that the other components of the system can provide.

I did the math, and the simulation in hornresp, which says on a good day, downhill, wind in the back, it will maybe do 135dB continuous. That is excluding power compression.
148dB continuous??? Thats not even a few dB off, but 13dB. 
Who knows the solution to the problem.


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Posted By: MarjanM
Date Posted: 30 September 2016 at 9:44pm
if you take a look at the J1 graph you will see that the box is only 100db efficient in the range those emis works. Spec are funny thing, you can pick one freq where the box can do 148 and just put it there. Technically you would be correct :-)

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Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 30 September 2016 at 11:04pm
Yet they unlike many many others do state 'band dependent' on the page, and the full unprocessed plot is in the product PDF. The mids do limit first, but they are doing more than 135dB I assure you. I've had my own calibrated mic out and run the individual bands.

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Posted By: MarjanM
Date Posted: 01 October 2016 at 12:52am
I have heard the Sh96HO in Frankfurt. Mids are having sex loud :-)

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Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 01 October 2016 at 1:55am
Whilst we are on the subject..



For 2000 people in the Netherlands... ruthless, frankly.

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Posted By: Teunos
Date Posted: 01 October 2016 at 5:51am
Thats a lot of sub for only 2k people.
Is that yours or RF shows?

On the 135dB, i admire your work kyle, i do. But i would like to see those measurements if youre okay with it and have them. Calculating from the parameters of the eminence driver in hornresp with a very good assumption i just dont see how they can go louder than that. Will post a sim tonight. Also the bandwidth im a bit toggled by. They have 0,2mm xmax and they go beyond that at 450hz at 150watt. The bms can reach down to there probably on such a big horn, but the 18" wont get up to there still sounding good. Whats the magic?
As a physicist, it just boggles me.

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Posted By: MarjanM
Date Posted: 01 October 2016 at 9:45am
Its a peak spl, so quadruple the input power in horn resp.

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Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 01 October 2016 at 10:18am
That's the guys at RF. We'd never get away with that here.

~400Hz is indeed the crossover point, don't ask me how but vocals and instruments sound great. I honestly thought I was making a mistake reading the TF from the processor when I was setting them up but everyone is amazed if I tell them that after they listen to it. And believe me it isn't much more than 135 but they seem not to struggle, again the loading is not standard on them at all if you look at the horn mouth exits.

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Posted By: bass*en*mass
Date Posted: 03 October 2016 at 12:30am





8x18"hybrid, 12x15"hybrid, 12 "Q" tops - 600ish cap. :)






Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 03 October 2016 at 3:24am


Deep Medi 10 last night Electric Brixton - 7 K20, 6 K3, 3 X4 - Incubus with Nexus XL centre and Tri Motion front fill, Air Vantage v2 + 218 mons :)

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Posted By: Teunos
Date Posted: 03 October 2016 at 6:05am
Love the incubus, can you give me a heads up when i can hear it in the netherlands kyle?

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Posted By: cravings
Date Posted: 03 October 2016 at 8:01am
wow are they on V2 of the air vantage already?


Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 03 October 2016 at 11:12am
Well not quite yet. New HF horn assembly in testing phase, we have prototypes.

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Posted By: lost eden
Date Posted: 03 October 2016 at 4:57pm
Ooft, I'm going to Electric for a gig next month, wish that was gonna have Incubus!


Posted By: MarjanM
Date Posted: 03 October 2016 at 5:05pm
Proper sub/top ratio :-)




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Posted By: mini-mad
Date Posted: 03 October 2016 at 5:56pm
Originally posted by MarjanM MarjanM wrote:

Proper sub/top ratio :-)



....needs more sub....



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Posted By: Teunos
Date Posted: 04 October 2016 at 10:25am
Originally posted by toastyghost toastyghost wrote:



Odd. These ones are three years old and exposed to the elements really.

Found the patent for the combiner.
https://www.google.nl/patents/US20120328140?dq=danley&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj8l4vB58DPAhUlDMAKHQWTB5cQ6AEIMjAD" rel="nofollow - https://www.google.nl/patents/US20120328140?dq=danley&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj8l4vB58DPAhUlDMAKHQWTB5cQ6AEIMjAD

Pretty interesting, but there are so many problems i have with that combiner i do not even know where to start.


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Posted By: Pasi
Date Posted: 10 October 2016 at 3:11pm


18 x A28
16 x A2

Decent PA for 2000 people and hardstyle music. DJ had A2 x 2 and A28 x 1 per side as monitor. Everyone loved it Smile


Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 10 October 2016 at 8:23pm
Was that before flying?

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Posted By: mk2_ginger_biscuit69
Date Posted: 10 October 2016 at 11:05pm
wheres the other 10x A2's?


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Posted By: Pasi
Date Posted: 11 October 2016 at 6:51am
Originally posted by toastyghost toastyghost wrote:

Was that before flying?


No, that's the height we left it for 2000 people LOL

Of course it is before flying. 2 hangs of 8, fly point height was 6m.

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Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 11 October 2016 at 9:12am
You never know - it is hard style!

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Posted By: bitSmasher
Date Posted: 11 October 2016 at 12:10pm
As shown is the right height for the MC to stand in front of

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Posted By: dylan-penguinmedia
Date Posted: 11 October 2016 at 12:22pm
Pasi, that vid made me want to rip my ears off ;)
Sure it was impressive in front of it, but the programme material leaves a lot to be desired ;)

A Dom job?

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Posted By: mk2_ginger_biscuit69
Date Posted: 11 October 2016 at 12:38pm
Originally posted by dylan-penguinmedia dylan-penguinmedia wrote:

Pasi, that vid made me want to rip my ears off ;)
Sure it was impressive in front of it, but the programme material leaves a lot to be desired ;)

A Dom job?


cool screens and lasers, but ouch, imagine 'engineering' that for hours sober!? Painful!! I found dubstep nights bad enough haha.




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Posted By: APW
Date Posted: 11 October 2016 at 12:56pm

LOL..

My 6 year old son has access to kid's software (on his schools website) that allows him to place drum, other percussion and synth sample sounds into a very basic sequencer..... What he comes up with sounds very similar.



Posted By: Mircea Bartic
Date Posted: 11 October 2016 at 2:12pm
I like the music , reminds me of my youth ;))


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Posted By: Pasi
Date Posted: 11 October 2016 at 6:17pm
Originally posted by dylan-penguinmedia dylan-penguinmedia wrote:

Pasi, that vid made me want to rip my ears off ;)
Sure it was impressive in front of it, but the programme material leaves a lot to be desired ;)

A Dom job?


Aura demo gig with a good team from here and Will & his team in France.

I know what you mean, i wanted so badly to use this rig on techno or trance stage. But no luck. As a revenge, i refused to baby sit this and spent most of my evening sleeping on TRS covers behind techno stage. That one had 8 x HD-MH and 20 x TRS-218. Didn't stop me from getting some good rest Big smile


Posted By: coolboarder
Date Posted: 12 October 2016 at 6:03pm
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Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 12 October 2016 at 7:26pm
Those 18sound horns get a lot of love. And for good reason!

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Posted By: doller
Date Posted: 14 October 2016 at 10:23am
Pasi sir, Wouldn't two fat stacks of Thunder Ridge have done better with that music.?



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