Hello good people.. FTH-12 plans please!?
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Topic: Hello good people.. FTH-12 plans please!?
Posted By: DemonKnight
Subject: Hello good people.. FTH-12 plans please!?
Date Posted: 16 October 2016 at 8:13am
Hello people... I am excited to stumble across your forum.. I would love to build a few of these. I have done much research and I was set on building the MTH-30 until I came across Tony Wilkes  Can anyone be so kind as to direct me to the plans? Thank you so much for your time, and have a great day...
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Posted By: cookie-dj
Date Posted: 16 October 2016 at 10:43am
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I'm sure member Bee will be able to build these for you, he owns a lot of the rights of TW designs ------------- You can't polish a turd! |
Posted By: mini-mad
Date Posted: 16 October 2016 at 1:07pm
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look uo the THAM12. its an almost perfect copy of the fth12... iv got one and its a nice little box. i also have 3x MTH30!! both good boxes and i use the PD sb30's in all of them! for 400w and in my bar they make one hell of a noise used in SINGLES! ------------- If it sounds like a gorilla is trying to escape, turn it down. |
Posted By: DemonKnight
Date Posted: 16 October 2016 at 4:11pm
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Hello and thank you for your quick response.... I am not looking for anyone to build one for me but I do appreciate the direction. I am not familiar with "bee" I am just looking for the FTH-12 plans as they were free, and available on Tony Wilkes site before he passed (so I am seeing in the posts he was a pretty great guy) so I really hope that I can still obtain a copy of it. It seems like people are coveting these plans for some reason, and the actual person who made them "Tony Wilkes" was more then happy to share them for free, so I hope we can carry his legacy on by being generous as he was and sharing as he intended.. I would love to see how these FTH-12'S stack up against the MH-30, and the THAM - 12'S (SIZE/SOUND ect) Thanks
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Posted By: patryk1305
Date Posted: 16 October 2016 at 5:23pm
| Bee is a forum member on here. I would talk to him as I know he can help you out. |
Posted By: DemonKnight
Date Posted: 16 October 2016 at 5:39pm
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Hello there I really appreciate the quick response, and alternative.. I am just starting to mobile DJ, and I am looking for "the best bang for the buck" so to say as far as size/sound/ mobility... This is why I chose the FTH-12. It seems like the best compact option, but I am looking into now the THAM-12 now. Your preferred speaker for the THAM-12 build seems to be hard to find in the US are there any alternatives that match up and are equally matched sound vs price? Thanks
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Posted By: DemonKnight
Date Posted: 16 October 2016 at 5:41pm
| Thank you kind sir, I will try to search for him this evening when I have more time.. |
Posted By: bee
Date Posted: 16 October 2016 at 6:06pm
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afternoon guys, happy to help and email you the plans. All I ask from you in return is a small donation to the British heart foundation in Tonys honour... or a heart foundation in your region/area country..... ------------- https://www.elements-audio.com |
Posted By: cravings
Date Posted: 16 October 2016 at 6:15pm
| it's not that people are coveting the plans as such, i think people are just looking out for how tony wanted stuff. he did give the plans to people who asked, but i don't think he published them, because he didn't want people building them for money. so plans were handled on a case by case basis by tony.. and i think that's probably what Bee (ben) looks after now. |
Posted By: bee
Date Posted: 17 October 2016 at 12:32am
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@cravings correct, most plans were given away by tony, when the recommended driver was purchased from him. A lot of the plans I have were prototype stuff and never released, some are non free plans, the designs he did give away I still do hand out, but only after a donation is made. I think this is a fair request. designs like the Q18fp were a collaboration between myself and Tony and will never be given away as these had a lot of time in research and development, and are apart of my core range of cabs I sell. the q/fp range has been extended with 12" versions 15" and 21" versions. These were just ideas when Tony was with us, and very much left on the shelf after his passing. But with a bit of pushing from a good friend and a good friend of Tonys, Ive been re looking in to the q/fp range and I'm in advanced r&d stage on a few new models. ------------- https://www.elements-audio.com |
Posted By: DemonKnight
Date Posted: 17 October 2016 at 4:17am
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Hello kind sir, I just made a donation to the British heart foundation in Tony"s honor, (and as well for 2 people in my family who have passed from heart disease). if i could paste the screen shot conformation on here I would. I can't seem to figure out how to upload images. I commend you on supporting this cause in his name, and I think he would greatly appreciate what you are doing to support the cause. I salute you good sir! |
Posted By: APW
Date Posted: 17 October 2016 at 11:08am
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DemonKnight: You need at least 10 posts then you can talk to bee via the PM system. As mini-mad has said, the FTH-12 and the Tham-12 are very similar, they were designed independently at around the same time and Tony (FTH-12) and Anders (Tham-12) spoke freely on the FTH-12 and Tham-12 threads about the two designs being almost Identical despite being developed separately. I have 4 Tham-12s loaded with the Beyma 12LX60V2 drivers and for their size they are very impressive indeed, they often surprise people as they are very capable.... .... Friday before Last I was DJing alongside a Ska band in a venue that is licenced for about 150-200 people, when setting up I asked the band if they would like to play via my sound system, they looked down at the 4 little thams and politly declined, however as soon as I sound checked they were asking what the hell they were and said they would have no problems playing via my system. At the end of the night they asked where they could 'Buy' some as they said the thams are so much better than the much larger 15's they currently use and they couldn't believe the sound from such small boxes. Obviously if you need a system that can do sub 40hz then they aren't for you. |
Posted By: bee
Date Posted: 17 October 2016 at 7:51pm
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@demonKnight pm me on facebook (seach bar) elements audio or email me @ ben dot wells at elements-audio dot com.... ill email over the plan to you... thank you for the donation. ------------- https://www.elements-audio.com |
Posted By: bee
Date Posted: 18 October 2016 at 10:19am
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plan sent, thank you for the donation. Please feel free to post pics of your build, Forum members love a bit of speaker porn... ------------- https://www.elements-audio.com |
Posted By: DemonKnight
Date Posted: 19 October 2016 at 9:26pm
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Sorry for the late response here, but I have been collaborating with Mr. Bee through email a bit as I had a few more questions for the build, and I have been swamped with work. Thank you very much Mr Bee, and thank you to those of you who have taken the time to reply and share your knowledge as well! Much appreciated!
(Mr APW) I would love to see a pic or video of your last event with your 4 THAMS it does sound very impressive indeed! When I came across this website in search of building my own enclosures I had just thought that you guys were fellow audio enthusiasts like myself who share a passion for great sound, and music.. I had no idea the extent of knowledge, and experience some of you have when it comes to understanding all that goes into building an enclosure to a speakers specifications.. It is quite an impressive challenge it seems from what I have been reading. Through Mr Bee, and I's collaboration I did have the opportunity to check out his website ( Elements Audio ) and Facebook page. His work, and craftsmanship is truly second to none. You can definitely see that he has a deep passion for what he does and it reflects in his work, and builds.. It means a lot when people like yourselves, and Mr Bee can take time from your busy schedules and go out of your way to help a complete stranger. For that I salute you!  I am patiently awaiting a few questions on Tony's FTH-12 plans from Mr. Bee, and in the process of getting my materials together, as certain things are not readily available in the states, (certain drivers, PLY wood sizes, and materials ect).. that I may need to find equivalent substitutions for. I know this all plays an important role in the outcome of the build, so I want to be certain that all is in order before I begin. I will be glad to share my build pics and progress, and I am sure I will have more questions as I go.. I do hope my pictures are "speaker porn worthy" Hah! (love the reference BTW) Thank you all again, and I look forward to any and all feedback, and responses... Have a great day... |
Posted By: DemonKnight
Date Posted: 21 October 2016 at 2:31am
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(going to post this in another section as well as to build up my 10 posts so I can post build pics) Hi guys.. Having some trouble finding the answers to a few questions.... First I am torn between building Tony Wilkes FTH-12 and the THAM-12 for a few reasons that I am trying to clear up. 1ST.. I am making sure that this will be the proper build for my needs.. I DJ and I want to be able to travel with these subs in my car so I would like to stay with one of the two 12" enclosure builds. I also play guitar in a band and we tune low. To a low C on some songs and others drop D, so my concerns are that if I wanted to mic up will these be capable of hitting the lows from the bass guitar.>? Secondly.. The reccomended driver for FTH 12 IS THE "FaitalPRO 12HP1020 12" Neodymium Professional Woofer 8 Ohm" and I really don't want to shell out $349 dollars a piece on these right now. Tony origionally started the build with the "Celestion FTR12-4080HDX 12" Professional Cast Frame Speaker 1000W" before a falling out with Celestion, and then changed the build to adjust accordingly for the FaitalPro. (From what I have gathered he has changed the size a bit to compensate as well for this driver) Now I am very curious..... Everyone is saying that both the FTH 12 and the THAM 12 are very similar but the FTH 12 from what I have read can hit lower frequencies... This is what is drawing me to this build over the THAM 12. Also I want to help keep Tony's memory alive as I am sure everyone will be asking about these little subs, and I would like to pay it back to him as well as Mr BEE for his help.. Also curious about this... Seeing as there are many trials with different speakers for the THAM 12, and only 2 that I have found for the FTH-12.. Now... Being that they are so similar will the THAM 12 speaker reccomendations work equally as well in the FTH12? I am unsure how precise these speakers have to be to fully utilize these enclousures so forgive me if I seem like I am over complicating myself here... I just want to do this once and do it right. This is what is mainly holding me back on the build right now.. Some of the options for suggested woofers are just not available in the states.. Heres what I have to work with here ... Tony's Origional build speaker Celestion FTR12-4080HDX 12" Professional Cast Frame Speaker 1000W (THIS is available for $199) @ parts express Product Specifications Nominal Diameter12"Power Handling (RMS)1,000 Watts Power Handling (max)2000 WattsImpedance8 ohms Frequency Response47 to 3,000 HzSensitivity93 dB 2.83V/1m Voice Coil Diameter4"Magnet Weight110 oz. Thiele-Small Parameters Resonant Frequency (Fs)61 HzDC Resistance (Re)6.05 ohms Voice Coil Inductance (Le)1.92 mHMechanical Q (Qms)2.23 Electromagnetic Q (Qes)0.45Total Q (Qts)0.37 Compliance Equivalent Volume (Vas)0.88 ft.³Mechanical Compliance of Suspension (Cms)0.06 mm/N BL Product (BL)23.81 TmDiaphragm Mass Inc. Airload (Mms)3.8g Moving Mass Of Diaphragm (Mmd)3.59Maximum Linear Excursion (Xmax)8 mm ............................................................................................................................................................................... His last build was created for the "FaitalPRO 12HP1020 12" Neodymium Professional Woofer 8 Ohm" ($349 available @ parts express) Product Specifications Nominal Diameter12"Power Handling (RMS)700 Watts Power Handling (max)1400 WattsImpedance8 ohms Frequency Response55 to 3,150 HzSensitivity97 dB 1W/1m Voice Coil Diameter4" Thiele-Small Parameters Resonant Frequency (Fs)55 HzDC Resistance (Re)5.5 ohms Voice Coil Inductance (Le)1.1 mHMechanical Q (Qms)9.4 Electromagnetic Q (Qes)0.28Total Q (Qts)0.27 Compliance Equivalent Volume (Vas)1.19 ft.³Mechanical Compliance of Suspension (Cms)0.09 mm/N BL Product (BL)24.3 TmDiaphragm Mass Inc. Airload (Mms)86g Moving Mass Of Diaphragm (Mmd)79.3Maximum Linear Excursion (Xmax)9 mm Surface Area of Cone (Sd)494 cm² .................................................................................................................................................................... Here are the speakers that are readily available to me in the states that are suggested for the THAM 12 plans.. I will be powering 2 of these with a Crown CE4000 power amp The Crown CE4000 Power Amp delivers 1,400W per channel @ 2 ohms, 1,200W @ 4 ohms, and 600W @ 8 ohms, 2,800W @ 4 ohms bridgd mono, 2,400W @ 8 ohms. So I would like to utilize this amps power as well as possible, as well as not fry it... Would it be best to run dual 4ohm speakers @ a 2ohm load? I am reading that this particular amp runs very cool at a stable 2ohm load. THAM 12 SPEAKER RECCOMENDATIONS..... ................................................................................................................................................................................. "Eminence Kappalite 3012LF-4 High Power Neo 12" Subwoofer 4 Ohm" ($184.99 parts express) Product Specifications Nominal Diameter12" Power Handling (RMS)550 Watts Power Handling (max)1100 WattsImpedance4 ohms Frequency Response41 to 2,000 HzSensitivity92.9 dB 1W/1m Voice Coil Diameter3" Thiele-Small Parameters Resonant Frequency (Fs)36 HzDC Resistance (Re)3.89 ohms Voice Coil Inductance (Le)0.66 mHMechanical Q (Qms)8.38 Electromagnetic Q (Qes)0.32Total Q (Qts)0.31 Compliance Equivalent Volume (Vas)3.79 ft.³Mechanical Compliance of Suspension (Cms)0.26 mm/N BL Product (BL)14.27 TmDiaphragm Mass Inc. Airload (Mms)72g Maximum Linear Excursion (Xmax)9.1 mmSurface Area of Cone (Sd)545.4 cm² ................................................................................................................................................................................. "Eminence Definimax 4012ULF-8 12" Cast Frame Driver" (219.99 available @ parts express) Product Specifications Nominal Diameter12"Power Handling (RMS)1,200 Watts Power Handling (max)2400 WattsImpedance8 ohms Frequency Response37 to 200 HzSensitivity90.7 dB 1W/1m Voice Coil Diameter4"Magnet Weight109 oz. Thiele-Small Parameters Resonant Frequency (Fs)40 HzDC Resistance (Re)6.2 ohms Voice Coil Inductance (Le)4.32 mHMechanical Q (Qms)12.13 Electromagnetic Q (Qes)0.32Total Q (Qts)0.31 Compliance Equivalent Volume (Vas)1.46 ft.³Mechanical Compliance of Suspension (Cms)0.1 mm/N BL Product (BL)27.38 TmDiaphragm Mass Inc. Airload (Mms)153g Maximum Linear Excursion (Xmax)6.7 mm .................................................................................................................................................................................. "B&C 12PS100 12" Woofer" ($211.61 available @ parts express) Product Specifications Nominal Diameter12"Power Handling (RMS)700 Watts Power Handling (max)1400 WattsImpedance8 ohms Frequency Response45 to 1,000 HzSensitivity93 dB 1W/1m Voice Coil Diameter4" Thiele-Small Parameters Resonant Frequency (Fs)44 HzDC Resistance (Re)5.3 ohms Voice Coil Inductance (Le)2 mHMechanical Q (Qms)3.9 Electromagnetic Q (Qes)0.29Total Q (Qts)0.27 Compliance Equivalent Volume (Vas)1.6 ft.³BL Product (BL)22.5 Tm Diaphragm Mass Inc. Airload (Mms)106gMaximum Linear Excursion (Xmax)8 mm Surface Area of Cone (Sd)531 cm² Materials of Construction Cone MaterialPaperSurround MaterialCloth Voice Coil Wire MaterialCopperVoice Coil FormerFiberglass Magnet MaterialFerrite ................................................................................................................................................................................... "B&C 12NW76 12" Neodymium Woofer" ($238.25 available @ parts express) Product Specifications Nominal Diameter12"Power Handling (RMS)500 Watts Power Handling (max)1000 WattsImpedance8 ohms Frequency Response40 to 2,000 HzSensitivity99 dB 1W/1m Voice Coil Diameter3" Thiele-Small Parameters Resonant Frequency (Fs)40 HzDC Resistance (Re)5.3 ohms Voice Coil Inductance (Le)1.25 mHMechanical Q (Qms)3.7 Electromagnetic Q (Qes)0.17Total Q (Qts)0.16 Compliance Equivalent Volume (Vas)2.7 ft.³BL Product (BL)25.5 Tm Diaphragm Mass Inc. Airload (Mms)77gMaximum Linear Excursion (Xmax)8 mm Surface Area of Cone (Sd)522 cm² .......................................................................................................................................................................... B&C 12BG100 12" Neodymium Subwoofer" (299.90 available @ parts express) Product Specifications Nominal Diameter12"Power Handling (RMS)1,000 Watts Power Handling (max)2000 WattsImpedance8 ohms Frequency Response40 to 1,000 HzSensitivity93 dB 1W/1m Voice Coil Diameter4" Thiele-Small Parameters Resonant Frequency (Fs)39 HzDC Resistance (Re)5.1 ohms Voice Coil Inductance (Le)1.6 mHMechanical Q (Qms)6.8 Electromagnetic Q (Qes)0.35Total Q (Qts)0.33 Compliance Equivalent Volume (Vas)1.45 ft.³BL Product (BL)23 Tm Diaphragm Mass Inc. Airload (Mms)152gMaximum Linear Excursion (Xmax)10.5 mm Surface Area of Cone (Sd)522 cm² .................................................................................................................................................................... FaitalPRO 12FH500 12" Neodymium Professional Woofer 4 Ohm" ($262 available @ parts express) Product Specifications Nominal Diameter12"Power Handling (RMS)500 Watts Power Handling (max)1000 WattsImpedance4 ohms Frequency Response45 to 4,000 HzSensitivity97 dB 1W/1m Voice Coil Diameter3" Thiele-Small Parameters Resonant Frequency (Fs)45 HzDC Resistance (Re)3.3 ohms Voice Coil Inductance (Le)0.63 mHMechanical Q (Qms)9.09 Electromagnetic Q (Qes)0.23Total Q (Qts)0.23 Compliance Equivalent Volume (Vas)2.44 ft.³Mechanical Compliance of Suspension (Cms)0.2 mm/N BL Product (BL)15.5 TmDiaphragm Mass Inc. Airload (Mms)60.9g Moving Mass Of Diaphragm (Mmd)54.7Maximum Linear Excursion (Xmax)7.25 mm Surface Area of Cone (Sd)487 cm² ........................................................................................................................................................... FaitalPRO 12FH510 12" Professional Woofer 8 Ohm" ($220 availavle @ parts express) Product Specifications Nominal Diameter12"Power Handling (RMS)500 Watts Power Handling (max)1000 WattsImpedance8 ohms Frequency Response45 to 3,150 HzSensitivity98 dB 1W/1m Voice Coil Diameter3" Thiele-Small Parameters Resonant Frequency (Fs)45 HzDC Resistance (Re)5.1 ohms Voice Coil Inductance (Le)0.9 mHMechanical Q (Qms)10.9 Electromagnetic Q (Qes)0.25Total Q (Qts)0.24 Compliance Equivalent Volume (Vas)2.46 ft.³Mechanical Compliance of Suspension (Cms)0.2 mm/N BL Product (BL)18.9 TmDiaphragm Mass Inc. Airload (Mms)61g Moving Mass Of Diaphragm (Mmd)54.9Maximum Linear Excursion (Xmax)7.5 mm Surface Area of Cone (Sd)489 cm² ......................................................................................................................................................................... RCF LF12G301 12" Woofer Speaker" ($258 available a@ parts express) Product Specifications Nominal Diameter12"Power Handling (RMS)450 Watts Power Handling (max)900 WattsImpedance8 ohms Frequency Response40 to 2,000 HzSensitivity97 dB 2.83V/1m Voice Coil Diameter3" Thiele-Small Parameters Resonant Frequency (Fs)43 HzDC Resistance (Re)5.8 ohms Voice Coil Inductance (Le)2 mHMechanical Q (Qms)4.6 Electromagnetic Q (Qes)0.23Total Q (Qts)0.22 Compliance Equivalent Volume (Vas)3.43 ft.³BL Product (BL)19 Tm Diaphragm Mass Inc. Airload (Mms)56gMaximum Linear Excursion (Xmax)6.8 mm Surface Area of Cone (Sd)530 cm² Materials of Construction Cone MaterialPaperSurround MaterialCloth Voice Coil Wire MaterialCopperVoice Coil FormerFiberglass Magnet MaterialFerrite ...................................................................................................................................................................... Please let me know what you guys think on any of these questions, and I am open to your suggestions. Thank you in advance and have a great day/morning/evening.........Where every you are at... ;) Sorry for swamping you guys with the questions... Trying my best to learn this here.. much more involved with these builds then I thought there would be....
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Posted By: DemonKnight
Date Posted: 21 October 2016 at 2:40am
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Forgot to add... If a box is tuned to 45hz or 50hz will putting a speaker in it forsay an " Eminence Kappalite 3012LF-4 High Power Neo 12" Subwoofer 4 Ohm low frequency driver" "Frequency Response 41 to 2,000 HzSensitivity92.9 dB 1W/1m Drop the over all tuning or does the box tuning keep the frequency stable? Inquiring minds want to know.....
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Posted By: bee
Date Posted: 21 October 2016 at 11:32am
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Thank you, glad I can be of help. Good luck with the build, cant wait to see some pics of this project. Feel free to ask away for any help advice. ------------- https://www.elements-audio.com |