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Lab Gruppen 10000Q with PD1850's

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Topic: Lab Gruppen 10000Q with PD1850's
Posted By: 32true
Subject: Lab Gruppen 10000Q with PD1850's
Date Posted: 08 November 2016 at 9:56am
Just wanted to double check before I make the purchase.
I have 2 PD1850's at the moment, looking to expand to 4 quite soon.
The FP10000Q runs 1350W @ 8 Ohms.
Can I run the 2 drivers from 2 channels initially then run 4 from 4 channels when I need to expand?
The PD's are rated at 800W A.E.S but I've heard they can easily handle way more??



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Posted By: hi grade
Date Posted: 11 November 2016 at 8:23am
Depending on application and enclosure but the 1850 can do lots more with a different choice of amp !


Posted By: 32true
Date Posted: 11 November 2016 at 9:18am
The drivers will be loaded in hog scoops, can you give a recommendation for a more suitable amp?


Posted By: hi grade
Date Posted: 11 November 2016 at 9:48am
Lab fp 13000 lab fp14000 mc 2 e90 powersoft k10 if your dead stuck on lightweight and play different types on music


If your on a budget play mostly sub heavy music only play out now and again then crest 9001 crest ca18 crown vz 5000 void infinite 8 sae pcm 18 and qsc pl9 jts ua6 lab gruppen copy

All spank 1850s


Posted By: hi grade
Date Posted: 11 November 2016 at 9:52am
Lab 10000q will do a job and sound nice and clean but you will run out of headroom


Posted By: paulus
Date Posted: 11 November 2016 at 10:31am
Depending on application and enclosure but the 1850 can do lots more with a different choice of amp !............massive plus 1..... and different type of box tbh 

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Posted By: luton_soundman
Date Posted: 11 November 2016 at 11:27am
Hogs arent a good scoop. And agree that amp is weak. My friends are getting good results with the SAE. But if you're like me then torroidal power is what you want. Ca18, 9001, VZ5000, vz5002 etc. Just so happens i have some vz5000 & 5002 for sale very soon :)

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Posted By: dylan-penguinmedia
Date Posted: 11 November 2016 at 12:02pm
For that application, I'd go for a pair of amps = 2 power supplies to provide the juice, unless you're particularly short of rack space.


Posted By: 32true
Date Posted: 11 November 2016 at 12:08pm
Thanks for the advice everyone. Going for hogs because I want the versatility to play reggae but also hard dance music, not as weak as a super scooper but not as destructive as a 1850 horn. 2 amps sounds like a good idea, not sure I can afford to k10 budget is £500-£1500 haha. How many watts should I aim to give each driver then? 1500?


Posted By: hi grade
Date Posted: 11 November 2016 at 12:17pm
For your budget and applications would crown vs5000 sae pcm or pas 14000 lab based amp or void infinite 8


Posted By: hi grade
Date Posted: 11 November 2016 at 12:20pm
£1500 is a load of money this close to Xmas try your luck in wanted section mater of fact bring 1500 to my lock up and you can have a huge choice of my amps


Posted By: matty w
Date Posted: 11 November 2016 at 1:00pm
Have used the real 10,000 q quite a lot, powering 4 twin 18" reflex bins loaded with b&c tbx100 drivers !
I run 3x lab 10,000 q amps for the whole rig and share the bass cabs out between them , so one amp sees two bass cabs and the other two amps see a bass cab each !

The amp that has two bass cabs clips earlier than the other two !
Tells me the power supply hasn't got the minerals for proper sub !

Don't get me wrong still sounds sweet but compared to when I run the same rig off of the big boy 2ch lab 13,000 is it ? On sub , then the 10,000 q's on tops , it clearly doesn't get the 40hz and below happening the same !

Guess you would be fine if your bins high pass at 45hz ... Depends what your running !!

My 2c


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Posted By: paulus
Date Posted: 11 November 2016 at 2:32pm
try a sae 1450(transformer model) , can get 2 brand new for your budjet, if you want a scoop,build the emni design,will leave a hog and super pooper standing 1850 loaded 

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Posted By: 32true
Date Posted: 13 November 2016 at 12:38pm
Sae 1450 looks like a really good amp for the price. Would it be a good idea to use just the 1 amp and run the 4 hogs in 2 pairs parallel. At 4 Ohms it can give 2400W per channel so 1200W per driver. 



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