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Topic: how to not trow them away...
Posted By: _Natty_
Subject: how to not trow them away...
Date Posted: 09 January 2017 at 10:13am
please do not kidding me too much:
 i know that i was "stolen"  by a "friend", but please give me an advice about these. 
the big friend just send me this things as christmas gift DeadDeadDeadDeadDeadDeadDeadDeadDead
 I've at least 10 or 12 of these modules, nothing write upon it apart the xxxl's logo they should works, but i cant quote how much power etc. 
if i throw it away i've to spent a likkle bit in taxes transport etc.

all are brand new.








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Posted By: bassdesigner
Date Posted: 09 January 2017 at 11:10am
Originally posted by _Natty_ _Natty_ wrote:

please do not kidding me too much:
 i know that i was "stolen"  by a "friend", but please give me an advice about these. 
the big friend just send me this things as christmas gift DeadDeadDeadDeadDeadDeadDeadDeadDead
 I've at least 10 or 12 of these modules, nothing write upon it apart the xxxl's logo they should works, but i cant quote how much power etc. 
if i throw it away i've to spent a likkle bit in taxes transport etc.

all are brand new.






In English?


Posted By: Pinyorouk
Date Posted: 09 January 2017 at 11:28am
Originally posted by bassdesigner bassdesigner wrote:

Originally posted by _Natty_ _Natty_ wrote:

please do not kidding me too much:
 i know that i was "stolen"  by a "friend", but please give me an advice about these. 
the big friend just send me this things as christmas gift DeadDeadDeadDeadDeadDeadDeadDeadDead
 I've at least 10 or 12 of these modules, nothing write upon it apart the xxxl's logo they should works, but i cant quote how much power etc. 
if i throw it away i've to spent a likkle bit in taxes transport etc.

all are brand new.








In English?


These were given to me as a Christmas present by a friend. Please supply info like power rating, manufacturer and any other data......


Posted By: _Natty_
Date Posted: 09 January 2017 at 11:35am
apologize my crappy eng... yes as Pinyorouk wrote:   
These were given to me as a Christmas present by a friend. 

But more than give me infos that i think nobody know, i'd like a tip about if its a wasting of time convert these "active" modules as power amps in a box or something like that.


Posted By: cravings
Date Posted: 09 January 2017 at 12:52pm
no idea who made them etc. how many have you? looks like you have at least one mono sub module and 2 for tops. why not ask your friend what speakers they came out of? and why.


Posted By: Earplug
Date Posted: 09 January 2017 at 1:49pm
It looks like a plate amp from a sub (Satellite Outs). I just had a look at the website but couldn´t find anything similar on there. They only seem to have one sub and the amp on that is different.

Maybe post some photos of the other side, ie the power module and someone can have a guess.


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Posted By: toastyghost
Date Posted: 09 January 2017 at 3:29pm
Why don't you email the manufacturer, the website is up.


Posted By: _Natty_
Date Posted: 09 January 2017 at 4:26pm
manufacturer is closed years ago. 
site is running but looks so old... the friend that give you rubbish isnt such big friend :)
he dont know anything apart that are brand new... 

i got something like 8 of big modulese and 4 of the small one.  
some more simple question:
 - how can i measure power out? i know that is almost impossible without expensive gear.... 
-if they have a proper output can i add a stage output with speakon etc and rack them?


Posted By: APW
Date Posted: 09 January 2017 at 4:58pm
If you read the 'Company' tab on ' http://www.xxlinside.com" rel="nofollow - www.xxlinside.com ' you will see that they are owned by 'Mogar Music S.p.A' and they are still up and running; the website was last updated on Jan 1st... give them an email and maybe they can help you.

http://www.mogarmusic.it/" rel="nofollow - www.mogarmusic.it/


Posted By: Earplug
Date Posted: 09 January 2017 at 6:08pm
"- how can i measure power out? i know that is almost impossible without expensive gear.... "

You can get a 'ballpark' figure with an oscilloscope, multimeter, signal generator and dummy load - or even a 'non-dummy' load, ie a speaker.

Test the sub plates at 80/90Hz and the others at the 'standard' 1000Hz.

Monitor the voltage on the output with the multimeter (AC voltage range) and the oscilloscope. Note the voltage just before clip.

Then Power = (Voltage)² / Resistance.     EDIT: That´s (Voltage) squared.

Simple.







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Earplugs Are For Wimps!


Posted By: Pinyorouk
Date Posted: 09 January 2017 at 7:56pm
Originally posted by Earplug Earplug wrote:

"- how can i measure power out? i know that is almost impossible without expensive gear.... "

You can get a 'ballpark' figure with an oscilloscope, multimeter, signal generator and dummy load - or even a 'non-dummy' load, ie a speaker.

Test the sub plates at 80/90Hz and the others at the 'standard' 1000Hz.

Monitor the voltage on the output with the multimeter (AC voltage range) and the oscilloscope. Note the voltage just before clip.

Then Power = (Voltage)² / Resistance.     EDIT: That´s (Voltage) squared.
J
Simple.








Should he not be using a true RMS meter?


Posted By: Earplug
Date Posted: 10 January 2017 at 10:50am
True RMS meters are only really needed if measuring non-sinusoidal, or distorted waveforms. A 'normal' meter will be perfectly accurate for a pure, or near pure sinusoid.

Here:

http://en-us.fluke.com/training/training-library/measurements/electricity/what-is-true-rms.html" rel="nofollow - http://en-us.fluke.com/training/training-library/measurements/electricity/what-is-true-rms.html




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Posted By: _Natty_
Date Posted: 13 January 2017 at 10:56am
no news from the old and the new site's mail... 


Posted By: jbl_man
Date Posted: 13 January 2017 at 11:55am
Looking closely at the writing,its says mains power,230v, 200 watts max....so going on that as a power comsumption figure,around 100w per channel would seem about right? If you could take the lid off one,so we could see the size of the power supply inside,that would help too....looks to be a small Toridial transformer in there? (white,on the right hand side?)


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