Cerwin Vega B36
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Topic: Cerwin Vega B36
Posted By: d-link
Subject: Cerwin Vega B36
Date Posted: 01 May 2007 at 1:34am
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hey guys, just wondering how wide the cerwin vega b36 is... found a couple of plans... suggesting it is front facing 24" wide and 36" tall is this correct ?
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Posted By: Tony Wilkes
Date Posted: 01 May 2007 at 10:07am
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Just scale it using one of the known dimensions as a ref. Tony |
Posted By: COWFOOT
Date Posted: 01 May 2007 at 1:24pm
| Looks like the B36 would make a good kickbin.What's the frequency response like? |
Posted By: d-link
Date Posted: 01 May 2007 at 1:34pm
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Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 01 May 2007 at 3:03pm
The SP council have decided it's naughty using 18" loaded cabs as kick bins. I hear the Vega SL-36/AB36(afterburner) are the only ones worth building, but you only get down to 30hz with 8, OR, 4 corner loaded or something. Anyone have/seen decent plans of these? http://srforums.prosoundweb.com/index.php/m/3101/0
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http://srforums.prosoundweb.com/index.php/u/1565/0/ - Mr.Nightro Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 01 May 2007 at 4:17pm
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Vega SL36 plan.  EDIT:Just realised this is also on Staiper's msn site. Anyone made it yet ? ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Posted By: d-link
Date Posted: 01 May 2007 at 8:15pm
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right well i've knocked one up today and as u can see... sexy momma still gotta do the braces, screw and glue to bring the joins together... as for that all done http://imageshack.us">  http://imageshack.us">  |
Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 01 May 2007 at 8:29pm
Which one have you built mate ? Also, do yourself a favour, brace the sh$t out of it, and deliberately make it heavy, with some double bracing. Which driver have you got to test it with? ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Posted By: d-link
Date Posted: 01 May 2007 at 9:27pm
| JE-36B, shame it's the junior, but seeing as this was just a test build, i'm more than happy to build a few of the afterburners... |
Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 01 May 2007 at 9:57pm
OK. Don't over do it on the junior then...  Just remember junior doesn't perform anywhere near full size. Have'nt seen any plans for Afterburner (AB36), but "think" its really just SL36/B36 with Alu front cover as heatsink, and better driver. Lot's of people sl*g off CV 36 lines, cos they haven't heard it with decent driver, setup or placement. But CV did produce a lot of low build quality cabs, and the junior is least performing. However Afterburner is accepted as the best 36, and people say their home builds with extra bracing, sound dampening and decent suitable drivers blast original cabs out the park. ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Posted By: heinrich
Date Posted: 02 May 2007 at 4:38am
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with a few mathematics.......... try to look at this http://img472.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cerwinvegaab36sm1.jpg although needs to be corrected yet............. I hope some one else have correct plans for this includung throat dimensions.......... ------------- .....power is nothing without control.... |
Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 02 May 2007 at 9:24am
This is basically the same cab as the sl36 plans (posted earlier in this thread), except the front chamber is metal and has 2 edges, not 1. So if someone edits the sl36 plan, t plan and adds the brace missing from top of chamber, and alu cover dimensions, we have the AB-36 plans. When that is done, I'm half tempted to scale up horn section (not chamber or throat) detail by 1.333, to get 9ft horn instead of standard 6ft, which would mean flat to 30hz, not 50hz.  ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Posted By: Mark James
Date Posted: 02 May 2007 at 10:09am
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flat down to 30hz???
imo the best thing to do would be to use the vague plans available, and the age old horn responce doo dah, select an apropriate driver and "invent" the missing dimensions, ie redisign so it fits your aplication,
but to be honest all ive done is reworded your last sentence.......
you may just end up with a realy good cab though.... and its not technicaly a copy, youve just taken alot of inspiration and done a bit of work yourself...... ------------- insert silly sentence here |
Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 02 May 2007 at 11:06am
Well, we now actually have all info required to fabricate an AB36. Have read many places 1850 loaded original AB36 will demolish 2x genuine AB36 no problem. So after I have a cloned AB36 with suitable driver (1850 expensive and hard to get hold of), I'll take it from there. For me the hardest part is translating hornresp figures to drawing's, not using hornresp or identifying good drivers. Have spent too much time recently doing exactly this. ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Posted By: Mark James
Date Posted: 02 May 2007 at 6:11pm
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yeah me too actualy........ hmmmmm if you think it would work then give it a whirl........ 30hz is a rather amusing thing at higher spl......... ------------- insert silly sentence here |
Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 02 May 2007 at 7:43pm
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Expanded official drawing of AB36 http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/2624/ab36rq3.jpg Needs measurements detail from http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0SQAsD2IWZz%21OhXV7%21SEhLzaa7o856Z*RGRux9ejvJwxLZpzWj8M4UVe8Yqy7ldg5m9%212u%215aAtNIxcAdmtF06GRUmXCEkrPcWL%21rGkuWNSioArrr%21w5lnQ/l36.gif?dc=4675481959975824071 - http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0SQAsD2IWZz!OhXV7!SEhLzaa7o856Z*RGRux9ejvJwxLZpzWj8M4UVe8Yqy7ldg5m9!2u!5aAtNIxcAdmtF06GRUmXCEkrPcWL!rGkuWNSioArrr!w5lnQ/l36.gif?dc=4675481959975824071 and front chamber measurements from here http://img472.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cerwinvegaab36sm1.jpg I have'nt got decent graphic s/w on this PC to do the job, can someone else do this and put it up? Regards. ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Posted By: DJ Coupé
Date Posted: 02 May 2007 at 8:48pm
I have sl36 bins they are great. They seem to produce alot of bass  I run them from 30 - 80 some times 30 - 100 |
Posted By: heinrich
Date Posted: 03 May 2007 at 1:59am
 actually I was planning to load this with SD18 p.audio but i think I will have problems fitting it inside since SD18's are deeper and larger in magnet size... ------------- .....power is nothing without control.... |
Posted By: levyte357
Date Posted: 03 May 2007 at 2:54am
Without even modelling this in hornresp, I cant tell the SD18 with 5mm Xmax aint it dawg. This baby looks like it has fairly large chamber, which dictates something like PD1850/V18-1000, OR 18LW1400/RCFL18P300/PD186/18TBX100[. Just found the following post which should help model SL36 and identify suitable drivers "properly". WARNING:The below post and horn measurements are also for the JE36 (Junior), which is only 24" (62.2 cm) Deep; NOT the "Mighty" SL36. http://www.speakerplans.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1314&KW=vega&PN=3 - http://www.speakerplans.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1314&KW=vega&PN=3 ------------- "Who am I? I'm the guy who does his job.. You must be the other guy". |
Posted By: heinrich
Date Posted: 05 May 2007 at 3:33am
 
well SD18 and C18 are the most available and reliable drivers that can be found here at home.....
 I hope i could post some pictures of some crap type of speakers soon...
well they are marked 1000watt doubled magnet ones but when powered
with continues 800watt or so for some 4 hour or more , voice coils
deforms and burnt....... ------------- .....power is nothing without control.... |
Posted By: aperrado
Date Posted: 10 January 2008 at 7:02pm
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hi i need info about cerwin vega eartquake b36 inc.plans measures very important inside measures and details any help will be appreciated i saw some decent pics but inside details is hard to find ------------- Im hard to learn but still asking |
Posted By: aperrado
Date Posted: 10 January 2008 at 7:18pm
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can u post more pics about this work? it look good, where u get plans or something to do it ? i want try to make one ------------- Im hard to learn but still asking |
Posted By: aperrado
Date Posted: 10 January 2008 at 7:22pm
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[QUOTE=d-link]right well i've knocked one up today and as u can see... sexy momma still gotta do the braces, screw and glue to bring the joins together... as for that all done can u put a complete pics of u work it look good where do u get plans? ------------- Im hard to learn but still asking |
Posted By: aperrado
Date Posted: 11 January 2008 at 3:31am
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do u still in this forum i ask it bcs i need help on info about this sub u know pics,tools,dimensions,tricks evrtingh ------------- Im hard to learn but still asking |
Posted By: aperrado
Date Posted: 13 January 2008 at 7:49am
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ok do u have detail of this subs box? ------------- Im hard to learn but still asking |
Posted By: Hugo Biermann
Date Posted: 13 January 2008 at 9:59am
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Look at this Blue Line: SL-36 with SD18 Grey Line: 1850Horn with SD18 both modeled 1/8 space  AND the SD18 will just squeeze in.  |
Posted By: Hugo Biermann
Date Posted: 13 January 2008 at 10:24am
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B36 loaded with P-Audio E18-600A. Blue: 4 bins Grey: single bin  |
Posted By: Hugo Biermann
Date Posted: 13 January 2008 at 5:19pm
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And there's some more sh*t over here: forum_posts.asp?TID=13805 - Some Bass Horns |