Bloom on TuffCab Castors
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Topic: Bloom on TuffCab Castors
Posted By: SouthwestCNC
Subject: Bloom on TuffCab Castors
Date Posted: 17 May 2017 at 3:23pm
One month out of packaging on cab in a container. Had I known they do this id have sprayed with ptfe. Do you guys do anything to yours? Anyone know is this will brush off with a copper wire brush say?
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Posted By: fatfreddiescat
Date Posted: 17 May 2017 at 3:29pm
| The ones I got from thomann last year still look like new, salt spray? |
Posted By: SouthwestCNC
Date Posted: 17 May 2017 at 3:32pm
Salt spray? There may be salt in the air as we are by the sea. But you would have thought it would take more than a month to attack them. I have plenty of galvanised bits in the workshop that have been here years and as new. edit... Just checked some other galvanised brackets that are in the container, also fine. |
fatfreddiescat wrote:Posted By: SouthwestCNC
Date Posted: 17 May 2017 at 3:34pm
| Got this on a total of 48 castors!! |
Posted By: SouthwestCNC
Date Posted: 17 May 2017 at 3:49pm
| Not galvanised that's why just very poorly electro plated. Don't take your cabs anywhere near a seaside town. |
Posted By: WILLZTHRILLZ
Date Posted: 17 May 2017 at 4:04pm
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HI, could you strip them into separate parts leaving the bearings alone and find someone near you with a small blast cabinet that does powder coating or stuff like that and just paint em with heavy zinc primer? I live in a seaside town too, so know yer problems.
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Posted By: fatfreddiescat
Date Posted: 17 May 2017 at 4:06pm
| That is a PITA, maybe worth giving them a bell? |
Posted By: SouthwestCNC
Date Posted: 17 May 2017 at 4:13pm
| They will all have to go back to blue aran. They are not fit for purpose imo, and no warnings is supplied with them and no mention in regards to only being stored at certain humidity's in the product description. I'm sure id have seen this before if this were the case for all electro plated parts on say tools for instance. |
Posted By: SouthwestCNC
Date Posted: 17 May 2017 at 4:16pm
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Anyone know of a better quality castor than tuffcab? |
Posted By: spongebob
Date Posted: 17 May 2017 at 4:20pm
| Adam hall |
Posted By: Jimmer
Date Posted: 17 May 2017 at 4:24pm
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Posted By: SouthwestCNC
Date Posted: 17 May 2017 at 4:29pm
| Thanks will have a look.. Have you guys seen this with either the pen elcom or adam hall castors? |
Posted By: fatfreddiescat
Date Posted: 17 May 2017 at 4:54pm
| for tour grade then as above for good budget solution then the Thomann castors are doing the job so far. |
Posted By: SouthwestCNC
Date Posted: 17 May 2017 at 4:54pm
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Adam hall just confirmed theirs cannot be taken anywhere near a seaside town either, Not immediately but upon questioning they believe theirs too will deteriorate quickly if there is salt in the air. (zinc coated) So really to say your cabs will be fine anywhere you need galvanised by the sounds of it. |
Posted By: SouthwestCNC
Date Posted: 17 May 2017 at 4:58pm
| Same story with penn elcom |
Posted By: DJ-Dulux
Date Posted: 17 May 2017 at 4:59pm
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You going to get that with any caster eventually, all built to a price these days. Container storage near the sea not going to help. As others, i would strip down and get local coater used to doing stuff for boats to plate or galvanise them, couple hundred um coverage. You could also look at stainless ones, but price will be high, you want 304 as a min, prefferably 316... Dupe... ------------- Dupe... |
Posted By: DJ-Dulux
Date Posted: 17 May 2017 at 5:03pm
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Just had look for stainless, not as bad as i thought cost wise.... Dupe... ------------- Dupe... |
Posted By: SouthwestCNC
Date Posted: 17 May 2017 at 5:09pm
| yeah eventually was a month in my case. Id have expected a little longer. A spray at the end of manufacture with a light oil would have prolonged it I'm sure. Just had a look at stainless, I'm seeing around £16 ea for 100mm. Quite a bit more. Did see an indian company doing galvanised tho.. will investigate. |
Posted By: ceharden
Date Posted: 17 May 2017 at 6:45pm
| Shipping containers are pretty bad for this kind of thing. I used to store all my gear in one and all the hardware on my flight cases now look like that. You can get very high humidity levels with no airflow in a container. I suspect Adam Hall or Penn hardware might have slightly better coatings but ultimately will end up looking the same. |
Posted By: SouthwestCNC
Date Posted: 17 May 2017 at 7:55pm
Not salt in the air? Its worse than I thought then. I don't believe it excuses the coating tho. I will have to make some calls to plating companies to see if they can be done better. |
Posted By: JonB67
Date Posted: 17 May 2017 at 8:22pm
| This sort of stuff frustrates the hell out of me. You say built to a price but the difference per unit to get them properly galvanised would be next to nothing. |
Posted By: SouthwestCNC
Date Posted: 17 May 2017 at 9:09pm
| I agree Jon. I'd prefer them in bare steel. This being the case to get coated myself. My guess is I'm going to call a couple of British plating companies and their response will be "what" and then go on to tell me their zinc coatings are guaranteed etc etc. I've got some cheap trago mills castors that have been left out in the rain for months. Still shining. Will subject them to a month in the container. See how they fair. |
Posted By: SouthwestCNC
Date Posted: 17 May 2017 at 9:14pm
| No doubt going to cost more to get them coated as they will need to remove the coating that's on there. |
Posted By: nickyburnell
Date Posted: 17 May 2017 at 9:25pm
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I ruined a pair of 1210's in a shipping container. In sealed flight cases that also went yuk. I am 1 mile from the sea. ------------- It's everything, not everythink! |
Posted By: cravings
Date Posted: 17 May 2017 at 9:35pm
| Got a load from bilcastors a couple of years ago. They're wearing well. |
Posted By: SouthwestCNC
Date Posted: 17 May 2017 at 9:35pm
How long where they in there? I've not experienced this before, but I've not had audio items in a container up until now. I have however had my Cnc's, hundreds of tools. Power tools. For over a 6month period and Not seen this issue on anything. I'd really not be supprised if bare steel in that container would have a slower corrosion rate than the zinc coating on those casters. |
Posted By: JonB67
Date Posted: 17 May 2017 at 10:32pm
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I get pretty bad condensation in my shipping container but it's on the soil and put it down to temperature differential causing the issue. The galvanisers in crediton are pretty good if you've enough bulk to make a job lot. Used then for a few bits over the years. Some stuff needed a bit of fettling but most came back really clean. |
Posted By: Dub Specialist Sound
Date Posted: 17 May 2017 at 10:50pm
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South , seel them to me , ill buy the lot at a good price... ------------- Musical Roots Reggae Vibration is Life! for music is sound...sound is vibration...vibration is energy... and energy begets life. Therein lies my passion!...MUSIC IS LIFE... |
Posted By: SouthwestCNC
Date Posted: 18 May 2017 at 1:53pm
| Arranged to get them zinc plated again by a local company just up the road. It all something to do with the preservation dye that's used after the zinc plating. |
Posted By: nickyburnell
Date Posted: 18 May 2017 at 7:09pm
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Year. Container on dirt ------------- It's everything, not everythink! |
Posted By: SouthwestCNC
Date Posted: 18 May 2017 at 7:38pm
Nope concrete. |
Posted By: SouthwestCNC
Date Posted: 18 May 2017 at 8:00pm
Cant have got that humid in there. The salt has attacked it for sure. I'm told I'm not professional enough to use this product. Unfortunately there is no escaping salt air here. Now I know they do this I know how to avoid it, I wont be fitting them here. 
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Posted By: GAZ.
Date Posted: 18 May 2017 at 9:00pm
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containers are fine if you have a dehumidifier inside. I've got a 40 foot one that I keep 2 cars in and lots of other stuff. The dehumidifier runs for an hour a day and it stays bone dry. Without the dehumidifier condensation drips down off the roof and ruins all your stuff very quickly. ------------- 100% Earth Moving Bass |