Arts dual lab 12.
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Topic: Arts dual lab 12.
Posted By: doller
Subject: Arts dual lab 12.
Date Posted: 22 August 2017 at 12:01pm
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Has anyone else made any?
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Posted By: doller
Date Posted: 24 August 2017 at 10:07am
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Didn't think so. Shame shame. Moderator you can delete this thread it is just wasting space. I will start a new one with build pics.
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Posted By: sn95
Date Posted: 24 August 2017 at 8:29pm
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Are you talking about Art of diy audio?
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Posted By: doller
Date Posted: 25 August 2017 at 4:08am
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Sorry Art Welters. Yes. I would love yo shake his hand and say thank you. Amazing box. I think. I want to do a build thread. just no time at the mo.
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Posted By: bob4
Date Posted: 25 August 2017 at 11:24am
Posted By: doller
Date Posted: 25 August 2017 at 11:50am
normal reflex didn't know there was a ppsl. Has anyone made this really? I have been searching and it just seems like a dead design. I made it kinda because of your recomendation bob. It is a little monster. four are just silly. for the size. It's tiny. It hits 30hz hard Art I think is being humble with his sims.
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Posted By: doller
Date Posted: 25 August 2017 at 11:50am
Posted By: JonB67
Date Posted: 25 August 2017 at 12:18pm
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How does it compare to a single 18?
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Posted By: doller
Date Posted: 25 August 2017 at 1:14pm
That depends on the single 18 and who made it. I would say the jrx ,EV eliminator boxes (which I hear alot of all the time) do not stand a hope in hell. Art says that two of these will keep up with a 218 I agree. He also said that in the low extension they will win out. That is because of the 13mm xmax of the Lab. I agree. Thease will maybe cost the same to build as a cheapo 118. But the bass is so clean and low. With not a whole lot of power.
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Posted By: Hemisphere
Date Posted: 25 August 2017 at 2:41pm
Art says that two of these will keep up with a 218 I agree | How?
They're only 89db sensitive, so they will move a lot of air and they'll play deep, but not loud. At all. They also reach their xmax really fast due to low (15) BL.
If you want a high excursion low cost dual 12" reflex use the BMS 12s305 imo. About the same price as a Lab 12. Rated 11mm excursion but BMS rate conservatively so it's more like 14mm compared to the Lab's 13.
http://www.bluearan.co.uk/index.php?id=BMS12S305L&browsemode=manufacturer" rel="nofollow - http://www.bluearan.co.uk/index.php?id=BMS12S305L&browsemode=manufacturer
More importantly, they have 20.14 BL and 95dB sensitivity, and double the RMS power handling of the Lab 12. So they can take a lot more power AND they make more noise with that power.
You can tune a pair of Lab 12's to 29Hz in a 150 litre box and they'll be flat to about 33Hz, but they reach 13mm xmax at 675w input, or about 119dB SPL. 125dB max for two double 12 enclosures. So equal to a pretty entry level 1x18, but with a lot more air movement.
What's worse is you can hardly even EQ the 30Hz up, because of a broad excursion peak running from around 25 to 50Hz, centered around 38Hz.
You could load them to a larger box and/or tune them lower, but then the xmax runs out even faster., and that excursion centre point will drop even closer to 30Hz.
By contrast, 2x BMS 12s305 tuned to 39Hz in the same box is flat to 38Hz, with an SPL of 128dB for one double vented enclosure.
If 30Hz is a priority, you can still get 123dB at 30Hz by tuning the BMS box to 32Hz, but in this design there's an excursion trough centered on 32Hz, so with 3500w of amp power, careful limiting and careful application of EQ, you can achieve 127dB at 33.5Hz. About 10dB louder than the dual Lab 12.
Edit: Subjectively I'm sure they'll sound amazing, and they'll sound huge. That massive double stacked magnet, the low Fs and accordingly the low centered excursion peak will give an incomparable reproduction of those lower registers, and if you're playing indoors you're unlikely to ever find their output wanting, with enough boxes in small to medium events, so when I say 'not loud at all', I really mean relative to a 218 or other similar enclosures. Loudness is definitely not the strong point of the box. If you tried to use these for outdoor events you'd run into issues, guaranteed.
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Posted By: Hemisphere
Date Posted: 25 August 2017 at 5:41pm
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Just had a proper look at Art's design (like an idiot I just guessed it in this comparison), and I can see the sense of it a lot better now.
The option I didn't consider: tune it higher and make the box bigger (180 litres, 35.6Hz). Then it can take more power. 126dB peak at 40Hz so a pair could reach 132dB. It's a fair comparison with a 218 sub, so long as you cross it to kicks or midtops as low as possible. (less than 60Hz ideally)
The plot just looks ugly in WinISD (5dB peak at 40Hz), but that's a pretty good place for a peak in a sub. You still can't get much true 30Hz in a compact box with these drivers, but you can get a good amount of 33-38Hz if you EQ the box. And if you're lucky enough to excite a room mode in that region then you'll definitely experience strong 30Hz.
I stand by the recommendation of the BMS, but so long as you're giving the drivers enough space it's not as much louder as I suggested. But it is 2-5dB louder, and plays truly to 30Hz without EQ.
Where the BMS gets really interesting is when we look at it's performance in a 115 litre box (57.5 litres per driver) tuned to 35.5Hz (with grey line dual Lab 12 in the same box)
Again with the BMS, if we're willing/able to use high power loading and careful EQ/peak limiting, it can approach 126, or even 127dB at 34Hz in that tiny box. (plots pictured are taken at approximately the excursion limits of each pair of drivers, no EQ applied)
Given the relatively cheap price of the drivers and their high power capacity, you could load 4 of them into a 230 litre reflex box (100 x 50 x 65cm external?), chuck a Behringer iNuke 6000DSP at it.. Pretty heavy but still a lot smaller and lighter than the 218 that seems to be the benchmark here. 133dB at 34Hz for the price of a single 21" driver, and it would move as much air as 2x 21" drivers with 9mm excursion as well.
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Posted By: doller
Date Posted: 26 August 2017 at 1:03am
Art himself says that the BMS will out perform the Lab. But I can't get BMS. I have to import them. I also know that on paper this doesn't seem so impressive. Not very loud. I can say for sure they are loud. I humd and ahhrd for well over a year. I wanted to design my own. Just don't have the time and needed subs for up and coming events. I am happy I would have been wasting my time. I have increased the size of the box a little to compensate for the double baffel, bracing and handle boxes. They need bracing. On the 218 It really depends on which one you are buying. If you have Meyer 218's and alike then no they will win hands down. If you have peavey dh then I would take Art's every day of the week. I think that alot of people maybe have Labs lying around wondering what to do with them. This is a really good sounding box. Output aside it sounds good. I am running them off a crappy Yamaha PX 10 and they are plenty loud enough, low enough and punchy. Over excursion doesn't seem to be a big problem. HP 30Hz butterworth 24db. LP 70hz. If I was giving them program maybe a different story. I might up that to 48db. I am taking them out tonight for the first real world test. Outdoors.Oh dear! As we all know it can be a real let down. Let's see. Thank you for the plots and comments. Hemisphere.
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Posted By: Hemisphere
Date Posted: 26 August 2017 at 5:36am
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You won't have any real issues with over-excursion as the lab has a huge capacity to go past it's xmax before damage, it just won't sound quite so great.
Apparently acceptable (or even detectable) distortion in peaks at 35Hz for most people is like 25-30% THD+N anyway. Certainly the lower the frequencies, the harder we find it to detect distortion.
My comment about use outdoors was based on my first ideas about their output, but if you're not able to supply enough amp power it may still be an issue. It'll be interesting to hear how they do.
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Posted By: Hemisphere
Date Posted: 26 August 2017 at 6:50am
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Thinking a bit more about that BMS 4x12 idea. After adding the volume of ports, drivers, grille area in front of baffle, cabinet walls and so on. 230 litres is viable but 280 is optimal. With 280 internal it comes to around 385 litres external. 105x56x65.5. It needs to be 105x56 at the front just to fit the 4 drivers on the baffle. 80kg or so with reasonably well braced 18mm/paint/hardware.
Ports are large and long enough to keep vent velocity down to 40m/s even at 6000w input. You can get it down to 30 but you've then got so much port you'd need to add another 25 litres of volume, and virtually the entire baffle would be drivers and ports, but it is possible (and would allow for theoretical extension of the bass with EQ up to 10000w input with 40m/s vent velocity)
So it's about the size and weight of a single horn loaded enclosure. Very power hungry (only 96dB/watt despite 4 drivers!) but an iNuke NU6000 for 369 Euros can give it all it needs to reach 134dB at 40Hz, 132dB at 34Hz (it goes 3.4mm over xmax at 48.5Hz, and 3.4 again at 31Hz with that input level).
Given the extents people go to get that sort of level of output in the low 30's with stacks of horns I'd say it's a fairly economical and straightforwards option. It's the same size as the X1 bandpass subwoofer with a similar frequency response, but output is greater and obviously a lot more hifi. The drivers are categorised as 'bass midrange' so it's a one box solution. You could run it to 250Hz even.
All in you'd be looking at something like 1200 Euros a built, loaded and powered box, or you could build it in very compact halves for ~600 each. (Assuming you already have an LMS - limiter not optional! A bit extra for DSP in the amp.) Which on the market gets you something like this https://www.andertons.co.uk/p/TS218/subwoofers/alto-ts218-active-18-sub -10dB at 35Hz 
At the higher end of PA 218 subs though you've got stuff like this for ~3500 Euros. http://www.fbt.it/en/products/mitus/mitus-218sa
I can't understand how on Earth they arrive at their 145dB half space claim though. Amp power is listed as 2000w RMS 4000w peak. Even if the true peak is 8000w and the system is 102dB/watt, that's 'only' 141dB calculated.
From the spec sheet: http://www.fbt.it/documents/31106/394149/Mitus+218SA/cfa2476b-670b-4ca0-863b-cb2c13c03885
The amp can actually only provide 2000w for 2ms bursts.. it lists a 'max peak' rating of 4000w, but that must be somewhere in the microseconds so it's totally worthless. Published response chart has a peak of 103dB sensitivity, but at 35Hz it's only 95dB/watt.
So actually 136dB peak SPL, 128dB at 35Hz, vs 135dB peak SPL, 132.5dB at 35Hz with the 4x12
So it's a very close match, for three times the price, with a 15% bigger box, 12% more weight, and considerably less low frequency extension.
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Posted By: Shortrope
Date Posted: 26 August 2017 at 9:22am
Very interesting...tempted to try this out!
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Posted By: doller
Date Posted: 27 August 2017 at 5:40am
The Verdict. My set up.
 The racks I took only used the PX 10's
 The main Pa Peavey.
 His racks and a very dodgy distro.All bridged I think I don't know what amps were powering what.

I was there for the DJ's. It was monitor duty and the main PA was a different firm. I took it as a chance to have a test and a informal booth party. My set up was about as bad as it could be. Plonked on a beach no walls or corners. For testing I thought it was a good senario I could hear just what the boxes can give by themselves. So, the 218 thing. Output. the 218 is I would say has a wee bit more. So I was wrong. Throw the 218 wins too. No surprise there. Lowness the 212 was best quite a bit lower. You would need 8 outside. Biggest problem I had was that the PX clipped for the first time in near 300hrs use. Didn't happen in the workshop. Reading the Amp Log it said that the impedence was dropping too low. Now, a bit confused was it below 4r or 2r. Need to work that out. I was pushing hard intentionaly. I would say that you need a good 2r amp to make these work. I will dust off some old iron this week and test. The speakers still had a far bit more in them I would say. The excursion wasn't at danger levels. All this said and someting that links nicely to Hemisphere's post was sound quality. I would still take them over a 218 or 118 because they sound stunning. They sound like a horn without the throw. The bass is deep , punchy and really nice to stand infront of. Makes you want to dance bass. After 15min of standing in front of the peavey it was so nice to get back in the booth. I did have it in the sweet spot (but I would say that). These are an indoor bin totaly. So much more output inside. Next week they are off to a club night. Looking forward to it.
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Posted By: Hemisphere
Date Posted: 27 August 2017 at 9:04am
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I think the reason the 218 wins for 'throw' is probably down to the falling response of the Lab12. It peaks at 40Hz in this enclosure and it's down about 5dB by 100Hz, so by the time it gets to the 'bite' of the bass, the bit we hear more than feel, it's going to be lacking unless you've EQ'd that area up (and to be fair it will be receptive to lots of EQ boost in that region if you have the amp power). The upper bass always throws less far than lower bass to begin with, so that effect would be accentuated.
Impedance is the other thing - it's a 6ohm nominal driver. Did you possibly wire it as if it was 8ohms?
If you can get it, the BMS 12s305 wins hands down in this enclosure, even as a simple drop-in replacement with no redesign of the box (as Art Welter confirms). It solves the issue of falling response, has a standard 8ohm rating, weighs 2kg less, extends further, more efficient, etc. Not many clear downsides. In the UK the Lab 12 is very expensive also. 218 pounds vs 149 for the BMS.
(actually to match the response of the original box as closely as possible the ports should be tuned a little higher to 37.3Hhz, then the lower bass plots overlap almost exactly for the same watt input, so efficiency is actually the same except when you get to the upper bass (then it's up 3dB at 110Hz).
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Posted By: bob4
Date Posted: 27 August 2017 at 10:12am
I dont think it was a fair comparison. The 218 is close to a corner, that 1 m high solid wall is going to help quite a lot by reflecticting the bass back. Although the cab is on a scaffold raised a bit and not right up to that cornwr, i would argue its close enough to make a significant difference. I'm sure your cabs would give more oomph as well if you positioned them in a similar way.
Nice work, love the bins!
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Posted By: doller
Date Posted: 27 August 2017 at 10:29am
You are a man who knows his stuff Hemisphere. I would say you are spot on with your predictions. I would love to try the bms, just to inport 8x would be pointless. I can get the labs here for aroud 125 quid. It is one speaker that is cheaper. I am crossing these to kicks at 70hz. I am aware of the graph. I have plenty of kick on this system needed lower that was one of the points. They are wired as a 3ohm box. With new amps I wasn't too worried. The PX specs are confusing. The sales bumf says 1000w 2r the A3 peice of paper you get as a manual says 4r only. Go figgure. The amps do a good job of keeping everything under control. Quite impressive for a cheapo. Problems only arise when I push hard. Under normal conditions not a problem. The amp psu and prosseser never get danger hot. Reading the device info. Even after 8 hrs pounding. I think the main problem with these outside is that you could kill the drivers without any sign of it coming. They are so clean up to max. Few beers and a heavey bass tune. Off to the recone shop.
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Posted By: Hemisphere
Date Posted: 27 August 2017 at 10:52am
Cheers - to be honest my knowledge is patchy theory poorly backed up with practice, full of assumptions and often fundamentally wrong but I've been making an effort to be more thorough recently - less assumptions, more research and application of theory through simulations.Talking of which I was looking at the impedance plots for the Lab 12 vs the BMS, and it seems like the impedance in the passband you're playing through them may be lower than the rated 6ohms.
Your amp almost certainly shouldn't run 2ohms, it's probably a case of 'technically can but probably should't, especially not on sub frequencies' - the engineering department and the marketing department are often in disagreement on ohm ratings! So if you wired them at 3ohms, but it was actually presenting something between 2-2.5 ohms in subs played right at the limits of the amp, that would do it.
So for example, in your passband, the BMS rated 8ohms has impedances of: 66.5 ohms (peak) at 58Hz 23.5 at 70Hz 8.1 (trough) at 36Hz 21.5 ohms at 28Hz.
vs the Lab 29 ohms (peak) at 46.5Hz 6.1 ohms at 70Hz 5.6 ohms (trough) at 33.5Hz 7 ohms at 28Hz
So by these points at least, if the BMS is 8ohms then the Lab is more like 4ohms, and in many areas (28Hz and 70Hz ie) the impedance for the Lab is incredibly low - considerably less than half of the BMS.
Edit: Those drivers will take a LOT of excursion. The most likely cause of death would be amp power over their rating. Peaks will be less of a problem than sustained RMS tones, so with high power you'd absolutely need an RMS limiter.
I think excursion is something like 25-30mm each way, 50-60mm peak to peak on the Labs, before damage. If you forget to high pass, that might do it but you'd still need to get very unlucky with some unusual music that decides to blast some 20-25Hz tones at maximum amplitude. Even with 1500w input to the box, the excursion of the Lab at 25Hz is 25mm.
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Posted By: bob4
Date Posted: 27 August 2017 at 11:37am
Hemisphere wrote:
I think excursion is something like 25-30mm each way, 50-60mm peak to peak on the Labs, before damage. If you forget to high pass, that might do it but you'd still need to get very unlucky with some unusual music that decides to blast some 20-25Hz tones at maximum amplitude. Even with 1500w input to the box, the excursion of the Lab at 25Hz is 25mm.
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Careless needledrop could do that as well..... I bought an ecler nuo2, that doesnt seem to have a low pass filter or at least not a very steep one. Needledrops make my cones jump literally. Didnt have that problem with my previous mixers
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Posted By: doller
Date Posted: 28 August 2017 at 8:15am
I Know what you are saying bob about the sea wall. I was still happy to test them this way. Inside they are a very different animal. The main thing that I came away with was sound quality. No honkey bass really pure. I was trying to work out what kind of impedence the amps would be seeing. You did the work for me thanks Hemisphere. When I do a DJ event I always put a Allenand Heath z14 inbetween the djm and lms. Maybe a bad thing but works very well for me. I almost never hit the limiters. Only after I have had a few beers. At the moment I don't have the amp power to really destroy them. Eyeing up K3's. I have switched them over to an old QSC 3800 If they weren't 40 years old they should give me 900 into 2r. I can't honestly here much difference in output. They will sit on 2r all day long. Doubling would give 3 db I know. I might test them on a pl4 to see if I can get the over xmax. They really don't seem close yet. I have the grill sitting 15mm off the basket so I hope it would hit that first. Then I would know. I think they are sitting just over the 2r. so the amp was telling me 4r.
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Posted By: doller
Date Posted: 28 August 2017 at 1:31pm
May as well post the few build pics I have. Hope to paint them this week. handles routed out
 Baffel template
 First cut 32mm baffel
 second cut
 bracing
 Used the off cut fronm the baffel to locate the port board

 inside without the top panel.
 Hard wood runners so they don't soak up spilled beer. MDF has a habit of doing that.
 Loading.
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Posted By: Hemisphere
Date Posted: 28 August 2017 at 1:52pm
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Great build - good call on the runners. Just looking at that row off drivers you get a feeling of the sort of sound these must be putting out - The magnet to cone ratio is just phenomenal!
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Posted By: JonB67
Date Posted: 28 August 2017 at 2:16pm
Mdf and huge magnets. Not going to get blown over by the wind that's for sure!
How heavy are they?
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Posted By: mini-mad
Date Posted: 28 August 2017 at 8:35pm
They look like they weigh a f##k ton!
Nice to see someone making dust! Very nice and well thought out build there fella
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Posted By: doller
Date Posted: 30 August 2017 at 7:46am
JonB67 I have no idear. Must be pushing 40kg. I can get them in the van by myself. The reason I use MDF is that birch ply is 135quid a sheet here plus tax and postage. Not vaiable. I made them chunky on purpose. Very glad I did those labs pound the box. So, made the beech dowel to fill the screw holes. May be of interest to somebody. One time walk away sand once. Makes sense to me.
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Posted By: doller
Date Posted: 30 August 2017 at 7:48am
Posted By: bob4
Date Posted: 30 August 2017 at 12:22pm
love those japanese saws, bought a pricey one from the hardware store recently, only to find a bigger double blade version for 8€ in Lidl yesterday…. 
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Posted By: Shortrope
Date Posted: 30 August 2017 at 12:47pm
Lovely work!
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Posted By: JonB67
Date Posted: 30 August 2017 at 2:28pm
I suspected they'd be pretty weighty. I have to lug mine upstairs and i wouldn't fancy that on my own.
Your build is tidy though, and they look great! Loving the dowels.
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Posted By: doller
Date Posted: 31 August 2017 at 9:23am
Bob they are nice saws that one is a flush trim 'kuggihiki' so the teeth have no set. I must admit that I had real trouble with them at first. Now I really get it and love them. The double one is called a 'ryoba' rip and cross cut. Watch the teeth they are very brittle. The other one is maybe a 'dozuki'. Shortrope thank you. I really wanted to see the pics of your last build but couldn't quite sad about that.
JonB I doubt that I could lug them down the stairs by myself. This being Japan there is always someone to help. Nice people.
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Posted By: Sapro2
Date Posted: 31 August 2017 at 3:58pm
bob4 wrote:
Hemisphere wrote:
I think excursion is something like 25-30mm each way, 50-60mm peak to peak on the Labs, before damage. If you forget to high pass, that might do it but you'd still need to get very unlucky with some unusual music that decides to blast some 20-25Hz tones at maximum amplitude. Even with 1500w input to the box, the excursion of the Lab at 25Hz is 25mm.
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Careless needledrop could do that as well..... I bought an ecler nuo2, that doesnt seem to have a low pass filter or at least not a very steep one. Needledrops make my cones jump literally. Didnt have that problem with my previous mixers
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Sorry to thread hijack (Great and interesting thread by the way Doller and Hemisphere, thankyou). I've got a Nuo2 DJ mixer and I love it. It has a properly big powersupply on it so the levels it can do are brilliant for providing a decent signal to the rack. Two points: low end filtering should be done in the rack and also make sure you do the mod to get the high output from the mixer.
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Posted By: doller
Date Posted: 08 September 2017 at 6:22am

All finished ready to go out tomorrow. The two things that I still haven't found here are someone to make the grills. The other is paint. No Warnex or Tough Cab. I used frp resin with toner. Looks OK but not really scatch resistant. So Making do. I have been searching for 5 years for paint. Really no one sells it here. Found one site but it was like 10 times the prie. Big gap in the market for someone. I know other people want it.
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Posted By: Hemisphere
Date Posted: 08 September 2017 at 7:55am
Wow. They look great! Did you bolt the front edging on separately? It's a neat touch.
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Posted By: Shortrope
Date Posted: 08 September 2017 at 11:31am
I've been using a 2k Polyurethane with a matting agent added. That must be available no? With a basic pressure pot rig you can get a really good Spatter finish.
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Posted By: doller
Date Posted: 08 September 2017 at 12:29pm
Hemisphere, That is beech bead to hold the grills in. Long story. I left 30mm at the front for the grills. But worked out 35mm would have been best. 6mm grill plus 15mm xmax. Worked out good though. Protects the front corners. Shortrope. I have only done resin finish 3 times. I have all the guns and compressors but not the experience. My big spray gun was 250 bucks so going steady b4 I fill it with resin. Please remember the ambiant temp here at the mo is 35c. With 1% I don't have much time. I have chopped strand but need a bit more practice. But thanks and I will look further into it. What size nozzel? I am on a 1.5mm Need to decode the chinese writing to find the matting agent added one.
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Posted By: Hemisphere
Date Posted: 08 September 2017 at 12:59pm
Well whatever the reason for it it worked out well. Gives the boxes character.
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Posted By: doller
Date Posted: 10 December 2024 at 3:17am
Very unscientific but tells you something. I guess. It was pink noise sub only. The amp QSC pl4 and processor BSS318 When I made these I quickly realized I didn't have an amp that would do them justice. So I took the drivers out and stored them. I then came across 4 amcron 3600 going cheap. Then every time I walked past the Arts I wondered. That went on for a few years. So, a few months ago I reinstated them. Very hard to describe the sound. They just rumble in a nice way Not Woofy growling at you. I love them. Quite unique I think. When I was testing, my workshop is 50mtrs away from the kitchen. My wife's friend Asked if that was an earthquake. Wife "no just Dom and his speakers." They rumble.
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Posted By: JonB67
Date Posted: 17 December 2024 at 7:12pm
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It's a great feeling to be listening to cabs you made and think damn that sounds good!
Cracking job Dom.
Shame we lost Hemisphere along the way. This thread shows just how generous he was with his time and knowledge.
Jon
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Posted By: gb821
Date Posted: 12 December 2025 at 11:52am
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Hello! I'm really interested in building this Art’s Dual Lab12 design, but I'm struggling to find a clear plan. From the post here (https://soundforums.net/community/threads/free-sub-plan-dual-lab12-front-loaded-by-welter-systems.164/), I’ve been able to extract most of the information, but I still feel like it’s not enough to confidently start building it!
Do you have a complete plan?
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