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Topic: Best scoop for 18NLW9601?
Posted By: PuppaBB
Subject: Best scoop for 18NLW9601?
Date Posted: 09 October 2017 at 10:32pm

What's your opinion?


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Posted By: bee
Date Posted: 09 October 2017 at 10:44pm
needs to be a deep chamber as its a big driver (depth)

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Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 10 October 2017 at 8:22pm
This driver sounds mental in my design.. (Lev .44)

Unfortunately, the design is not a free plan.


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Posted By: PinHole
Date Posted: 11 October 2017 at 4:59pm
Originally posted by levyte357- levyte357- wrote:

This driver sounds mental in my design.. (Lev .44)

Unfortunately, the design is not a free plan.

Very helpful!  Wink



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Posted By: mini-mad
Date Posted: 11 October 2017 at 5:12pm
Originally posted by bee bee wrote:


needs to be a deep chamber as its a big driver (depth)


Would you suggest a few designs where the chamber is considered big? Is there a table knocking about that shows chamber sizes form small to big?



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Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 11 October 2017 at 9:31pm
Originally posted by PinHole PinHole wrote:

Originally posted by levyte357- levyte357- wrote:

This driver sounds mental in my design.. (Lev .44)

Unfortunately, the design is not a free plan.

Very helpful!  Wink


I know right! LOL


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Posted By: mini-mad
Date Posted: 11 October 2017 at 10:54pm
Originally posted by RealitySound RealitySound wrote:

Originally posted by PinHole PinHole wrote:

Originally posted by levyte357- levyte357- wrote:

This driver sounds mental in my design.. (Lev .44)

Unfortunately, the design is not a free plan.


Very helpful!  Wink



I know right! LOL



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Posted By: valve head777
Date Posted: 11 October 2017 at 11:10pm
Are said plans available to buy then?

Maybe not for us little boys lol


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Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 13 October 2017 at 6:10pm
There are some people who ask which Scoops are great for certain drivers, because they intend to "Buy cabs"..

As opposed to sat on their arses on SP, waiting for free plans to drop in their laps...

Wink


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Posted By: luton_soundman
Date Posted: 13 October 2017 at 6:42pm
No one asks tony for plans but expect everyone else to give them away. Theres more than enough information on the forum for anyone to take the time to design their own scoop.

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Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 13 October 2017 at 7:42pm
Originally posted by luton_soundman luton_soundman wrote:

No one asks tony for plans but expect everyone else to give them away. Theres more than enough information on the forum for anyone to take the time to design their own scoop.


Was thinking exactly this..

Plus I can remember giving man plans on here, he go build cabs and make money, then come back on here and diss me...  Confused


You tell people here to use their IQ, and search Scoops Forum for all the answers, and they tell you no, you search and tell me the answer instead..

Plenty keyboard warrior here, love disrespect ppl on the forum, let's see if they have that big talk, if they ever step out their house, and are seen in certain Reggae dance..


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Posted By: mini-mad
Date Posted: 13 October 2017 at 11:15pm


...i love this section....





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Posted By: valve head777
Date Posted: 13 October 2017 at 11:34pm
you can have the biggest b line all night long but if your tunes are sh1t, you ain't saying nothing.
I'm happy with what I have, never asked for plans on here, however when I'm bored, I read SP through and through and I know over the years certain people have asked all the questions and aggregated the answer's to build what they think to be the ultimate scoop. What gets me is the very same people knock others down for asking questions. Yeah, they could spend hours trawling the forum, but might still get it wrong, but the sharing of info is what a diy site is about. So about time certain people just stick to the "big man's sites" now instead of posting ridiculous useless comments driven by their misplaced ego. Once again, in the "scoop section" I'm out.
Nothing to see here, jog along boy.


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Posted By: mini-mad
Date Posted: 13 October 2017 at 11:40pm
... you!... I like you!



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Posted By: valve head777
Date Posted: 14 October 2017 at 12:13am
Some don't/ won't lol....


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Posted By: valve head777
Date Posted: 14 October 2017 at 12:14am
OOooops, I was supposed to be out.....


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Posted By: JonB67
Date Posted: 14 October 2017 at 12:52am
You asked if the plan was for sale and got shot down for asking for a free plan?

Is that what's happened here?????


Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 14 October 2017 at 1:02am
Originally posted by levyte357- levyte357- wrote:

Originally posted by luton_soundman luton_soundman wrote:

No one asks tony for plans but expect everyone else to give them away. Theres more than enough information on the forum for anyone to take the time to design their own scoop.


Was thinking exactly this..

Plus I can remember giving man plans on here, he go build cabs and make money, then come back on here and diss me...  Confused


You tell people here to use their IQ, and search Scoops Forum for all the answers, and they tell you no, you search and tell me the answer instead..

Plenty keyboard warrior here, love disrespect ppl on the forum, let's see if they have that big talk, if they ever step out their house, and are seen in certain Reggae dance..

Never dissed you. Just refused to PAY you for what I thought was free help. 
Allow me to quote you....(At this point I had built 4 scoops, loaded one)

"By the way mate, guess you'll have 8x of the scoops soon, playing outside to big crowds.

When you gonna send me some $$ mate ?"

Taking advantage of newbies for monetary gain is just sad dude.
You threatening guys on here now? What you gonna do in certain reggae dance?
SAD SAD SAD
LOL


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Posted By: PuppaBB
Date Posted: 28 October 2017 at 3:30pm
Well... 
Starting this topic I only wanted some info, some feedback from 9601/scoop owners. I'm reading and reading years on SP. There is not so much info about this driver in combination with different scoops.

The last 6 years I've been worknig with Hog/ PD1850. Is not the heaviest combination but sound good, I'm relatively happy.
But all you know the human being is restless so... I'm thinking on an update, looking for more deep response (lower also) maybe speaker only, maybe box also... And have read here some good things about this 9001/9601. 
Someone said it works fine with Hog. But I think his chamber is maybe too "little". I think that a good plan  can be change driver first, save some money and later (maybe) also boxes. 

That was the intention of this topic.

Result: not too good lol. 

Sorry for my english.


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Posted By: MarjanM
Date Posted: 28 October 2017 at 4:50pm
Those are not suitable for scoops.

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Posted By: bee
Date Posted: 28 October 2017 at 4:58pm
ive loaded scoops with this driver and had GREAT RESULTS, I'm doing a test session shortly, with a few drivers lined up to test in a clients scoop. ill be doing proper rta readings and a/bing drivers by ear too... ill post results if it may help....

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Posted By: krazyneil
Date Posted: 28 October 2017 at 5:05pm
you gotta love this placeSmile
two pro's and both say the opposite of each thereClap

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Posted By: PuppaBB
Date Posted: 28 October 2017 at 6:08pm
Some tests are always welcome. Rta test is good but always with some good ears also. 
I'm planning to do the same with my hogs, a/b comparison with my PD1850, 1852 and 9601, and maybe a Beyma.




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Posted By: MarjanM
Date Posted: 29 October 2017 at 12:06am
Originally posted by krazyneil krazyneil wrote:

you gotta love this placeSmile
two pro's and both say the opposite of each thereClap

Looks like you have missed some of the classes mate. :-)


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Posted By: djkeet
Date Posted: 29 October 2017 at 1:04am
Originally posted by bee bee wrote:


ive loaded scoops with this driver and had GREAT RESULTS,


Do you remember which scoops Ben
I think it will be interesting to see the results of the RTA's do you have other scoops to AB against as well?

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Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 29 October 2017 at 11:40am
Originally posted by MarjanM MarjanM wrote:

Those are not suitable for scoops.


To be clear...

Are you saying, 18sound 18NLW9601, are not suitable for Scoops !?


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Posted By: MarjanM
Date Posted: 29 October 2017 at 12:50pm
Originally posted by levyte357- levyte357- wrote:

Originally posted by MarjanM MarjanM wrote:

Those are not suitable for scoops.


To be clear...

Are you saying, 18sound 18NLW9601, are not suitable for Scoops !?

Those are your own words from like 4-5 years ago :-)
You made me stupid back then when i said it will kill in a right scoop.
Remember?


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Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 29 October 2017 at 1:07pm
Originally posted by MarjanM MarjanM wrote:

Originally posted by levyte357- levyte357- wrote:

Originally posted by MarjanM MarjanM wrote:

Those are not suitable for scoops.


To be clear...

Are you saying, 18sound 18NLW9601, are not suitable for Scoops !?

Those are your own words from like 4-5 years ago :-)
You made me stupid back then when i said it will kill in a right scoop.
Remember?


Maybe you'd like to present that post here?

EDIT: "If you didn't just make that up.. That is.."



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Posted By: MarjanM
Date Posted: 29 October 2017 at 2:00pm
I ma not the only person that remembers this.
There is even your statement confirming this. But i have no time to bother and dig old topic. I have better things to do.


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Posted By: bee
Date Posted: 29 October 2017 at 10:44pm
Originally posted by MarjanM MarjanM wrote:

I ma not the only person that remembers this.
There is even your statement confirming this. But i have no time to bother and dig old topic. I have better things to do.
 
correct, lol.... the 9601 is a killer in the right scoop. most of the us guys have been using the 9601 for years...


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Posted By: bee
Date Posted: 29 October 2017 at 10:45pm
ive used them in my own designs and recently modded some original s118's with shims to fit them...

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Posted By: bee
Date Posted: 29 October 2017 at 10:47pm
Originally posted by djkeet djkeet wrote:

Originally posted by bee bee wrote:


ive loaded scoops with this driver and had GREAT RESULTS,


Do you remember which scoops Ben
I think it will be interesting to see the results of the RTA's do you have other scoops to AB against as well?
 
I'm only doing the tests for a client to see and hear for himself. the a/b with different drivers will be done in the same mini scoop. so far ive lined up a few drivers.


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Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 30 October 2017 at 2:00am
Originally posted by MarjanM MarjanM wrote:

i have no time to bother and dig old topic. I have better things to do.


As I thought, making stuff up to cause another argument.

I may have said "expensive and not as sensitive as some", but that would be it.

Facepalm.



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Posted By: Motion54
Date Posted: 30 October 2017 at 9:46am
Originally posted by levyte357- levyte357- wrote:

This driver sounds mental in my design.. (Lev .44)

Unfortunately, the design is not a free plan.


I have a set of four of these scoops available to buy. Haven’t got around to messing about with them as I still have 12 other scoops.



Posted By: djkeet
Date Posted: 30 October 2017 at 12:44pm
Originally posted by bee bee wrote:


ive used them in my own designs and recently modded some original s118's with shims to fit them...


Yes because that would be a really tight fit

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Posted By: bee
Date Posted: 30 October 2017 at 11:41pm
Originally posted by djkeet djkeet wrote:

Originally posted by bee bee wrote:


ive used them in my own designs and recently modded some original s118's with shims to fit them...


Yes because that would be a really tight fit
 
correct they wont fit in a standard s118. the baffle cutout is too small, and due to the rebate for the original jbl drivers, the 9601 would hit the back baffle, so a shim is needed.


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Posted By: Anil Mahadeo
Date Posted: 01 March 2020 at 1:34pm
Can I have a quote for the design. I need to make 4 urgently


Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 01 March 2020 at 1:45pm
Originally posted by Anil Mahadeo Anil Mahadeo wrote:

Can I have a quote for the design. I need to make 4 urgently


If I was you, would confirm any design you are asked to pay for is proven.

I have a prototype design, that tested well with:

PD1850 Mk1/Mk2, NOT "/2",
PD1851
PD1852
18sound 18NLW9601

Still have not decided, what I'll do with it..


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Posted By: torpedo22
Date Posted: 26 April 2020 at 4:11pm
Hi guys

I want to build the 21" Super but the PD2150 apparently isn't available anymore. 
Does anybody has an idea if the 21NLW9601 would work in this scoop? I've seen that the parameters of the 18 and 21NLW9601 are quite similar.

Would someone be able to simulate the 21NLW9601 in hornresp?

Thank You!


Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 26 April 2020 at 7:41pm
Originally posted by Anil Mahadeo Anil Mahadeo wrote:

Can I have a quote for the design. I need to make 4 urgently

I have a scoop they sound amazing in. Ask everyone within a mile from my house!


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Posted By: RealitySound
Date Posted: 26 April 2020 at 7:43pm
Originally posted by torpedo22 torpedo22 wrote:

Hi guys

I want to build the 21" Super but the PD2150 apparently isn't available anymore. 
Does anybody has an idea if the 21NLW9601 would work in this scoop? I've seen that the parameters of the 18 and 21NLW9601 are quite similar.

Would someone be able to simulate the 21NLW9601 in hornresp?

Thank You!

I'll send you a link



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Posted By: Daddy Culture
Date Posted: 05 October 2021 at 11:21pm
Anyone tried this driver (NLW9601) on POLAR BEAR scoops?


Posted By: vragas
Date Posted: 06 October 2021 at 2:36pm
yes interested to know too about this driver and polar scoops, anyone tried it yet?


Posted By: Sinai Sound
Date Posted: 06 October 2021 at 4:25pm
The designer of the scoop told me the 18DS115 is the one to try Tongue


Posted By: Daddy Culture
Date Posted: 23 October 2021 at 12:35am
Yeah, how about the DS100?

I know the DS115 is better but the DS100 it seems to work and nobody talk about it


Posted By: levyte357-
Date Posted: 31 December 2021 at 11:47am
Have said it before, through real life testing, have learnt to take Scoop sims with a pinch of salt.

Skill, driver parameter understanding, testing, trial and error needed, to optimally match Scoop throat/Chamber, to driver T/S parms.


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Posted By: APSUS
Date Posted: 12 February 2022 at 6:51am
So what’s the verdict, better? 18NL9601 or the Turbosmax Red-I 1800?



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