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watts are cheap these days, cheaper to put lots of power into a speaker than getting a driver to make the same output with half the power at the same price point.
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Originally posted by mk2_ginger_biscuit69 mk2_ginger_biscuit69 wrote:

watts are cheap these days, cheaper to put lots of power into a speaker than getting a driver to make the same output with half the power at the same price point.


Agreed, but harder still to get a high efficiency driver and find a way of running it reliably at a higher power as well. That’s what makes these speakers different. 140 db peak of top pro audio quality sound from something as small as a little disco speaker is the result, and I’m hoping people will appreciate a small active speaker with those properties.

I’m not planning to spend much time online trying to convince people of something they might not be ready to believe or accept, I’ll just wait until people have the chance to hear them and let them decide based on the only valid criteria, which is how they actually perform.

Hopefully you might hear them sometime, and then I would be delighted to receive any feedback, good or bad :-)
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Message me a brochure please. Were these the boxes used at the Bristol sound clash?
Would like to hear these if you guys are playing in London anytime soon
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote csg Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 December 2017 at 8:58am
whilst I applaud you for trying to bring something new to the market, I would have major concerns about a cabinet weighing 57Kg breaking into the mobile / small system market, being too heavy for 99% of speaker stands / distance poles + top hat assemblies, and too heavy for the majority of people to lift up high safely.
I also question the need for a small wide coverage speaker that can offer 140db - that in the hands of a mobile dj with dodgy mp3's fills me with dread...
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aybe a case to be made (so to speak) for a lightweight version with the same guts but a number of compromises for lower weight using specialised materials and processes at a modest extra cost.

Lots of talk of the possible benefits of well braced poplar ply ie, get grilles and tophat and handles in aluminium, shave grams wherever possible and you may get it down to 42-45.
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Game changer if price OK. 57kg for a cab in a situation where 4 cabs look like they can do the job of many is a small price to pay. 2 sub, two top. If the dispersion is OK a couple or three hundred kilos (no amp rack don't forget) is the whole system!
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Lots of active boxes from big brands claim 137dB these days with full range capability. They may be optimistic in their ratings but you're looking at 101dB reflex with 3000w+ amp power. The best modern 15" drivers can take that and more in well managed peaks, especially if band limited to 110Hz and up..and of course cheap light class D modules continue to improve.

The weight really is a major issue here. It's competing against dozens of viable alternatives if you don't need 140dB clean from one box.

Compared to the best alternatives on offer currently it's perhaps got the performance of 5 boxes in 3, and there are situations where this will be useful, but when those 5 boxes are 30kg each they're a lot more flexible in application.

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Originally posted by nickyburnell nickyburnell wrote:

Game changer if price OK. 57kg for a cab in a situation where 4 cabs look like they can do the job of many is a small price to pay. 2 sub, two top. If the dispersion is OK a couple or three hundred kilos (no amp rack don't forget) is the whole system!

 
Correct Nicky, these are game changers, they do exactly what the brochure says with unbelievable quality, they are nothing like other active boxes on the market, but I'm sure they will be pulled apart on here by others who have not heard them.
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My opinion for what it's worth...2 stacks of 3 speakers, 2 sub plus one top would easily produce enough very high quality sound for almost any indoor event! These things were very loud and clear, surprisingly so in fact and they genuinely weren't turned up anywhere near full! I don't claim to be an expert it I have seen a lot of large rigs and this was up there! I have no connection with RC1 just saying what I saw and heard in person
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I fail to see how 4 boxes at below 300kg is an issue for a complete system. Ffs folks people carry tons of metal in for trendy rigging, damn great amp racks etc. If the figures add up in tests then it's Four damn boxes for a lot of people. Get a sack truck or some weights. 57kg, not 157! My record boxes came to more than that for 20years trawling around DJing

Edit. The man said cabs size of disco cabs. Not these are for discos. No wedding dj or singer needs 140db, they will continue with normal stuff. These if proved as advertised will REDUCE the carry in for many. Can't wait to hear them and take a peak at the tech

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Originally posted by RC1 Sound System RC1 Sound System wrote:

Originally posted by mk2_ginger_biscuit69 mk2_ginger_biscuit69 wrote:

watts are cheap these days, cheaper to put lots of power into a speaker than getting a driver to make the same output with half the power at the same price point.


Agreed, but harder still to get a high efficiency driver and find a way of running it reliably at a higher power as well. That’s what makes these speakers different. 140 db peak of top pro audio quality sound from something as small as a little disco speaker is the result, and I’m hoping people will appreciate a small active speaker with those properties.

I’m not planning to spend much time online trying to convince people of something they might not be ready to believe or accept, I’ll just wait until people have the chance to hear them and let them decide based on the only valid criteria, which is how they actually perform.

Hopefully you might hear them sometime, and then I would be delighted to receive any feedback, good or bad :-)



hey man not slagging at all, more a reply to the 500w comment before. I look forward to hearing all your stuff one day, you really need to fit your south west events into my schedule, contact me next time and we can make sure your plans revolve around me WinkLOL


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I have some questions afterwards.

-If you're using 500 (reall) Watts head room for the High (maybe also mid) driver.
As I am known of the biggest (as in AES Watts) high driver is 230 Watt AES, and even if that driver is pushed to 230 Watt AES you would need a double horn loaded (maybe 12") section to accompany it.
So I am really curious how the max SPL is reached by a single 15". Even if it is horn loaded I don't see it happen really..

Maybe there is a language barrier.. and that some things are not quite right how i said it.
Ofcourse I would love to hear the system first before I give a real option about the stuff, but I don't see that happening in The Netherlands soon Cry. (and I am really not a "reggae and stuff" guy, so maybe I have some different preferences).


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