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    Posted: 08 January 2018 at 2:47pm
fast question, to drive 3000w @ 4 ohm per side ..it's enough the PCM20....for now I use the sanway fp14000 (2017), no problem, but I'm always scared of not finishing the party
In eu where these sae can be found
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Originally posted by sgarfa sgarfa wrote:

fast question, to drive 3000w @ 4 ohm per side ..it's enough the PCM20....for now I use the sanway fp14000 (2017), no problem, but I'm always scared of not finishing the party
In eu where these sae can be found

In the UK, Elements Audio.
Forum member Bee, who runs Elements, has posted that he's waiting on new product arriving IIRC.
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thanks very kind ...

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Yes, a 2x4800W at 4 ohm per channel. 2.66 omh stable.

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why they are so sub-declared?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote osse Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 January 2018 at 12:17pm
Originally posted by MarjanM MarjanM wrote:

Yes, a 2x4800W at 4 ohm per channel. 2.66 omh stable.



Really? The company declares 2x3500kw at 4 ohms, are they that much more powerful?

Their declared specs of the pxm 1450 are very close to the measured tests of abeltronics, if it's the same (cannot see why not) with the pcm20 it's already very potent.

With about 3.8kw @ 2.6 ohm you could throw three 21" b&c drivers each side and probably give them a good beating as long as the psu doesn't crappy out and on a 32A feed

Have you tried the amp? I've got a pxm and have trust in their products
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote bee Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 January 2018 at 3:44pm
Osse, the figures are as true as specced, yes the new amps do boast some big figures, and pfc on some models. full details will be announced soon... (with in 2 weeks)
https://www.elements-audio.com
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The new amp is not SAE made, but from the same engineer that opened his own production. So you wont find it on the SAE site.
PQM13 replacement too and few other amps are also coming.
SAE is more or less a dead horse now due to their completely unreasonable work policy and the quality seems to go down with every new generation of amps.
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Originally posted by bee bee wrote:


Osse, the figures are as true as specced, yes the new amps do boast some big figures, and pfc on some models. full details will be announced soon... (with in 2 weeks)


Exciting to see the new products in 2 weeks :)

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Originally posted by MarjanM MarjanM wrote:

The new amp is not SAE made, but from the same engineer that opened his own production. So you wont find it on the SAE site.
PQM13 replacement too and few other amps are also coming.
SAE is more or less a dead horse now due to their completely unreasonable work policy and the quality seems to go down with every new generation of amps.

Care to explain and or post some links?

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Originally posted by unclejam unclejam wrote:

Originally posted by MarjanM MarjanM wrote:

The new amp is not SAE made, but from the same engineer that opened his own production. So you wont find it on the SAE site.
PQM13 replacement too and few other amps are also coming.
SAE is more or less a dead horse now due to their completely unreasonable work policy and the quality seems to go down with every new generation of amps.

Care to explain and or post some links?

 
details will be available shortly...
 
but as Marjan has said, its the same design team, and sales, customer service team, infact alot of the sae staff lol... Sadly like alot of companys Sae have taken big short cuts in the current range, and are asking for order quantitys that are very unrealistic. Even if i placed my years worth of sale and marjans we still would be short on ther stupid minimum qty... pure crazy stuff going on... But the new range is a massive upgrade in quality and does offer even bigger amps in the light weight and transformer range..
 
https://www.elements-audio.com
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Awesome, any chance they'll have something that's a little friendlier on the compression driver side of life too? Having 800 rms on a 2 inch cd seems a bit silly.

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