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    Posted: 06 April 2017 at 3:53pm
Hi any real world user info not opinions on the 4 channel Sae pqm13 amp , how does it sound on midtops or sub, any reliability issues ?
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I have one, I use to run kick and Subs on my TMS-4 system, it sounds solid, much more so than other similar looking amps, appears to well made and is happy running on Gensets.

I would say, I run my rig mainly for live music, not sat there near to clipping for DJ crap bouncing off the limiters.

I have heard if driven into clip they can cause havoc with the mains supply, but I haven't tried that game...
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We have/had/installed quite a few pqms - no issues at all, even the 3 year old ones never missed a beat..
They do 4ohm bass/8ohm sub each channel but struggle any lower with low notes, running tops 2.66 is fine..
Cant fault them driving tops either although i personally like Matrix more on MHF tbh.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote bee Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 April 2017 at 8:53pm
Good groove they have been updated to a mk2, even better than before. New models will be in the uk in the next few weeks..
 
my view may be bias,
 
But ive spanked the ass off them from gensets to good and poor mains. Run a lorry full of em at nottinghill again last year. we even swopped another brand out for sae, as one of my teams amps just could not cut it vs the sae, he now has a full rack of em...
 


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I've run them on mid and kick but not on highs or subs. Excellent amps and for the money can't think of anything that'll beat them.
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Thanks to all for input.
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happy with mine on bi-amped mid/high boxes. build quality seems good and looks relatively easy to work on and repair.
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Would be good to see, how they cope on Reggae soundsystem, with pre-amp.
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I use a PQM8 for midtops. 2x12" (Fane 12MB) + 1x BMS 4590, per side.

Before the PQM8 I have tried both Crest 8001 and Soundstandard CA18 on both the 12" and the co-ax on top, and sometime a Matrix XT800 on the coax.

I never did any direct comparisons but across various venues/nights impressions were:

- Crest 8001 coldest/darkest sounding on the BMS coax, lacking in very high frequencies
- Crest 8001 not enough headroom on the mids but good sounding 
- Matrix XT800 best sounding on coax tops but not enough headroom (one XT800 bridged per 4590 would be a winner)
- SS CA18 best on mids, loads of headroom, decent sounding
- PQM8 second best sound on coax, a bit harsher but I have since EQ'd the coax comps for the horn they are using so next outing will be interesting to hear the difference
- PQM8 perfect amount of power/headroom for BMS coax
- PQM8 Good sounding on mids, not as much headroom/clean power as SS CA18 but better transients.

Have not run PQM8 on subs yet. not had it too long. 

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Have you thought about pkn. Lovely sound to my ears for not too dissimilar money.
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know a venue that ran/run 4x 4590s off a pqm8 since 3 years quite happily.. matrix xt6004 would sound better tough imho :)

still rate the xt800s quite high too on MHF..



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Personally, I would love to hear a PKN but as not pro companies use them and they have no Pro dealer network in the UK, I can't.

I can go to LMC or similar and get demo kit, but PKN have no presence in the UK.

Gut thoughts, 1U is a massive mechanical liability, the  3 phase connector is a joke, but as I have never heard a bad word about the sound I would like to try one.

The PQM13 rocks and Bee has a real "Pro" user thing going on, whilst I see PKN probably can't afford Bee on-line, they need to appoint a Uk pro dealer and equip them with demo stock.

Given support and market penetration, SAE all day.




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