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Originally posted by levyte357- levyte357- wrote:

I've heard the Tmax 1500 in Shortman full/minis.

Up close, loads of notes.

5M back, "Are the cabs playing !?" Confused

Indoors or outdoors/free from nearby walls etc?  It was the same when I used my two hogs indoors. Up close vision was blurred and ears almost bleeding, few steps back and that was it.  Outdoors, same setup, bass could be easily felt 30 meters away! You just could not get away from the bass.



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Maybe ask Roy, he will have feedback from customers? 



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Put that in the right Scoop, with right power and pre-amp, it's over.
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Originally posted by levyte357- levyte357- wrote:

Originally posted by nickyburnell nickyburnell wrote:

Maybe ask Roy, he will have feedback from customers? 



The Turbomax Redeye driver, is now RMJs premier offering.

Put that in the right Scoop, with right power and pre-amp, it's over.






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Originally posted by levyte357- levyte357- wrote:

I've heard the Tmax 1500 in Shortman full/minis.

Up close, loads of notes.

5M back, "Are the cabs playing !?" Confused

Indoors or outdoors/free from nearby walls etc?  It was the same when I used my two hogs indoors. Up close vision was blurred and ears almost bleeding, few steps back and that was it.  Outdoors, same setup, bass could be easily felt 30 meters away! You just could not get away from the bass.





That is what I have experienced many, many times with lots of different cabs. T18 notorious for it, Martin 215, CV Folded horns even Cubo's.  Seems the driver turns the scoop into something different, or just isn't suited for indoor scoops.  Would be interesting in a 2x18 reflex for a laugh?
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Well shortman wont have much throw tbh due to its design
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Originally posted by nickyburnell nickyburnell wrote:

Originally posted by Tonskulus Tonskulus wrote:

Originally posted by levyte357- levyte357- wrote:

I've heard the Tmax 1500 in Shortman full/minis.

Up close, loads of notes.

5M back, "Are the cabs playing !?" Confused

Indoors or outdoors/free from nearby walls etc?  It was the same when I used my two hogs indoors. Up close vision was blurred and ears almost bleeding, few steps back and that was it.  Outdoors, same setup, bass could be easily felt 30 meters away! You just could not get away from the bass.





That is what I have experienced many, many times with lots of different cabs. T18 notorious for it, Martin 215, CV Folded horns even Cubo's.  Seems the driver turns the scoop into something different, or just isn't suited for indoor scoops.  Would be interesting in a 2x18 reflex for a laugh?

I think scoops / horns are more prone to room acoustics and room effects. There will be more cancellation and areas where bass is minimal (compared to a SPL coming from the horn).  Even the floor will act like a horn extension and will make things more complicated compared to reflex subs. 
So for small indoors, reflex / bandbass will do the best.  Large spaces and outdoors, that's where horns will shine.  Even Cubo 15 seems to have difficulties @ small indoors.   


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I think scoops / horns are more prone to room acoustics and room effects. There will be more cancellation and areas where bass is minimal (compared to a SPL coming from the horn).  Even the floor will act like a horn extension and will make things more complicated compared to reflex subs. 
So for small indoors, reflex / bandbass will do the best.  Large spaces and outdoors, that's where horns will shine.  Even Cubo 15 seems to have difficulties @ small indoors.   


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  The Void things at Rogs party seemed to work though, although I was on the balcony...
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Lev, remember the big soundclash, mitchigan vibes, brendon and the third sound using 8 1500i. Remember how much of the hall they covered considering how HUGE that hall was? Considering the size of that hall the driver was definatly throwing
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Originally posted by luton_soundman luton_soundman wrote:

Lev, remember the big soundclash, mitchigan vibes, brendon and the third sound using 8 1500i. Remember how much of the hall they covered considering how HUGE that hall was? Considering the size of that hall the driver was definatly throwing


In Bristol, TweeterBox got the cabs to throw/Move air, but it was mostly 55hz+.

As you know PDs in Shortman mini, effortless throw, even down to 35hz!!!

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I got a bookin in a few weeks, might take my 1500i midis and see how they get on
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Originally posted by luton_soundman luton_soundman wrote:

I got a bookin in a few weeks, might take my 1500i midis and see how they get on


You know which drivers I'm into now.. Have 8x of them !!

Just been offered 4x more!!!  Ermm

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