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Battered ![]() Registered User ![]() Joined: 19 January 2013 Location: S.W. LONDON Status: Offline Points: 461 |
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Is that you Rog?
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Touching cloth at 200 mph
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BigSoundNorthWest ![]() Registered User ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 November 2014 Location: Manchester Status: Offline Points: 279 |
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Here. We. Go.....
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Amgine ![]() New Member ![]() Joined: 16 December 2022 Location: London Status: Offline Points: 1 |
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Hi kinda nice to have just joined.
I must make one thing absolutely clear so there can be no misunderstanding of what I post. I post based on my academic knowledge of Spied Acoustics. Empirical observation I can do by using my ears which although I am an old cantankerous getting closer to death which is a lot closer than birth. I been on this planet for some time now. I should get my OAP bus pass fairly soon. I got Grandkids & and Great grandkids on the way. So please do not for one minute I am a "Hater" a "Troll" Having a different opinion in a situation like this is a bit like being Peer Reviewed Topology analysis is my field. In both Acoustics & Linear Electronics. It took a while but I have studied both academically electronics is not something I do much of nowadays I can hear fine but I have been wearing glass Since age 40 so basically I can see it as well as I did. But I can spot a mishammered Concert grand Apparently that is quite a feat as my internationally renowned piano tuner friend he is in the top 5 for tuning your priceless 400yr old piano type instrument I tell you this so you may understand I can hear very well I have studied the topology of Paraflex I not so au fait which which is which but they function from common principles. So really no differences in them at all from a principle standpoint. It behaves just it's Topology dictates it must. I find most things adhere to that "Form follows Function" Things or devices in this sound as the form dictates. If you have any reservations as to the validity of that I can offer further examples or explanation of this. So Paraflex sound like Paraflex. I have my doubts on the sonic abilities of Paraflex. I would quite like to have the opportunity to try one out at my workshops. I am as I know it would upset people due to their insistent request to base my opinion on actually having heard it. So I will offer no critique until I have This is not really necessary for me but others think it is. But if an observation is offered by the poster on this thread of what he finds. A good design will stand scrutiny. And opinions positive or negative. If banning such people for giving negative just that It does not mean they are "Banned"silenced or disregarded That was Twitter's biggest issue. I make at this point any agreement with anyone. Seems the protocol requires I listen 1st So I will asap I am sure Ben Wells can help there perhaps. And bear in mind the truth is the truth even if it is an uncomfortable one |
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Mark James ![]() Old Croc ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 January 2006 Location: rig side Status: Offline Points: 5304 |
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me so horny me love you long throw
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norty303 ![]() Old Croc ![]() ![]() Joined: 18 August 2004 Location: Eastbourne Status: Offline Points: 8806 |
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Haven't been on the forum in years, come back to ask a simple question and so pleased to see that there are threads like this keeping the old vibe strong
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My laser stuff: Frikkin Lasers
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Battered ![]() Registered User ![]() Joined: 19 January 2013 Location: S.W. LONDON Status: Offline Points: 461 |
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That’s exactly what I thought……along with, any minute now, threats of lawyer involvement will appear.
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Touching cloth at 200 mph
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concept-10 ![]() Young Croc ![]() Joined: 17 May 2016 Status: Offline Points: 1271 |
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Did you get any testing done Kyle ?
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CNC Cabinets
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T Willy ![]() Registered User ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 February 2022 Location: Wisconsin Status: Offline Points: 42 |
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Thank you Toastyghost, I'm not ruling out the possibility of psychoacoustics or cancellations. A legitimate test would be able to determine that. Instead of guesstimates, id like to see something solid. Really appreciate the time spent on this and look forward to your results!
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toastyghost ![]() The 10,000 Points Club ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 January 2007 Location: Manchester Status: Offline Points: 10883 |
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That might be something to do with the rather steep roll-off before the resonant frequency of the tone arm & chamber under the platter ![]() Also there’s a whole wealth of psychoacoustic research and other fields that clearly show we are massively fallible & subject to bias. Particularly in the field of auditory masking, which is literally how lossy audio compression works. I’ve read too many books & spent too many hours on seminars with waaaay smarter folks than I to believe otherwise. Floyd Toole & Sean Olive call this the Circle of Confusion, and I fully recommend everyone interested in sound watch Toole’s presentation on YouTube about this sort of stuff. I also know someone else has measured C2E Silver in equi-temporal alignment from the acoustic centre as I suggested back then, and found the rear rejection to be about the 5 dB I predicted. But since I have four microphones and an audio interface with 8 preamps, why not double check. Edited by toastyghost - 01 December 2022 at 7:53am |
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sushi ![]() Registered User ![]() Joined: 27 March 2012 Location: Milan Status: Offline Points: 85 |
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Great to hear from you Toasty, totally waiting for the results of those measurements. And thank you for sharing the old thread i started almost a year ago, i thought about posting it on this one but got caught in a very busy working period and completely forgot to do it. Very interesting and valuable contribution of yours on that thread, as always!
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BigSoundNorthWest ![]() Registered User ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 November 2014 Location: Manchester Status: Offline Points: 279 |
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I wasn't disagreeing mate, just adding something
You're certainly not wrong
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T Willy ![]() Registered User ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 February 2022 Location: Wisconsin Status: Offline Points: 42 |
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Ok, let me rephrase this. Ears and objects. Ive had turntables placed directly behind the stack with no isolation pads and no issues while everything in front was knocked off shelves and what not. How ever you guys want to perceive this or start a disagreement war like the rest of this thread is, do your thing. But id like to know what the test results find.
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