Sinai RC1

Still going to disagree, ears are *very* easily deceived about level. That’s the whole point of the difference between Magnitude and Loudness

Got nothing useful to add, but I’ve enjoyed reading this thread 

I wasn't disagreeing mate, just adding something

T Willy wrote: Ok, let me rephrase this. Ears and objects. Ive had turntables placed directly behind the stack with no isolation pads and no issues while everything in front was knocked off shelves and what not. How ever you guys want to perceive this or start a disagreement war like the rest of this thread is, do your thing. But id like to know what the test results find.

That might be something to do with the rather steep roll-off before the resonant frequency of the tone arm & chamber under the platter

Also there’s a whole wealth of psychoacoustic research and other fields that clearly show we are massively fallible & subject to bias. Particularly in the field of auditory masking, which is literally how lossy audio compression works. I’ve read too many books & spent too many hours on seminars with waaaay smarter folks than I to believe otherwise. Floyd Toole & Sean Olive call this the Circle of Confusion, and I fully recommend everyone interested in sound watch Toole’s presentation on YouTube about this sort of stuff.

I also know someone else has measured C2E Silver in equi-temporal alignment from the acoustic centre as I suggested back then, and found the rear rejection to be about the 5 dB I predicted. But since I have four microphones and an audio interface with 8 preamps, why not double check.

Edited by toastyghost - 01 December 2022 at 7:53am

toastyghost wrote: Just a small update; T Willy has kindly shared his measurement data with me, and I’ve given it a look over. There are some trends present that I expected to see, but I want to gather my own data before drawing any conclusions. Luckily, that might well be happening this weekend so… watch this space Edit: in the meantime, some folk might have missed the discussion & modelling I did on the big boy Paraflex back at the start of this year. Here’s that old thread: https://forum.speakerplans.com/skram-vs-c2e-subwoofers-info-research_topic106775.html

Haven't been on the forum in years, come back to ask a simple question and so pleased to see that there are threads like this keeping the old vibe strong

Almost brings a tear to the eye....

Almost