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    Posted: 02 January 2019 at 12:38pm
where’s the best place to buy them , need lots of it and mainly 419 if possible 
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We’ve got a bunch of Sommer’s Hi-Con SOCAPEX and it’s been fine for years of regular use.
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How many do you need & what is your timescale. I could do you a quote to build them for you.
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No not at all, every lighting company I know has used them for the last thirty plus years. Even with LED is the only sensible way to get electrics on to trusses without needing a distro
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Pasi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 January 2019 at 9:49pm
Originally posted by efinque efinque wrote:

Originally posted by haymere haymere wrote:

No not at all, every lighting company I know has used them for the last thirty plus years. Even with LED is the only sensible way to get electrics on to trusses without needing a distro

Iirc a theater light set controller at my school used one.. I could remember wrong though. The only time I've seen/heard them used outside the army.

Very robust exterior.. very fragile connector pins on the inside. Thick cable, must be a nightmare to service. We had ours usually colour coded with spots to mark the correct alignment. They require a fair amount of power to push together which could damage the pins, I think the insulator is plastic or bakelite; sort of like a field version of COM.

I thought many would use DMX or something for lights.


If you don't know, why don't you ask? Would be far better way to learn something.

Socapex is for power distribution

DMX is a control signal, low voltage.

= Why would DMX use socapex?


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Well, despite this opening yet another efinque can of worms... socapex is used for many line array speaker distribution systems now, with fan outs to CA-COM, NL8, etc. But maybe it’s better to say it’s for ‘high voltage’ systems.

And they’re only fragile pins if you’re a fat handed lazy tw*t who can’t make the locating pin mate. In which case, I feel sorry for your girlfriend...

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Pasi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 January 2019 at 10:56pm
Originally posted by toastyghost toastyghost wrote:


And they’re only fragile pins if you’re a fat handed lazy tw*t who can’t make the locating pin mate. In which case, I feel sorry for your girlfriend...


Now you are assuming that there is a girlfriend...
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Originally posted by Pasi Pasi wrote:

Originally posted by toastyghost toastyghost wrote:


And they’re only fragile pins if you’re a fat handed lazy tw*t who can’t make the locating pin mate. In which case, I feel sorry for your girlfriend...


Now you are assuming that there is a girlfriend...
Don’t think there’s a girlfriend, man just a "I like to play with myself", he should get a new hobby, maybe fixing microwaves 
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Originally posted by efinque efinque wrote:

I thought they were mainly for military use?


yeah as Kyle says they're used all the time when you need a multicore cable that is running "power" level signals rather than normal mic/line/signal level multi's.

So running multiple power feeds up to lighting bar/truss obviously, running many channels of amplified signal up to line array hangs or to banks of subwoofers, running a big bunch of monitor feeds to a particular side or area of stage.

As said, usually run on socapex and then a set of tails or breakout box on the end will turn it back into whatever connection is needed: powercon, 16a, NL4, NL8 etc. 

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Originally posted by efinque efinque wrote:

I thought they were mainly for military use?

EDIT : I just googled it (also known as Amphenol), we used those in army radios.. any sand etc in the grooves and they won't screw in, especially in the dark. Helps if you moisten the O-ring.

EDIT 2 : sorry, I'm not really helping.. but army could in some instances sell their surplus, or if you know someone from the inside.
You were in the army? You had a gun?
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Originally posted by Father-Francis Father-Francis wrote:

Don’t think there’s a girlfriend, man just a "I like to play with myself", he should get a new hobby, maybe fixing microwaves 

I'm not the one using an ad hominem.

Originally posted by kevinmcdonough kevinmcdonough wrote:

yeah as Kyle says they're used all the time when you need a multicore cable that is running "power" level signals rather than normal mic/line/signal level multi's.

So running multiple power feeds up to lighting bar/truss obviously, running many channels of amplified signal up to line array hangs or to banks of subwoofers, running a big bunch of monitor feeds to a particular side or area of stage.

As said, usually run on socapex and then a set of tails or breakout box on the end will turn it back into whatever connection is needed: powercon, 16a, NL4, NL8 etc. 

K

We used them between a radio and a message device running a microprocessor (it's actually the predecessor of text message/SMS) as well as loading encryption/decryption codes to the radios..  when I was in service a USB adapter device that connects to a laptop was developed and we were issued them (they had their quirks though)
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