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Changes will occur in 2012, but more will be revealed once we have fully trashed out all the options.

Feel free to air your opinions!!!
 
Right now, though our attention is on 6 november.
An interesting sound lineup!!!
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Originally posted by MotioN54SOLO MotioN54SOLO wrote:

Okay the MotioN54 squad have been having this discussion for couple of days bringing a element of competition into the SOUND-OFF not only is it a chance for a sound to blow off steam at full volume but to expand the next person into music he / she is unfamiliar with, there are hundreds of thousands of choons to be played not only to be playing Prophecy or Famine but starting from January there will be a next level being introduced to the SOUND-OFF as we want to get sounds back in the arena and not just waiting for "Carnival" wether Birmingham,Luton,Bristol or Notting Hill etc however not everyone will be able to afford to cut dubplates so this is about musical knowledge and quality of soundsystem so in 2012 let the games begin

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Well done Motion 54, lets hope next year its a 6 or 8 scoop ting, that way we can separate the big sounds from the up and coming one with only 4 scoops !

Or at least have one off events for 6 or 8 scoops throughout the year. A clash ting will just become negative imo as there are a number of sounds cutting plenty dubs but there sound isnt worth a quatty. As Judge Dredd said earlier, get your sound to sound right first, and then cut some dubs. Bless up.
   
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Okay the MotioN54 squad have been having this discussion for couple of days bringing a element of competition into the SOUND-OFF not only is it a chance for a sound to blow off steam at full volume but to expand the next person into music he / she is unfamiliar with, there are hundreds of thousands of choons to be played not only to be playing Prophecy or Famine but starting from January there will be a next level being introduced to the SOUND-OFF as we want to get sounds back in the arena and not just waiting for "Carnival" wether Birmingham,Luton,Bristol or Notting Hill etc however not everyone will be able to afford to cut dubplates so this is about musical knowledge and quality of soundsystem so in 2012 let the games begin

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interesting thread to read..... no real need for judges unless its summit like best new entertainer as usually u can jus use your own ears. everybodys there to have a good time, to hear music they love ... always the added bonus of ''OOOoooo havent heard this tune before!?'' too or ''s#it me, didn't expect that!''

.... whatever happens, matters not....... lot of good people pulling together to make sure theres a little relief from the rat race.

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Originally posted by JudgeDredd JudgeDredd wrote:

Originally posted by QSS QSS wrote:

I personally think there is room for both formats to work.
We have been doing sounchecks for a while now, so most sounds should know where they stand so maybe it's time for some more serious sound clashesBig smile


Sorry but don't agree.

Some sounds are just not good enough yet to talk about clashing with anyone. So now instead of improving their sound quality and investing in quality cabs and amps, they'll be spending $$$ getting dubplates, and blowing drivers when they try to blast them. Mykey just mash up the vibe with his 1 post.

If I want to hear sound clash, I'll go hear WSP, Shanti, JTS, Operation,JV, Kibir, EQ, Bosrah, Touch Above or similiar level. Because they know soundsystems, and machine is ready for war.

Thought these soundcheck events were about upcoming sounds getting ready for next level.
 
Yes I agree that some of the sounds are not quite ready for the big league as yet, but I have
heard a few sounds in the soundchecks that would give some of the so called big sounds a run for their money.
I'm not saying to stop the sounchecks, HELL NO! All I'm saying is lets have some events where we
step up the game up a gear or twoWink 


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Originally posted by QSS QSS wrote:

I personally think there is room for both formats to work.
We have been doing sounchecks for a while now, so most sounds should know where they stand so maybe it's time for some more serious sound clashesBig smile


Sorry but don't agree.

Some sounds are just not good enough yet to talk about clashing with anyone. So now instead of improving their sound quality and investing in quality cabs and amps, they'll be spending $$$ getting dubplates, and blowing drivers when they try to blast them. Mykey just mash up the vibe with his 1 post.

If I want to hear sound clash, I'll go hear WSP, Shanti, JTS, Operation,JV, Kibir, EQ, Bosrah, Touch Above or similiar level. Because they know soundsystems, and machine is ready for war.

Thought these soundcheck events were about upcoming sounds getting ready for next level.


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Originally posted by mykey- mykey- wrote:

from very small children we're brainwashed in to competing Judgedread. In the back of the minds of these for sounds is what they would be thinking no?


So you're a mind reader now ? You have'nt been to "one" of those events, yet you know what soundman playing there are thinking?

If you took the time to read into the history of RicenPeas, then SoundSystem Soundoff, it is easily recognisable Soundsystem soundoff was more  about lesser known sounds getting an opportunity to give their systems a "stretch out", in an atmosphere, where crowd was mostly sound people, as opposed to dance goers.



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I personally think there is room for both formats to work.
We have been doing sounchecks for a while now, so most sounds should know where they stand so maybe it's time for some more serious sound clashesBig smile
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However these event are run there will always be an ellement of competition, but it can be done in a constructive way.
The way these events are run now where the punters which include other respected soundmen and engineers make there observations and give there suggestions on the forum or to the sounds personally on where and how a sound can improve is fine imo.
 
Once we begin to intruduce official judges in anyway it then becomes a clash.
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from very small children we're brainwashed in to competing Judgedread. In the back of the minds of these for sounds is what they would be thinking no?




Edited by mykey- - 21 October 2011 at 3:35pm
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Originally posted by ras i ras i wrote:

Originally posted by JudgeDredd JudgeDredd wrote:

Personally don't think they should be upgraded to Sound clash status. As I know that will lead to "bare ego bizniz",  and infinite number of "artist specials" being played.

"Maybe" each soundcheck could be judged on,

1)Presentation
2)Weight, Mids, Tops, Sizzle (LOL), how well sound fills the venue?
3)Music
4)Amount of equipment used - Cabs+Amps+Outboard - Less is more points ?
5)Promptness, Professionalism, Crowd entertainment


Isn't that a soundclash then?Confused  As long as the sounds will be judged and a rating given or a winner picked then that will be a clash.


I didn't mention anything about a winner or clash. Is Mykey started that foolishness (as usual instigating strife & contention). Along with getting the crowd to vote.. <facepalm>

IMHO, clash is primarily for the benefit of the crowd.

Thought soundcheck was primarily for sounds who don't play that often, to try/tune up their system in public, with other sounds present.

Judges making decision about which sound overall did the best on day, encourages them in their quest, and provides the other sounds valuable input from experts. Clash does'nt do any of this.
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Yes I agree with ras I. As long as there is judging becomes a competition so it is a soundclash.
 
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