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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 December 2012 at 8:14pm
Originally posted by Tony Wilkes Tony Wilkes wrote:

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Unfortunately, you can't trust the Business ethic from the Chinese. Whatever they do in terms of ripping people off, they think it's just normal practice, and they will never think any differently. They don't have any respect for each other, never mind the rest of us.


Tony, I agree that a lot of Chinese companies behave pretty badly, however the two companies that I regularly do business with have behaved impeccably in fact far better than a few highly respected British companies I could mention.

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Chinese companies start off being very polite and proper, and when I was selling them equipment by the container load, all the while the money was coming in, things were fine. I was dealing the big names in Panu City. But at any time they can change direction. There is no loyalty with them. There's quite a difference between buying from them when you will always have their attention, and selling to them, when they will want to screw you into the ground after you've done the deal. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 January 2013 at 2:32am
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Chinese companies start off being very polite and proper, and when I was selling them equipment by the container load, all the while the money was coming in, things were fine. I was dealing the big names in Panu City. But at any time they can change direction. There is no loyalty with them. There's quite a difference between buying from them when you will always have their attention, and selling to them, when they will want to screw you into the ground after you've done the deal. 


Tony, Only ever purchased from them so cannot comment on selling to them, would have to bow to your personal knowledge on this.

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yes, 10's available

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Mykey, could you publish plots for the PD123ER & PD121?

They are very mainstream drivers, used by many MT121 users. Wink
Trouble is Ray, I can't get hold of drivers like that here. Will have to wait till get back. That graph was with the Paudio driver that yu have just recently sold.
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Plus a graph may look good with a PD121 but it won't tell you how it sounds. PD121 wouldn't even be my last choice for a midrange horn. Trust me, been there done all the testing. B&C PE32 from Tony is what you need.

I have never heard a PD123ER so I can't comment on that.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 January 2013 at 12:28pm
Originally posted by mykey- mykey- wrote:

Plus a graph may look good with a PD121 but it won't tell you how it sounds. PD121 wouldn't even be my last choice for a midrange horn. Trust me, been there done all the testing. B&C PE32 from Tony is what you need.

I have never heard a PD123ER so I can't comment on that.


Yes, heard good things about B&C PE32, but won't be buying them mate.

Some of us already have PD, Fane, Celestion drivers, they work very well for the price in MT121, so no need to splurge on anything more costly, as they don't earn you any more money.




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 January 2013 at 4:22am
Paudio sound great in them.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 January 2013 at 12:19pm

we do not make the copy after no authorization letter from the customers ,and if for the copy ,there must some different from the brand products ,we do not do the same .You can check our products is have different back panel for the others brand products ,those technology is different from the others .the core technology is from our engineer design ,not the copy .

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How many designs have you taken from speakerplans?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 January 2013 at 12:33pm
Tony ,i do not know why you have the complaint for Chinese company ,but i must said to you ,there will be some good companies with the good principle for  business ,also there is some bad  .I think you do not need to complaint all .i do not think there is no one as the same company like your complaint in your country .
 
 
 
 
 
Originally posted by TONY.A.S.S. TONY.A.S.S. wrote:

Originally posted by Tony Wilkes Tony Wilkes wrote:

Originally posted by TONY.A.S.S. TONY.A.S.S. wrote:

Unfortunately, you can't trust the Business ethic from the Chinese. Whatever they do in terms of ripping people off, they think it's just normal practice, and they will never think any differently. They don't have any respect for each other, never mind the rest of us.


Tony, I agree that a lot of Chinese companies behave pretty badly, however the two companies that I regularly do business with have behaved impeccably in fact far better than a few highly respected British companies I could mention.

Tony W

Chinese companies start off being very polite and proper, and when I was selling them equipment by the container load, all the while the money was coming in, things were fine. I was dealing the big names in Panu City. But at any time they can change direction. There is no loyalty with them. There's quite a difference between buying from them when you will always have their attention, and selling to them, when they will want to screw you into the ground after you've done the deal. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 January 2013 at 12:36pm
we do the simliar ,but no the copy ,and mostly products design are from the customers design .after the customers request and design ,we will asked the engineer to make the feasibility products .
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Originally posted by levyte357- levyte357- wrote:

Originally posted by mykey- mykey- wrote:

Plus a graph may look good with a PD121 but it won't tell you how it sounds. PD121 wouldn't even be my last choice for a midrange horn. Trust me, been there done all the testing. B&C PE32 from Tony is what you need.

I have never heard a PD123ER so I can't comment on that.


Yes, heard good things about B&C PE32, but won't be buying them mate.

Some of us already have PD, Fane, Celestion drivers, they work very well for the price in MT121, so no need to splurge on anything more costly, as they don't earn you any more money.





u said Celestion drivers which one u talking about
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Originally posted by t.geessounds t.geessounds wrote:

Originally posted by levyte357- levyte357- wrote:

Originally posted by mykey- mykey- wrote:

Plus a graph may look good with a PD121 but it won't tell you how it sounds. PD121 wouldn't even be my last choice for a midrange horn. Trust me, been there done all the testing. B&C PE32 from Tony is what you need.

I have never heard a PD123ER so I can't comment on that.


Yes, heard good things about B&C PE32, but won't be buying them mate.

Some of us already have PD, Fane, Celestion drivers, they work very well for the price in MT121, so no need to splurge on anything more costly, as they don't earn you any more money.





u said Celestion drivers which one u talking about


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