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    Posted: 12 July 2005 at 5:06pm

The cutout sheet doesn't say if its in mm or cm or inches?????

Also where can I get 15mm birch ply at the cheapest price????

And as I can't afford a tablesaw so can I use a special mitre circular saw with a workbench instead???

Last but not least what do you use to seal around the joints and flare in the punisher??? silicon sealent??? Cos I do NOT want air leaks vus making it sound crap and damaging the driver.

 

 

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wicked news dude. don't rush to finish them, take your time with EACH
panel and only cut when you are certain. measure twice, cut once, as they
say... the plans for the punisher are in cm except for some measurements
in mm which are clearly marked.

a nice circular saw and a couple of clamps are all you need to do most of
the work. use a known straight edge like an original edge of an 8x4
sheet. mark all of your lines with a sharp dark pencil as accurately as
humanly possible, check them lots of times at lots of points along their
length.

using some scrap wood, work out how far the saw cuts from the guided
edge on both an inside (with the guide on the piece you are keeping) and
out side (on the piece you're cutting off, the difference between being the
thickness of the blade plus general waggle). clamp your guide on at the
correct distance away from your line, check it again, and make a little
exploratory nick with your saw. if all looks good, proceed.

building my mt122 type things every piece took a long time. every time i
got frustrated trying to get the guide in exactly the right place and just
cut it anyway the bits that were even 0.25mm out were a pain in the ass
to fit.

with pieces cut really nicely and sensible glueing you shouldn't find you
even need sealant, but any kind of non-shrinking caulk could be used if
you were worried i suppose. get as many sections cut at the timber yard
on a frame saw as possible, if you get cut all the sections that sit between
the side panels with the same saw setting you need only cut/mitre them
to length and you know the sides will go an perfectly.

the punisher is a very complicated box, take your time and keep checking
everything. i haven't built that many boxes and get succesively better with
each attempt, i just about feel up to a punisher now, because even
though i considered stuff like that feasible in the early days i don't think
i'd have done that good a job because i hadn't discovered the whole
circular saw, guide and pair of clamps revelation.

james.
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Are they much harder to build than scoops???? Because scoop bins is the most complex I built so far.
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Originally posted by james, ind.st james, ind.st wrote:


using some scrap wood, work out how far the saw cuts from the guided edge on both an inside (with the guide on the piece you are keeping) and out side (on the piece you're cutting off, the difference between being the thickness of the blade plus general waggle). clamp your guide on at the correct distance away from your line, check it again, and make a little exploratory nick with your saw. if all looks good, proceed. 

Even better - get piece of 18mm mdf or ply about 6" wide with a straight edge.  Fasten that to a piece of 6mm mdf or ply about 12" wide. (but at least as wide again as the base plate of your saw...

Now run the circular saw's base plate against the straight edge of the 18mm and cut through the 6mm ply.

You now have a straight edge correctly spaced for your saw...  Line the cut line up along the cut edge of the 6mm, clamp it down, and run the saw along the 18mm straight edge for a perfect cut...

Make yourself a 2 foot one, a 4 foot one and another one with a batten across the bottom set at 90 degrees to the cut edge for cutting square... 

Or buy a table saw...

There's at least one mitre over 45 degrees which isn't too easy with a circular saw...

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How are the HD215s coming along Dom? How many have you built / do you use?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dom Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 July 2005 at 7:22pm

Have 4 built at the moment, will be knocking up another couple when I can be arsed...

Just finished some X1 variants which sit underneath them - I'll take some pictures tomorrow... 

But been sidetracked building cabs for some trance boy recently...

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Originally posted by Dom Dom wrote:

Even better - get piece of 18mm mdf or ply about
6" wide with a straight edge.  Fasten that to a piece of 6mm mdf or ply
about 12" wide. (but at least as wide again as the base plate of your saw...


Now run the circular saw's base plate against the straight edge of the
18mm and cut through the 6mm ply.


You now have a straight edge correctly spaced for your saw...  Line the
cut line up along the cut edge of the 6mm, clamp it down, and run the
saw along the 18mm straight edge for a perfect cut...


Make yourself a 2 foot one, a 4 foot one and another one with a batten
across the bottom set at 90 degrees to the cut edge for cutting
square... 


Or buy a table saw...


There's at least one mitre over 45 degrees which isn't too easy with a
circular saw...



you absolute genious. i am dumbfounded by the simplicity.

you have changed my life.... I LOVE YOU!

james.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Joe Grime Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 July 2005 at 3:43am

Here Here,

Great tip Dom, simlpicity in itself.

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Dom wrote:

Even better - get piece of 18mm mdf or ply about
6" wide with a straight edge.  Fasten that to a piece of 6mm mdf or ply
about 12" wide. (but at least as wide again as the base plate of your saw...

Now run the circular saw's base plate against the straight edge of the
18mm and cut through the 6mm ply.

You now have a straight edge correctly spaced for your saw...  Line the
cut line up along the cut edge of the 6mm, clamp it down, and run the
saw along the 18mm straight edge for a perfect cut...


Make yourself a 2 foot one, a 4 foot one and another one with a batten
across the bottom set at 90 degrees to the cut edge for cutting
square...

Or buy a table saw...

There's at least one mitre over 45 degrees which isn't too easy with a
circular saw...


Hey Dom, have you a spanish translation for what you said  

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never thought of doing that before, what a brilliant idea.  was that something discovered through experiment, or one of these mystical secrets, which everyone except me know about.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Centauri Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 July 2005 at 8:41pm
It's called a Sawboard - they have been around for a while, and there are plans and suggestions for them all over the net.  I have also made one for my router - makes dado joints a breeze.

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