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Hugo Biermann 
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 Posted: 30 January 2008 at 11:46am |
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What are you guys shouting about? He gives you all th settings for your controller anyways!!
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mykey
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Posted: 30 January 2008 at 11:36am |
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next time use your own gear and laptop, see what happens
wasn't there some magic tricks done at the show with the new bass bins?
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adambomb
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Posted: 30 January 2008 at 11:33am |
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Heathrow_B_line
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Posted: 30 January 2008 at 11:17am |
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if Rog really wanted to mess about with the results he could have done so anytime because he was doing the measuring and had the plots. this is going down a path i dont want to be involved in so i shall leave you guys to it.
ps. with all the tweaking / playing with delays / eq.. do the bokes sound decent now?
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adambomb
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Posted: 30 January 2008 at 11:11am |
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Have you measured that then? Bet they don't!
I said they sound beautiful.. and they do, at whatever distance... all I'm saying is if Rog (or any speaker designer) had any brain they would design the cab to plot perfectly at 1m as that's what all the manufacturers specs use... It's like 0-60 times on cars and the long 2nd gear most cars now have (so you can get to 60 with only one gear change, hence giving a more impressive figure)... it's a marketing trick that anyone would employ.
Digidrive.. has presets for the porn which have probably had hours and hours tweaking / measuring / tweaking time... you think Rog didn't use them??? Seriously? They day turned into a porn sales demo really.. be honest.
I got far better plots out of the MA912s on a later measuing session with much more tweaking / playing with delays / eq.
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Heathrow_B_line
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Posted: 30 January 2008 at 11:03am |
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try giving them a proper listen, you will find they give a flat response at 1m or 10m....
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Heathrow_B_line
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Posted: 30 January 2008 at 11:02am |
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i would trust Rog to do what he says hes doing
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adambomb
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Posted: 30 January 2008 at 10:58am |
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exactly... great distances / higher power are far better / closer to true performance.
I'm not saying the porn will be bad plot wise (listening wise it's beautiful).. but I bet it was designed to give a flat response at 1m for marketing purposes.
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tb_mike
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Posted: 30 January 2008 at 2:03am |
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Tom danley measures his basshorns at 10metres with ~100w input. This will give you some real world distortion levels rather than dainty 2.83volts etc. The plot will change everytime you move 2cms in the HF.Think of how large the wavelengths are,and the interferences that can occur between drivers.Hopefully they are cohesive. There are many links online about how to measure properly. |
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adambomb
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Posted: 28 January 2008 at 9:18am |
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Hmm... funny how the porn got almost the same plot at the mid / top clash with apparently no EQ... should never have used Rog's Digi drive.. too open to messing... still a good plot tho even with EQ.
Anyways... I'm near Bath (Frome) if anyone has an Xtro in the area...
The other thing is... we did the plots @ 1m... now, thinking about it, for a horn loaded mid top this is a stupid way to measure, we should have done the plots at 2m / 4m / 8m.. would have given a far more repesentitve plot (you can design a box to perform perfectly at 1m but what does it plot like at greater distances!?!?!)
Anyways.. lemme know.
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Jhodas
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Posted: 28 January 2008 at 7:59am |
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http://www.proaudioparts.co.uk/pdf/phornplot1.pdf
The porn plot has EQ on it. Dunno about the stasys. |
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tb_mike
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Posted: 27 January 2008 at 2:39am |
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Exactly.Everything needs context. 1/24th octave resolution,sampling frequency,averaging, measurement conditions. Take a look at the turbosound aspect measurements,heaps of wiggles,makes me think of less averaging. HARMAN(jbl)measure their consumer speakers in basically every direction and average the results to get the speaker response,removing measurement artifacts. go to their site,whitepapers. |
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