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Originally posted by Raja Raja wrote:

Yeh PKN is available in INDIA With service & Support. But i have small doubt, Can i use it For Roadshows & with out earth point. Is it safe?

Without earth point and safe don't really go together as can't think of a single high power amp that is double insulated, I think a call to any of the manufacturers would end pretty quickly when asked that unless you mean without a signal ground, if main power ground then no no and no, ever.
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Powersoft, Crown, Labgruppen, PKN, QSC & tons of Chinese amps.
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Originally posted by Raja Raja wrote:

Powersoft, Crown, Labgruppen, PKN, QSC & tons of Chinese amps.
Powersoft are pretty good. K20 should do the job. 
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Do you know earth point is not mandatory for K20 or not?
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Originally posted by Raja Raja wrote:

Do you know earth point is not mandatory for K20 or not?

From the Powersoft K20 user manual:

WARNING: TO PREVENT FIRE OR ELECTRIC SHOCK
f This device must be powered exclusively by earth con-
nected mains sockets in electrical networks compliant 
to the IEC 364 or similar rules.

May I suggest that you buy or hire a  high end generator and an earth stake. Have it set up by a competent electrician.  Take a look at what generators are being used in europe for events as should give you an idea of what is suitable.
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Mostly I use generator. And i want to use it for Roadshows.
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Originally posted by Raja Raja wrote:

Mostly I use generator. And i want to use it for Roadshows.
In that case look up ground stakes... and a tip somebody gave me years ago...

Drive the stake down as far as you can and before connecting it to the genny.... piss on it!! ALL over the ground and on the stake itself. Helps "bond" the stake to the ground.

THEN And only after you're done pissing... hook it up to the genny.
If it sounds like a gorilla is trying to escape, turn it down.
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^mods.....^

Iris, this isn't a sales forum, so please don't post direct adverts, especially for what are quite clearly unlicensed copies of Lab Gruppen amplifiers. 

Raja, I second what everyone else has said about earthing - there is *no* situation where it is safe to run a soundsystem from mains power without an earth connection. If someone wants you to do an outdoor event where it is not possible to make an earth connection, just say no!

And probably don't buy copied amplifiers, if you have enough budget for legitimate units.
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I am hate those copied products a lot. I always prefer quality. And can you tell me how can i upload pictures here. tried a lot but couldn't upload.
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Road show in terms of those trucks like they use it in Pune?
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Yes something like that. I want to use those amp mostly for live shows where earth point is possible. but i want to know those amps are suitable for roadshows where earth point is not possible or not. follow this link to know what i exactly want to say.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zkA6U_c2vM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7gR-k60BiY&t=59s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAg8c8VuJ4I
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Consult your local electric technican/experts prior killing anyone.
Protective earthing is mandatory in all of these kind of equipment,
it does not mean moving or not!
There are adequate methods to establish safe high-power mobile operations like those on the video above.
Please consult electric technician for the proper design!
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