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ok thanks for answer ,look's very nice ... ;)
how a guy can sleep inside ?? lolol
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that's my friend Kev at frenchtek this year.
 
You can see the mattress he has in there, it damps the vibrations and its actually pretty comfortable. I would wear ear plugs or defenders but at some parties it's by far the most comfortable and safe place to sleep.
me so horny, me love you long throw.
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call me stupid, but where's the HF in that system above?
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it make me smile seeing people sleep in bass cabs, iv had a few peeps in my scoops at house parties over the years, LOL nutters

ye i was also thinking that Mykey, unless its some sort of point source horn in the upper part of the horn,  i hope these are the Mid/top plans we were promised by Panoramix..
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Originally posted by login4 login4 wrote:

it make me smile seeing people sleep in bass cabs, iv had a few peeps in my scoops at house parties over the years, LOL nutters

ye i was also thinking that Mykey, unless its some sort of point source horn in the upper part of the horn,  i hope these are the Mid/top plans we were promised by Panoramix..
 
yes but mr startec have now put this speaker in his brand (because he had put many time in it and was really happy with the results) and sell it allready make or as the porn horn you can buy it and make by yourself ,i think a pair is about 700/800 euro all finished ,i will put more info soon.
it's a HP PHL12" hornloaded , coaxial hornloaded 6.5"(phl)+1"(bms) with phase plug
 
here's a picture:



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Hi
 
Take a look at what Startec wrote about that SBH:
 
"Startec" a écrit :

 
Notez que j'ai un joker, 
une sorte d'arme fatale quelque part dans un tiroir; 
32oo watts, 112 dB 1/w/m 3o à 125 Hz à -6 dB ( et c'est pas des chiffres en l'air )....... 
Simple  
Un vrai pavillon de 3 mètres avec le bon HP ! 
 
j'ai le plan (il serait nécessaire de le refaire car plus très lisible pour être scanné) 
C'est prévu spécifiquement pour un HP PHL 18 " (faut que je retrouve la référence sur une facture ça date déjà) 
le caisson de base fait 12ox95x52 cm , pavillon conique hyperbolique de 3m. 
4o>15o Hz, 1o7 dB( FC 57 Hz en 1/2 Lamda) 
Usage par 4 descend sous les 3o Hz. 
 
Ce super basse, extrêmement puissant, 
à été réalisé pour un HP PHL; 
ce composant étant une fabrication spéciale, il n'est disponible que sur commande avec une quantité minimum!!!! 
Personnellement, je n'ai pas envie d'investir des milliers d'€ pour stocker uniquement ce HP. 
 
Une modification est possible pour recevoir un RCF N4O1, HP qui se rapproche le plus, du HP Original ( mais avec 2-3 dB en moins toutes fois). 
 
voici ce fameux sub corrigé pour le RCFN184o1. 
Comme toujours chez moi, c'est assez simple à construire, bien qu'il y ai des découpes à angles. 
Je préconise l'usage de bouleau de 18mm (renforcé de 12mm pour la porte c'est important!!!) 
Le type d'expansion n'est pas courant ; l'objectif était d'obtenir un peu d'infra d'une seule caisse d'où la finalisation hyperbolique très marquée en sortie 
Ce pavillon descend à 4o Hz , 
par 4 sous les 3o Hz probablement 25-28 Hz avec le RCF vu les specs. 
( des mesures ont été faites à l'époque, avec le 18" PHL désigné, malheureusement, ces notes ne sont plus disponibles)

 
See also the builder resting after work:
 
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Quote i think a pair is about 700/800 euro all finished


I need some more info on these tops - they seem to fill a much desired area in the market. I want some especially at that price!

The terra horn is a beauty - from a construction point of view, and im sure its performance is matched - but i really hate those bar handles - routed or bars but not both, ruins the original top notch construction i recons (not that it matters).
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Hi
Another builder apparently in love with Startec SBH:
 
 
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Note that I have a joker, a sort of fatal weapon somewhere in a drawer; 32OO watts, 112 dB 1/w/m 3O to 125 Hz to -6 dB (and this is not figures in the air )......  Simple A true house of 3 meters with the good HP!  I have the plan (it would be necessary to remake it for more more more very more legible to be scanné)
THIS is foreseen specifically for a HP PHL 18 "(is necessary that I rediscover the reference on a bill that already dates) basic chamber done 12ox95x52 cm, hyperbolical conical house of 3M.  4o>15o Hz, 1o7 dB (FC 57 Hz in 1/2 Lamda) Usage by 4 descendant under the 3O Hz.  This great low one, extremely powerful, to
realized summer for a HP PHL; this component being a special manufacture, it is not available that on orders with a quantity minimum! !!!  Personally, I do not want to invest thousands of € to stock only this HP. 

 
A modification is possible to receive a RCF N4O1, HP that compares itself the more, Original HP (but with 2-3 dB in less all time).  Here this fine corrected sub for the RCFN184o1.  As always at my place, this is rather simple to construct, although there let us are cuts to angles.  I recommend the usage of birch of 18MM (reinforced by 12MM for the door it is important! !!)  The expansion type is not current; the objective was to obtain a little infra of a single cash register from which the hyperbolical very marked finalisation in exit This house descends to 4O Hz, by 4 under the 3O Hz probably 25-28 Hz with the RCF seen the specs.  (measures were done to the era, with the 18" designated PHL, unfortunately, these grades no longer are available)


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The name of these bass horns speaks for itself... SUPERB BASS HORN...
A really Superb Design by Mr Startec.. hope we could have more of his great works specially His midtops..Wink

Hi Myke, now I'm a bit confused on which of his two designs i would start to build.. the Hybrid Horn or these SBH. I will be using HDF cause Birch Ply is not available in our place, wish they could have here in our place Unhappy, and these would be really bloody heavy for HDF material. Need to import those birch from China or maybe in your place which is not practical on my part...





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If your only going to build a few then go for the SBH, for shear SPL and controlled low end
 
if your going to build allot more then go for the hybrid
 
What ply do you have there, can you get 9ply? you must have a marine ply there?
 
HDF will weigh a tonne if you build that SBH
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Looking at the first post, King Earthquake comes to mind.
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