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Classic case of drapes absorbing the bass

ie bit like to much wadding in speaker boxs imho

dont belive all that drape bizzness tbh
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Originally posted by Dub Specialist Sound Dub Specialist Sound wrote:

Classic case of drapes absorbing the bass

ie bit like to much wadding in speaker boxs imho

dont belive all that drape bizzness tbh
 

been listening/playing heavy roots/reggae stacks for donkeys years, never no drapes

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Originally posted by cookie-dj cookie-dj wrote:

Had the small rig out again a couple of weekends ago.
The venue was a heavily draped large marquee, with a relatively small dance floor area.
Acoustically the worst sounding room I have played in! I thought drapes were meant to improve sound?!
I was set up in a corner to try and make the most of the sound. The bass was heavy at the DJ controls but Didnt sound as heavy stood in front of the speakers. The tops were way too bright (brighter than usual) and were turned right down. Anyone have any explanations?


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Originally posted by cookie-dj cookie-dj wrote:

The Tham doesn't need delaying, everything is delayed to the Tham


As cookie suggests. quite sensitive to it being correct or its like adding room adjustment. Can hear the bass sound like its being moved away from the bin. Top also gets a lot brighter when its out.
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Originally posted by cookie-dj cookie-dj wrote:


Last nights engagement party in Wednesbury.
The system sounded beautiful, the tops were as smooth as silk and the bass was round and heavy.
Nothing but compliments on the looks and sound of them.
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Looking really good Cookie. Are they the intended top hats on the thams?
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They aren't. The top hats you drilled were too small, I tried to bore it out to fit, but the damage caused by
A) not having a pillar drill (or required steady hands) to drill a hole saw perfect central of the existing hole
B) cutting holes in finished cabs is not smart anyway

So I thought if I fit some external top hats fitted with insert nuts, it would be the best thing.
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Originally posted by cookie-dj cookie-dj wrote:

They aren't. The top hats you drilled were too small, I tried to bore it out to fit, but the damage caused by
A) not having a pillar drill (or required steady hands) to drill a hole saw perfect central of the existing hole
B) cutting holes in finished cabs is not smart anyway

So I thought if I fit some external top hats fitted with insert nuts, it would be the best thing.


was it the diameter of pole that was too small for the weight of the midtop so larger top hat used? Yeah not an easy job to do and there's a cutout in the brace at 90 degrees to the hole and the same width so that would have needed widening too.

Solution looks good tho and sturdier. It doesn't look as though it would have been possible to get that top hat in anyway, it looks too deep so would have hit a baffle.

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Originally posted by Dub Specialist Sound Dub Specialist Sound wrote:

Classic case of drapes absorbing the bass

ie bit like to much wadding in speaker boxs imho

dont belive all that drape bizzness tbh


its all about the drapes LOL  the venue we used to do our nites in had drapes inside apparantly to keep the sound in  nuff times had noise problems cuz of shaking up the car park , hotel  upstairs the whole buildin all the windows in the houses on  the  next road LOL  i dont know wot the drapes were doin !!  LOL
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Originally posted by SouthwestCNC SouthwestCNC wrote:

Originally posted by cookie-dj cookie-dj wrote:

They aren't. The top hats you drilled were too small, I tried to bore it out to fit, but the damage caused by
A) not having a pillar drill (or required steady hands) to drill a hole saw perfect central of the existing hole
B) cutting holes in finished cabs is not smart anyway

So I thought if I fit some external top hats fitted with insert nuts, it would be the best thing.


was it the diameter of pole that was too small for the weight of the midtop so larger top hat used? Yeah not an easy job to do and there's a cutout in the brace at 90 degrees to the hole and the same width so that would have needed widening too.

Solution looks good tho and sturdier. It doesn't look as though it would have been possible to get that top hat in anyway, it looks too deep so would have hit a baffle.


Very sturdy indeed. I just foam gasketed the external pole mount to seal the hole and used some nice Allen bolts. The hole cut out was the same O.D as the 35mm speaker pole.
I was going to buy some shallow internal top hats but I didn't like the fact they wobbled around quite a lot, it's the depth of the mount that keeps the pole nice and upright.
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Originally posted by jammin75 jammin75 wrote:

Originally posted by Dub Specialist Sound Dub Specialist Sound wrote:

Classic case of drapes absorbing the bass

ie bit like to much wadding in speaker boxs imho

dont belive all that drape bizzness tbh


its all about the drapes LOL  the venue we used to do our nites in had drapes inside apparantly to keep the sound in  nuff times had noise problems cuz of shaking up the car park , hotel  upstairs the whole buildin all the windows in the houses on  the  next road LOL  i dont know wot the drapes were doin !!  LOL


They had a Sentry SPL monitor in there, even though the bass wasn't as good as usual, I could still easily go into the red and risk having my power cut off! (Before anyone asks, there wasn't any more available sockets to bypass the sentry not that I would do that! )
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Originally posted by cookie-dj cookie-dj wrote:

Originally posted by jammin75 jammin75 wrote:

Originally posted by Dub Specialist Sound Dub Specialist Sound wrote:

Classic case of drapes absorbing the bass

ie bit like to much wadding in speaker boxs imho

dont belive all that drape bizzness tbh


its all about the drapes LOL  the venue we used to do our nites in had drapes inside apparantly to keep the sound in  nuff times had noise problems cuz of shaking up the car park , hotel  upstairs the whole buildin all the windows in the houses on  the  next road LOL  i dont know wot the drapes were doin !!  LOL


They had a Sentry SPL monitor in there, even though the bass wasn't as good as usual, I could still easily go into the red and risk having my power cut off! (Before anyone asks, there wasn't any more available sockets to bypass the sentry not that I would do that! )



u can go rite in to the red i tripped one twice on a new years eve party !!  i always bypass them if poss one of my subs runnin on a quarter of a tank used to trip one !!  LOL


Edited by jammin75 - 13 September 2017 at 9:27pm
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