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KidCreole 
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 Posted: 25 November 2014 at 6:01pm |
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He was copying Outline. And we all know how they sound😉
Edited by KidCreole - 25 November 2014 at 6:26pm
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Mykey Wattco
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bass*en*mass
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Posted: 25 November 2014 at 5:59pm |
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No polar plots of axis, thats true and a shame, graph on axis is available, dedicated drivers aswell but wait, these are too expensive for you arent they? Please stick to truth and honesty!
You mean the russian guy promoting his copies of almost anything few years back? :)
Excellent skills, questionable ethics, not able to export, have asked him in russian previously...
If these horns are too expensive for you or your customers - yes, get over it and get happy with what you can achieve within budget, stealing a next mans work by blatantly copying it still remains very questionable imo.
Specially in the so called roots scene who should know better than that ;)
(which is what upsets me the most tbh)
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KidCreole
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Posted: 25 November 2014 at 5:58pm |
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I don't think you understand what we are trying to say. Lets say I did want proper money, like I'm a brand seller. I would now want 11,000 per piece. At my price I'm covering labour and materials, not even rent included. Guys that are breaking the law by copying, are earning the same. Please respect us as designer/builders. We are already giving great deals.
Edited by KidCreole - 25 November 2014 at 5:59pm
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Mykey Wattco
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levyte357-
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Posted: 25 November 2014 at 5:44pm |
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I don't know of any fibre glass horn sellers who have published plots for their horns, with a range of drivers, or specific drivers.
There was a dude on here while ago, who was selling mid horns "similar" to Turbo 12s, don't know where he's gone.
Is pretty simple really, if the 12" Fibre Glass horns are too expensive, people will buy traditional cabs, or get Turbo/FK1/EAW copies.
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Global Depopulation - Alive and Killing.
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bass*en*mass
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Posted: 25 November 2014 at 5:43pm |
 yeah sure tweet.. ;)
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Tweeter_Box
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Posted: 25 November 2014 at 5:34pm |
 bass*en*mass wrote:
Same goes for you tweet, please upload a list of available 12" phase bunged horns on here incl. prices! I dont know of many available.. ;)
- type of horn+pic
- materials used
- specs, at least a graph on axis
- price incl. delivery
- discounts for trade volumes
Curious to see realistic "contenders"!
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Www.google.com. ;)
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bass*en*mass
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Posted: 25 November 2014 at 5:33pm |
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TSG horns:
120-160€ + 50€ shipping each + import duty (upto 17%?) + VAT 20% incl. shipping costs afaik
specs to be taken with a pinch of salt, quality does seem to be nowhere near the limmers imo
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bass*en*mass
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Posted: 25 November 2014 at 5:15pm |
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For example:
limmer 308 - 490€ brut
(boxed and loaded 2300€ brut)
limmer 312 - 325€ brut
both only play 180ish Hz up so quite harder to find a kick bin suitable without honking imo
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MarjanM
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Posted: 25 November 2014 at 5:04pm |
Yes please list which horn you can get for 150 pounds.
Your comment on your cheapo company selling 6000 horns for 50 pounds. Who is selling horns for 50 pounds? Can i get 24 please asap.
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Marjan Milosevic
MM-Acoustics
www.mm-acoustics.com
https://www.facebook.com/pages/MM-Acoustics/608901282527713
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bass*en*mass
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Posted: 25 November 2014 at 5:00pm |
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Same goes for you tweet, please upload a list of available 12" phase bunged horns on here incl. prices! I dont know of many available.. ;)
- type of horn+pic
- materials used
- specs, at least a graph on axis
- price incl. delivery
- discounts for trade volumes
Curious to see realistic "contenders"!
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Tweeter_Box
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Posted: 25 November 2014 at 4:43pm |
bass*en*mass wrote:
value for money has nothing to do with the price itself, cheap tat stays cheap tat, no matter how cheap it is..! A coaxial horn for less than 150quid will most definately have not a lot of qualities other than beeing cheap... same goes for most of "his products".. not really worth the money imo
but yeah, horses for courses :)
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value for money has everything to do with it for the guys buying, especially the guys who dont drive bentlys lets look at it another way, a cheapo company makes the horns for £50 and sells 6000 of them per year, mr im too good to respond to you makes them for £500 ans sells 1 per year, whos winning ...?
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Tweeter_Box
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Posted: 25 November 2014 at 4:26pm |
KidCreole wrote:
OK, time to sort out the men from the boyz
what would you expect to pay for such an item?
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id be offering approx 150-200 per mould (depending on specs and compatibilty), this wouldnt be a one of order but more of a trade price for the 2way mid/tops that i regularly build and sell BUT from what i can see, it doesnt seem like you want to sell any  or just not interested & alot of negativity, ive no idea what the cost would be to make them so feel free to enlighten me, but my offer is based on whats available that look similar here in the UK, Europe and USA
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The Fibre Glass 12" Mid Horn Thread