There's a new kid in town: Vision Acoustics

Odd looking speakers, but in the right place I think they would look cool. Those DJ monitors remind me of operating theatre lights! I'd be interested to hear some for sure.

allow me to expand my whining ginger crap

toastyghost wrote: Big-G wrote: OllieMan wrote: mk2_ginger_biscuit69 wrote: the floor monitors look like fans (and completely impractical in terms of durability/not falling over mid gig?) - well.... they do the DJ extreme is just a circular version of the bose 802 ...... is there a benefit/need appart from being visually different to 'the norm'? Surely they will introduce comb filtering and lack the depth and performance of a single modern high efficiency neo driver club stack blank.... just an observation of the website columns wierd.... fair play, that was a crap unconstructive ramble Conicle dispersion is a terrible idea in stage monitors, need the horizontal dispersion because unless artists are static (which most arnt) they will move in and out of the dispersion field .... I assume it will be a much wider dispersion than you have stated as you get out of a coax driver now you have provided the extra info. Also not a single real image, just CAD renders. No real specifications with info (hard to achieve when they dont exist i suppose) ..... again a simple observation Website needs a rethink too, navigation is a bit pants, too fancy .... my own opinion, i dont like flashy stuff on websites which are info sites, its like cars with tons of gadgets and buttons when all you want to do is drive and stick on the radio without tuning into sputnik satelite sorry man but thats my honest opinion ....... hopefully i made myself a bit clearer, tried to be constructive! Ginge, I see you on here alot, slagging other people efforts off!  Could you please post a link to the speakers you've designed/ built ..... no, im an end user Exactly what i was thinking. It's a stupid argument though. Engineers 'drive' a rig, but not necessarily build and design them - the same could be said of touring car racers, but would you ask somebody who didn't like the latest vehicle because it had poor traction control what touring cars they've designed lately? An active, well versed user is generally going to give you a far more relevant than a manufacturer/designer.

I work on the 'shop floor' so to speak, im the one moving the stuff, rigging it, maintaining it, running it, what it looks like come 2nd to practicality above, and often sound quality can come below the above points. The bose 802 may not be great, but it was reliable riggable useable waterproof robust etc etc, hence popular.

Im sorry to be a gumpy bastard, im an upfront person, i will give my opinion out straight and wont back down...... if thats what i think thats what i say. Sod this political correctiveness. If you'd rather i tiptoed carefully around what i say like a politician dont read what i say. I mean no personal offence to anyone and ignore comments from the pathetic who try and get at me. If you knew me in person then you would understand, i get along with many members ive met personally even if i have turned around and told them their rig sounded crap - ive helped them to improve on it to the possitive reaction of others, so cant be that wrong.


Edited by mk2_ginger_biscuit69 - 25 November 2010 at 1:28am

toastyghost wrote: I was arguing for your right to your opinions there you ginger bastard, even if I don't agree with them totally my point was that saying 'show us what you've made then' to somebody who offers criticism is a weak argument and defence.

haha yeah i realised this, wasnt having a go at you, just came as part of the quote and like what u said so kept it there

ive been on this forum for the best part of 5years now, come a long way since then and know the general way of how this place works. Always going to disagree with some personalities but feck em, for me it seems they are bitter old industry clingons and ageing hippys!!

May have noticed i havnt referred to anything like 'how they would sound', as i havnt heard them, merely pointing out the obvious from my way of seeing it.


Edited by mk2_ginger_biscuit69 - 25 November 2010 at 2:21am

I think its more of a "stop being such a jerk" than a "your opinion doesnt matter"

and also an observation that he mainly says negative things for dramatic effect.

Your opinion is not based on any research but only on the first things what you think about it. Saying that the DJ monitor is a Bose 802 with comb filtering without knowing what components and wich X-over frequenties we used, hell you're good!. I'm sorry but we developed all Vision Acoustics products for people who looks further than only the conventional black boxes and not for conservative people like you. It's no problem that you're a gumpy bastard but I want to give the advise to do more research before you give your opinion.

Perhaps you should put more technical info on your site then?

MusicXtra wrote: On the site we're builing a second layer with more technical information. But, is it really important to know wich X-over frequentys we used? About the DJ-Xtreme: We used this configuration to create as much as possible cancellation in the rest of the area for the low-mid frequenties. That in combination with the 45° conical dispersion of the hf driver (it's the same driver as in the column and the 210 line array so that the DJ will have the same sound quality) give you maximum power on a very small spot so that it won't bother the FOH sound when a DJ wants an extreme monitor SPL.

Depends, does it have an inbuilt active crossover? a passive one? does it have an external controller?

I can't see any technical info saying how the system is run, what amps you use, which I would consider quite important if you are running this rig. All you need is a link to a data sheet of some sort to keep the engineers happy. You will find most of your competition put very specific technical details on their websites.

example: http://www.turbosound.com/product/LIVE-SOUND/Aspect


Edited by lgosdset - 25 November 2010 at 11:18am