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    Posted: 24 April 2023 at 10:24pm
This seems to be a very similar layout to Ricci's other design, the SKRAM.

I'm toying with the idea of designing something of a similar nature, and have been considering attempting a larger double 15" loaded design following the design principles of the skram.

I'm not too experienced in cabinet design, so would appreciate any input.

In my head this could be more cost effective power density, and potentially higher sensitivity? Or is this a silly goose to chase...

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2,6m seems doable with those dimensions.
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Originally posted by MarjanM MarjanM wrote:

That Seeburg box looks like the old Martin Audio ported horns.

Which Martin model do you refer to? I'm not aware of any similar design.
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That Seeburg box looks like the old Martin Audio ported horns.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote bob4 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 November 2021 at 4:29pm
Originally posted by smitske96 smitske96 wrote:

Am I correct in thinking that they tune the BR port high and the horn low? 

Isnt that very unlikely, since you need lab horn size for real 30 hz horn loading (in multiples of four!!)

I would have guessed the reverse Confused


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Yes, but it even has a similar/higher sensitivity @50Hz than for example a BC218.
According to the measured response peak sensitivity is around 111/112dB @+-150Hz, which does fall out of the desired bandwidth but still is pretty high.

If I may ask, which design are you talking about regarding the vent also tapping in the horn mouth?
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Originally posted by smitske96 smitske96 wrote:

Am I correct in thinking that they tune the BR port high and the horn low? 
In all other quick sims, I can not reach such 2,83V sensitivity figures.


I would treat the Seeburg as a variant of tapped horn, rather than a rear ported horn. It’s very dark in the renders, but I have a feeling that the driver ‘vent’ also opens into the horn mouth based on a similar design I saw elsewhere.

Also that’s the peak sensitivity value in the specs. Not the average.

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Am I correct in thinking that they tune the BR port high and the horn low? 
In all other quick sims, I can not reach such 2,83V sensitivity figures.
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Kevin, we would like to build your ported horn, any chance of getting a set of plans? 

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I cant install Hornresp on my machine (admin issues) can anyone speculate these changes please?

1) larger chamber all else the same
2) larger chamber and horn extended through 90 degrees (over the port exits) and along width of box. Assume ports are relocated + ignore external dims for now. 
3) Same as above but with chamber remaining the same.

Asking a lot I know - until lockdown is over I can't jump on a buddies laptop to try myself. 

Not asking for sims just interested in bouncing ideas around.

TIA


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Would love to have a go at this mate!

... although slightly lower corner at 27 Hz would have been perfection Wink
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